How many top guys have TUE'S For adderall?

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Timo wrote:
I race 2 hour hare scrambles and don't need my meds for racing because it's for making less enjoyable tasks more rewarding. I don't have issues...

I race 2 hour hare scrambles and don't need my meds for racing because it's for making less enjoyable tasks more rewarding. I don't have issues racing, fixing complex issues, or doing something I'm interested in. My meds help with conversations in crowded rooms, paperwork, and keeping the intrusive thoughts from popping up and making me think about driving off a bridge. I also don't have the feeling issue that a previous person posted, once I start I can hyper focus on the racing and forget about how uncomfortable riding gear is, but everyone's ADHD is similar but also unique. 

If you don't have ADHD you won't benefit from stimulants. You will feel like it's helping, but all it does is excite the reward mechanism in your brain so it's not actually making you focus more. If you take a recreational dose it will hamper your performance because you will have bad cotton mouth and an elevated heart rate before you even start racing. 

I would make an observation that most of us moto people probably have one form of nuro divergent disorder or another because if we didn't we'd not be interested in high adrenaline activities.

Leemur891 wrote:

Your last comment hit the nail on the head 

100% I am definitely autistic and retarded. 

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2/2/2026 11:55am
Leemur891 wrote:

Ffs what year is it?

soresammy wrote:
It's 2026. We have our elite racers competing into their 30's, not retiring at 26-27 on top of the sport for fear of testing  "dirty" back...

It's 2026. We have our elite racers competing into their 30's, not retiring at 26-27 on top of the sport for fear of testing  "dirty" back then. 

AVL28 wrote:
They’re not competing into their 30s now because lack of fear of testing “dirty”. This current crop of top riders are the wave of the post-RC...

They’re not competing into their 30s now because lack of fear of testing “dirty”. This current crop of top riders are the wave of the post-RC era where fitness and wellness takes a forefront to their training regiment for their entire careers. These guys are still in top shape into their 30s, just look at Eli. No different than Tom Brady competing until he was 45, these guys are taking body science to a new level now.


Back in the day dudes were mostly running on talent, their off-track time was way less intense and many just partied in their free time. So when they hit their mid-late 20s they physically couldn’t keep up with the young guys anymore. It had nothing to do with avoiding “testing dirty”.

What do you think body science is? 

 Longevity through modern science is a great thing. 

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2/2/2026 11:58am
truck wrote:
How many guys have TUE for synthroid? Thyroid issues are virtually nonexistent in young healthy males but lot of riders seem to think theirs is a...

How many guys have TUE for synthroid? Thyroid issues are virtually nonexistent in young healthy males but lot of riders seem to think theirs is a problem....... I wonder how many of them even realize they're being put on PED? The way they openly talk about it, I bet not many. 

We can also talk about Clomid if you’d like, that’s pretty well used. 

 There is a lot of ways to cheat the test that guys are doing. 

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2/2/2026 12:00pm
truck wrote:
How many guys have TUE for synthroid? Thyroid issues are virtually nonexistent in young healthy males but lot of riders seem to think theirs is a...

How many guys have TUE for synthroid? Thyroid issues are virtually nonexistent in young healthy males but lot of riders seem to think theirs is a problem....... I wonder how many of them even realize they're being put on PED? The way they openly talk about it, I bet not many. 

soresammy wrote:
Thank you. Someone has a grasp on reality. Whether it's T 3 or T 4, does that make it a ped because you can maintain your...

Thank you. Someone has a grasp on reality. Whether it's T 3 or T 4, does that make it a ped because you can maintain your body weight 30lbs less than without it? Imagine taking 30 lbs off thier bikes. I started this thread to see how many people actually have an idea what goes on. 

You are barking up the wrong tree if you want to talk about ped abuse in our sport. 

 Motocross fans just bury their heads in sand and refuse to see the obvious because they don’t want to believe their hero is getting help. 

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2/2/2026 1:02pm
soresammy wrote:
It's 2026. We have our elite racers competing into their 30's, not retiring at 26-27 on top of the sport for fear of testing  "dirty" back...

