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No, all that money came from us, and our kids, and their kids. The curve is rapidly approaching and the train is still full steam ahead.
Well yeah the feds don’t make anything so they have to take it all from us first I’m with you there. It’s ugly I know that much.
There's a 2023 FC 450 Heritage Edition at Ocean County Powersports, a large NJ retailer, listed for $7,299 (down from $11,849). It's refreshing (albeit a possibly depressing sign for the economy) to see leftover bikes at all, let alone for reasonable prices. On the other hand, the 350xcf and color variants, are still tough to come by... sigh.
PPP money was most of it I think. Do you know a guy who somehow did really well during the pandemic and ended up with a bunch of new toys? Chances are you’ll find his business listed here:
https://www.federalpay.org/paycheck-protection-program
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Because R&D money is tax deductible.
That’s great and all but you can’t tell me Kawasaki was planning on spending that R&D money which without a doubt costs more than it did when they developed the 2019, and then almost immediately start discounting their flagship model while still heavily discounting their remaining old model inventory. It’s not a good sign of the times for future sales that’s for sure.
So is giving to charity. Does that mean you’re going to give all of your income to charity so that you don’t have to pay the taxes on that income?
Of course not. And companies don’t operate like that either.
Liberals like to blame all of the their failed policies on corporate greed.
You can’t continually print money and not expect to get ravaged by inflation.
Correct, but its a major factor when billion dollar companies are allocating monies to R&D. It's tax deductible and in some cases they can even get Government grants to pay for the R&D.
People that use the words liberal/conservative as pejoratives are being used as pawns in someone else's game. Liberal means you're open to trying new things. Conservative means to make things last. Every generation of new technology throughout history in agriculture is using liberal ideas to conserve. The freedom to create/use these new technologies is using conservative ideas to be liberal. There is no conflict with these two ideologies, until someone with a tofu brain is told that they conflict.
I sold my 2018 FC350 a few months ago for $4800 after being listed for months. It was your typical vet owned ride: super-maintained, lots of effective upgrades (and some bling), not thrashed. Then I bought a 22 FC250 with 17 hours for $6000. Had an FMF pipe, upgraded chain/sprockets, and a skid plate already on it. Market is flooded and has been for months now. I plan to sell my toyhauler this summer and I know I'll get next to nothing for it, but I have 10 years of great memories at the track with my kids, so I'm ok with that.
Now in the Yamaha RD 2 stroke world, we are peaking on pricing. I just sold 2, 77 RD400s that I restored for over $10,000 a pop. I have others I am working on that will go for that or more. My Daytona is a $20k bike now. The demographic for these are old guys like me, that are financially secure and want to regain a piece of their youth.
The very definition of inflation is an expansion in the money supply. The money supply was expanded by almost 40% during the scamdemic, thus making the value of the money substantially less. Keep in mind that the USSA is on a debt based monetary system, a Ponzi scheme, and it necessitates an ever larger increase in the money supply. And the Federal Reserve is a private bank and the cause of almost all issues in the world.
Won't be long until an ounce of gold buys a new dirt bike, keep stacking!
I look on market occasionally. A whole lot of 20-1-2 bikes with less than 20 hours on them. The sort that look like new riders got into the sport. Rode a few times. Been paying on their overpriced bike. And want double of what it will realistically sell for. Friend just got a 21 300 xc with two hours on it for $4500. He was the only buyer to show up with their 7000 listing.
That's the narrative they put forward saying the tax payer got all this free money, when it's the banks, corporations and pharma got the big money.
At the same time, inflation was driven by price gouging, not a lack of supply.
Always the same, blame the people and transfer their wealth.
As long as we all keep fighting amongst ourselves, our intrinsic wealth will decline.
You heard correctly..... The Covid boom is long gone, and companies are seeing this now that inventory has slowly crept back up on anything powersports related. A good friend of mine owns an RV lot, said the market is swamped with campers that were rarely used, purchased during Covid, and the idiots that bought them would sign the papers on just about anything when inventory was getting dried up quick. Now that the madness has calmed down, alot of these people bought more RV than they had room to store, so paying to use a storage facility, added with lack of use, has caused them to unload these at huge losses to them financially. He swears it is a buyers market for used RV's right now, at least here in our area. I'm guessing it is the same for bikes, boats, etc.... just specualting.
You can't gouge pricing if the supply is adequate. When the supply is inadequate, you get either scarcity or price increases, or both.
People don't have to be millionaires to feel like they suddenly have discretionary spending. And buying a dirt bike isn't buying a Ferrari. Some stimulus money for a payment you wouldn't have had otherwise.
