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Have them ride each bike as well as they can and make a chart with the laptimes.
Opinions and feelings about the bikes mean little. Real world numbers are what matters.
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All the other bikes must be slow because they don’t have energy drink sponsors.
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Furthermore I find it very funny that no more actual track times are being shown???
Back in its day track times showed me everything I needed to know about these bikes. Problem for these magazine companies was that they couldn't explain the fact the last place bike would always have the fastest lap times for almost every individual rider.
In real world racing and weekender rider alike, suspension and chassis is always the single most important part to a motor driven vehicle. Explain how the Suzuki, the best handling bikes for the past 20 years seems to get the short end of the stick each and every year?
Could be worse, they could be the Fox news of the sport.
Dependability is nice to also read about, but really only MXA touches on that.
You need the retro 80s gear to match.
Follow the leader, he's on a Honda! Wait, is that too gender specific?
Like bro, no shit. Most at my local track don't even know where their sag is at, or what effect compression and rebound do, let alone ever play with it.
I dont get it...like your Honda is so much better than the past bike, but you still asume a new RMZ is going to be a magic bike?
You rarely read of test bikes having catastrophic failures and if they did the OEMs will be there in a hot minute with a back up bike if it isn't already sitting in the van. A catastrophic failure should put that bike out of a shootout because in real world ownership you would be without a bike for what, 2 weeks minimum? More likely 2-4 months. And then where is your confidence on that bike or brand?
Pit Row
I find the shoot-outs useful, when I read all of them, and look for the commonalities. I realize it sounds like work, and most Vitards would rather complain than read and comprehend, but thats the norm around here.
Right now we have the most and best shootouts we have ever had, and with video and sometimes before the bikes are even able to be purchased. Somehow people still arent happy. I remember when it wasnt this good.
Peace out.
yes
So much of the shoot out is about how the bike feels and very little numbers are involved.
I know in F1 racing the driver gives almost no feedback all adjustments to the car are based on segment times, lap times and data collection.
I would like to see some testing like the pros do with data collection, lap times, and segment times. I understand the track changes but if you only have 6 bikes on the track and you take the fastest lap from every level of rider and find the bike that consistently ran the fastest lap per rider on multiple different days at different tracks how can any one argue with that.
Hell, most of the guys on here could go faster if they just cut out one micky d's meal a week and jogged for a couple hours per week instead of buying 1500 exhaust systems and shiny new gear every month.
I say this because I'm assuming you are referencing Jeff Walker's video where he posted one lap on all 6 bikes. Jeff Walker has spent a lot of time on a Honda. You can gather that from his videos. If anything, I would take a second a lap faster as his comfort-ability with the brand more than the bike being that much better than the others.
Doesn't mean you can't draw some conclusions from it, though.
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