It's 2026. We have our elite racers competing into their 30's, not retiring at 26-27 on top of the sport for fear of testing  "dirty" back then. 

AVL28 wrote:
They’re not competing into their 30s now because lack of fear of testing “dirty”. This current crop of top riders are the wave of the post-RC...

They’re not competing into their 30s now because lack of fear of testing “dirty”. This current crop of top riders are the wave of the post-RC era where fitness and wellness takes a forefront to their training regiment for their entire careers. These guys are still in top shape into their 30s, just look at Eli. No different than Tom Brady competing until he was 45, these guys are taking body science to a new level now.


Back in the day dudes were mostly running on talent, their off-track time was way less intense and many just partied in their free time. So when they hit their mid-late 20s they physically couldn’t keep up with the young guys anymore. It had nothing to do with avoiding “testing dirty”.

UpTiTe wrote:

What do you think body science is? 

 Longevity through modern science is a great thing. 

I genuinely cannot tell if you’re agreeing with me or trying to make a counterpoint.

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2/2/2026 1:37pm

Nothing gets the 3 faces of Uptite more wound up then PED use in mx. 🙃

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2/2/2026 1:55pm
davistld01 wrote:
I think Stew said one time that Adderall "slowed the track down" for him instead of coming at him 1000mph...so it was easier for him to...

I think Stew said one time that Adderall "slowed the track down" for him instead of coming at him 1000mph...so it was easier for him to see lines other guys might not notice. If I'm remembering correctly, when he came back to racing after the ban, and without Adderall, he crashed more than a few times in situations that were totally off character for him. 

Do some of you guys here that do race while taking prescription Adderall have the same experience?

Never took it at the MX track.... Only tried it once in my dumb(er) college kid days while snowboarding. What you're describing is exactly what I felt that day on the mountain. Everything slowed down and I felt like I could read the snow and react faster. I remember thinking to myself that it would have been like cheating for me at the track.

And then I felt like shit that night for obvious reasons and never tried it again. I'm sure everyone is different, but the in-the-moment advantages for me in that situation were noticeable. 

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2/2/2026 1:57pm

Who cares?  No, they are not going to publish a list of medications a rider is taking.  

soresammy wrote:

Weird... I thought riders personal info would be "published" ... 👀 This place is great. Lol

Never heard of HIPAA?  Medical records are a bit different than what Monster girl they are dating

Sometimes I wonder about Hippa laws.  Everyone, including the government,  seemed to bypass those laws 4 to 5 yeats ago.  

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2/2/2026 2:32pm
AVL28 wrote:
They’re not competing into their 30s now because lack of fear of testing “dirty”. This current crop of top riders are the wave of the post-RC...

They’re not competing into their 30s now because lack of fear of testing “dirty”. This current crop of top riders are the wave of the post-RC era where fitness and wellness takes a forefront to their training regiment for their entire careers. These guys are still in top shape into their 30s, just look at Eli. No different than Tom Brady competing until he was 45, these guys are taking body science to a new level now.


Back in the day dudes were mostly running on talent, their off-track time was way less intense and many just partied in their free time. So when they hit their mid-late 20s they physically couldn’t keep up with the young guys anymore. It had nothing to do with avoiding “testing dirty”.

UpTiTe wrote:

What do you think body science is? 

 Longevity through modern science is a great thing. 

AVL28 wrote:

I genuinely cannot tell if you’re agreeing with me or trying to make a counterpoint.

I’m agreeing with you that science is the secret to their longevity, but I’m saying it’s probably not the science you think it is.  

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2/2/2026 2:36pm

Nothing gets the 3 faces of Uptite more wound up then PED use in mx. 🙃

PED use doesn’t get me wound up, the naivety of people does. 

 A lot of guys use em, nobody want to believe it. 

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Never heard of HIPAA?  Medical records are a bit different than what Monster girl they are dating

eeazye wrote:
You know, thank you for bringing this up, as I’ve always wondered; where are all the HIPAA protections when an athlete pops dirty? I kind of get...

You know, thank you for bringing this up, as I’ve always wondered; where are all the HIPAA protections when an athlete pops dirty? 