The industry I work in, we all expected the COVID slowdown to slow demand. Our suppliers expected it and stopped their hiring plans or let people go. When we were wrong, we payed expediting fees for everything. I don't think it is "gouging" to expect to have to pay more for the same thing when I ask a supplier to work overtime and weekends for a recovery plan to meet our customers unexpected demand. I'm thankful they are willing to work and do the job.
As supply is recovered, are some people still gouging? Yes, they try. But as the prices come down (at least for dirtbikes) it shows that there is oversupply. Maybe I'll get a spare CR500 for parts if a year or so.
I haven’t watched the new bike market but casually check the used bikes and they definitely came down a lot. It was lunacy a couple years ago but now I can get a clean 2007 crf80 for $1300. Stuff like that was well over $2000 a couple years ago.
A lot of this. I see kids at the track who have roached out 3-4yr old bikes with 100+ hours on them that they can't rid of because they took out a 5 year loan on a dirt bike. Absolutely dumb. The dealership won't take them on a trade and they can't sell them because they still owe money. That's a new bike sale gone right there and a reason why new bikes are sitting on showroom floors.
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Have a '22 KX250, which I got a absolutely great deal on. Other than chain, sprockets, tires, the only part I've had to replace ( I went aftermarket) is the chain guide. I haven't had any reliability issues and its been bulletproof to this point.
The market is correcting and going back to normal. How soon everyone forgets what it was like pre-covid. You could pretty much walk into your dealer at any time of the year and they had inventory. You could pick up your new bike with a discount and go home a happy camper. Covid hits and the dealers are wiped out. Everything is pre-sold. Provide a deposit and wait. Prices are retail +++ and with no discounts. If you want the bike you're going to pay what the dealer is asking or the next guy will. That was not normal or sustainable. Now that dealers have inventory again and prices are being discounted, a panic sets in. I see nothing to panic about. You can finally get a discount on an in stock dirt bike and not have to wait months to get it.
How many rides are you getting on a chain slider (swingarm pad)? If I remember correctly the swingarm was taller than the front sprocket so I'd get maybe 2-3hours before needing to replace.
The longest back order was the fuel pump O-ring, which started leaking <10h and was backordered for 2+ months.
The threads pulled out of one of the air filter access bolts maybe the 2nd or 3rd time. I was able to use a longer bolt with a nut on the back, but I remember thinking the subframe must be made out of cheese. I later found out the engine cases are made out of rice paper.
Handlebars would twist in a stiff breeze.
I never did get the clutch to fully engage. I got used to it while riding but couldn't start it in gear and with the clutch lever to the bar if I gave it any throttle it would creep like Joe Biden towards a baby.
Just rode Oak Hill after rain, & it was heavy motor loading sandy mud. Couldn't keep the chain or guide free. I ride in pretty rough TX sandy loam. Easily getting 10 hrs out of the guide pad. The swingarm rub plate even more than that. Weird you've had those issues with yours to me. My clutch is actually still stock and I haven't even replace the plates yet. I do change the filter and oil every other ride though, and I run synthetic oil. No complaints so far
This is exactly correct, when the denominator increases (aka money is created), then in order to maintain balance the numerator (aka the cost of goods) must increase. This is know as currency debasement, and the only reason we don't see the US dollar absolutely collapsing on a global scale is because every other major economic power followed the exact same playbook and devalued their currency at a similar rate. These fucks devalue your money, then have the audacity to ask you to "pay your fair share" in taxes on top of stealing your wealth out from under you, if they're going to finance their debt by devaluing currency we should be paying zero taxes at all.
Must be some broke whinin mother effers here. My 401K has done $74k ytd. Thats almost a grand per business day, plus my salary. I'm doing pretty good. Sorry, not sorry
I just sold my ‘21 450 to my brother for $5200 after listing it at $5650 and getting zero interest. Locally, there’s another ‘21 450, all stock, that’s been at $4500 for a month now. My buddy has a ‘21 250 with 26 hours listed for $4300 and can’t sell it. Super clean. Full PC exhaust. Nobody will even offer $4000.
$200 shop fee plus sales tax is all I paid on my ‘24 KX 450. They upped the rebate from $1200 to $2000 on the 450 the day after I picked mine up.
In politics that is not those words definition.
If you factor in real inflation your 401k results may disappoint you.
Largely what you just described sounds like the US government.
Because everyone who bought them at MSRP the last couple years don’t understand you can typically walk into an RV dealer and get around 20% off without much haggling. I bought a toy hauler (pre covid) for $17k OTD when the MSRP WAS $31k. I sold it during covid for $19k.
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