I kind of get if it’s an illegal substance, but what about prescription only stuff, and further if the athlete has a valid prescription, but the sanctioning body forbids its use?

It’s pretty much blasted through the official communication from sanctioning bodies what the violation was and the specific chemical(s) that are the problem. Seems a bit of a double standard?

Or is it the athletes agree to have their transgressions broadcast to the world in order to compete in a given series?

kylemenz1 wrote:
ADHD medication is pharmaceutical grade meth,  “Amphetamine Salts.”  So if a guy was taking it they would test positive for Meth. That’s why they need an...

ADHD medication is pharmaceutical grade meth,  “Amphetamine Salts.”  So if a guy was taking it they would test positive for Meth. That’s why they need an exemption. 

They would test positive for amphetamine, not meth, in initial screening. Then the sample would go through confirmatory testing, and the medication can be easily distinguished from street level methamphetamine. 

Even if you test positive for a legitimate medication, you still have to prove that you have a valid prescription. 

Happened to me more than once. 

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Non ADD guy here that took adderall for a couple years and had a prescription for it. I used it daily, about 20mg as a service...

Non ADD guy here that took adderall for a couple years and had a prescription for it. I used it daily, about 20mg as a service advisor at a dealership. I found it gave me a lot of energy, motivation and drive. My productivity was sky high, I wasn't hungry until night so never ate anything all day. I lost an easy 20 lbs while eating whatever I wanted for dinner. I never felt it helped me focus, in fact I think it did the opposite. I'd start doing something and notice something else wrong/broken/needed to be done and I'd switch to that. It was what I would describe as cracked out. lol. I never rode or raced on it but I did do some track days in my car. I think it helps somewhat when riding/racing but I would say it would mostly help if you're out of shape/tired and it would be the edge to push through. But for focus, I dont think it would help all that much. And yeah your heart rate would be 200 bpm before the race started lol. 

davistld01 wrote:
I think Stew said one time that Adderall "slowed the track down" for him instead of coming at him 1000mph...so it was easier for him to...

I think Stew said one time that Adderall "slowed the track down" for him instead of coming at him 1000mph...so it was easier for him to see lines other guys might not notice. If I'm remembering correctly, when he came back to racing after the ban, and without Adderall, he crashed more than a few times in situations that were totally off character for him. 

Do some of you guys here that do race while taking prescription Adderall have the same experience?

I always thought that he had a legitimate TUE when he returned to racing. If not, that would have destroyed the story of just not having the paperwork completed or believing that having a prescription was enough. 

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soresammy wrote:

Is this something that's known? 

Are you accusing Deegs?

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I agree with some of the non-admirable things you mentioned.   He gave the first gen reverse engined yz450 a bad rap.   If you read...

I agree with some of the non-admirable things you mentioned.   He gave the first gen reverse engined yz450 a bad rap.   If you read any of the initial tests of that bike, all the mags raved about it.   It had better turning, suspension, felt lighter, more power, ect. than the 2009.    Stewart blamed the bike for his crashes, but in reality it was probably just lapses in concentration, lack of adderall, or bike setup..   FWIW i have a 2010 still, and with some mods - compared to my 2022, I like some things about the 2010 better (but not everything).

I think the main problem James was having with that bike was the shock. Before Yamaha figured out how to route the exhaust, it was basically a shock heater. The bike would work great the first half of the race (or a whole heat race) and then would start changing. 

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2/3/2026 5:27am

While we’re on the subject of peds.  Is there a pill that a vet motorcycle racer could take that will make him faster?  Hopefully a pill without too many bad side effects. 

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2/3/2026 11:59am

Adderall is some scary stuff. I had a girlfriend who would take it and become a different person, like a tweaker. It was scary to watch her check out from reality. I can't believe the stuff is legally prescribed. It seems pretty evil.

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aeffertz wrote:
As someone who has used Adderall recreationally before... It is more likely to make you worse at riding than better if you don't actually need it...

As someone who has used Adderall recreationally before... It is more likely to make you worse at riding than better if you don't actually need it. It is an amphetamine, not a magic brain pill.

EDIT: for the downvoters who disagree, please detail your experiences ripping some Adderall before a moto and how it made you a better rider. 

I have never raced on it, but I have taken it a number of times, and a few times while riding. I definitely can see how it would help. I get so focused on one thing with it, that nothing else matters, or even enters my brain. What was your experience that makes you believe it would be a detriment?

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Moto Nomad wrote:
Adderall is some scary stuff. I had a girlfriend who would take it and become a different person, like a tweaker. It was scary to watch...

Adderall is some scary stuff. I had a girlfriend who would take it and become a different person, like a tweaker. It was scary to watch her check out from reality. I can't believe the stuff is legally prescribed. It seems pretty evil.

Recreational dose or prescription? If her personality is changing on a prescription dose it's too high, or she needs to take a different stimulant like methylphenidate or try one of the non stimulant ADHD medication. Everyone reacts differently to the meds and if one has side affects you need to try a different one. I take generic Adderall XR, an amphetamine, it works great for me. My son gets really grumpy on Adderall, he does way better on methylphenidate. 

The reason it's legal is because it works for most people better than anything else to help with ADHD symptoms. I believe over 75% of people can take either type of stimulant, 20% only one works without bad side effects, and 5% have to take a non stimulant medication. Why doesn't everyone start with a non stimulant you ask? The first 3 months of taking one increases the thoughts of suicide. If you get past the first three months then it goes away for most, but I'll stick with the amphetamine, it's been safely prescribed for ADHD since the 1930's. That's right, ADHD is the most researched and most understood mental disorder, but somehow people think it's not real because some influencer said so and did a little dance on tick-tock...

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2/3/2026 7:20pm

I heard almost all of the Tour de France riders are using PEDs.  You just have to get the latest ones they dont test for yet, right?   Any trainers with bicycle backgrounds id be suspicious of.  So who is that?  Aldon Baker.  Tomac dad.  When theres millions of dollars on the line, people will do anything .  I know everyone thinks that the pros race because they love it.  Fuck no.  They race for the money.  Tomac is motivated by $$$$$

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Tyler D wrote:
never tried addy tbh, though id definitely benefit, but neutropics in the right form and dosage are massive massive advantages. adderall is old. theres other stuff...

never tried addy tbh, though id definitely benefit, but neutropics in the right form and dosage are massive massive advantages. adderall is old. theres other stuff out there now lol like modafinil. 

 

i do endurance sim racing - focus and consistency are everything. keeping yourself in that flow state is hard sometimes if theres not a challenge right in front of you. this is why some guys ride better from the rear.  

 

one day the causes of adhd, which is arguably becoming much more prevalent with each generation, will be blown wide open and nothing will be the same. 

i've been on modinifil for over a year as a experimental treatment for stroke i had in 22'. all i can say is i wish i had this available to me when i was racing in the 90s lmao. provigil is the name brand name i believe.

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2/3/2026 9:08pm
UpTiTe wrote:

PED use doesn’t get me wound up, the naivety of people does. 

 A lot of guys use em, nobody want to believe it. 

How many riders have "Asthma". I'm being serious. Also as someone explained to me at a local ultramarathon. A little thing called micro-dosing EPO and other PEDs when athletes are teenagers to give life long benefits that would be untraceable when they're pros.

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UpTiTe wrote:

What do you think body science is? 

 Longevity through modern science is a great thing. 

AVL28 wrote:

I genuinely cannot tell if you’re agreeing with me or trying to make a counterpoint.

UpTiTe wrote:

I’m agreeing with you that science is the secret to their longevity, but I’m saying it’s probably not the science you think it is.  

Okay Ping...

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gt80rider wrote:
Look at the moran sticking up for street legal meth...  lol.... while technically different... they both do the same thing.... Adderall is effectively gov endorsed street...

Look at the moran sticking up for street legal meth...  lol.... while technically different... they both do the same thing.... Adderall is effectively gov endorsed street legal meth.... sorry to pop your bubble of enslavement.... 

 

You are provng beyond any doubt, that you are stupid. 

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2/4/2026 6:38am
UpTiTe wrote:

PED use doesn’t get me wound up, the naivety of people does. 

 A lot of guys use em, nobody want to believe it. 

LumpDog841 wrote:
How many riders have "Asthma". I'm being serious. Also as someone explained to me at a local ultramarathon. A little thing called micro-dosing EPO and other...

How many riders have "Asthma". I'm being serious. Also as someone explained to me at a local ultramarathon. A little thing called micro-dosing EPO and other PEDs when athletes are teenagers to give life long benefits that would be untraceable when they're pros.

  I know two riders who swear by inhalers, and I know guys who have tried them and said they make no difference.

They’ve figured out that micro dosing is the secret to passing most test, especially testosterone. 

Yes, that’s the new thing, better genetics through science, it’s crazy what technology is teaching them.  

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2/4/2026 7:14am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2026 7:29am
aeffertz wrote:
As someone who has used Adderall recreationally before... It is more likely to make you worse at riding than better if you don't actually need it...

As someone who has used Adderall recreationally before... It is more likely to make you worse at riding than better if you don't actually need it. It is an amphetamine, not a magic brain pill.

EDIT: for the downvoters who disagree, please detail your experiences ripping some Adderall before a moto and how it made you a better rider. 

Jkawi wrote:
I have never raced on it, but I have taken it a number of times, and a few times while riding. I definitely can see how...

I have never raced on it, but I have taken it a number of times, and a few times while riding. I definitely can see how it would help. I get so focused on one thing with it, that nothing else matters, or even enters my brain. What was your experience that makes you believe it would be a detriment?

For me, there is two sides to the coin. It could make me hyper focused and give me the advantages that come with that but on the other end, it could make me obsess over something that puts me at a disadvantage. Maybe I'd obsess over my form, or a kicker on a jump, etc. Or maybe I get short of breath or feel arm pump coming on. Being hyper focused on that could make the situation worse.

It can basically be a distraction, kinda like someone said earlier, I think they said they worked at a parts counter. Maybe they're fulfilling orders, killing it and doing better than any other day but then they notice the parts arent as organized as they could be, and then they can't stop thinking about that which causes them to not fulfill orders as fast then the next thing you know the parts are sprawled out on the table and they are organizing parts that really didn't need organized, at least not at that time.

I think a lot has to do with if you actually have add. If you have add, I have heard it helps you stay on track and focus on the task at hand. If you don't have add, it can basically give you add. 

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2/4/2026 7:25am
Moto Nomad wrote:
Adderall is some scary stuff. I had a girlfriend who would take it and become a different person, like a tweaker. It was scary to watch...

Adderall is some scary stuff. I had a girlfriend who would take it and become a different person, like a tweaker. It was scary to watch her check out from reality. I can't believe the stuff is legally prescribed. It seems pretty evil.

Timo wrote:
Recreational dose or prescription? If her personality is changing on a prescription dose it's too high, or she needs to take a different stimulant like methylphenidate...

Recreational dose or prescription? If her personality is changing on a prescription dose it's too high, or she needs to take a different stimulant like methylphenidate or try one of the non stimulant ADHD medication. Everyone reacts differently to the meds and if one has side affects you need to try a different one. I take generic Adderall XR, an amphetamine, it works great for me. My son gets really grumpy on Adderall, he does way better on methylphenidate. 

The reason it's legal is because it works for most people better than anything else to help with ADHD symptoms. I believe over 75% of people can take either type of stimulant, 20% only one works without bad side effects, and 5% have to take a non stimulant medication. Why doesn't everyone start with a non stimulant you ask? The first 3 months of taking one increases the thoughts of suicide. If you get past the first three months then it goes away for most, but I'll stick with the amphetamine, it's been safely prescribed for ADHD since the 1930's. That's right, ADHD is the most researched and most understood mental disorder, but somehow people think it's not real because some influencer said so and did a little dance on tick-tock...

I take the XR too. Every once in awhile I'll ask my doctor about the long term side effects of Adderall because I have been concerned about long term side effects and I hate having to rely on a medicine because to me, it's like my coffee in the morning. I don't drink coffee but like those who do, if you don't have your coffee, you may be less motivated that day or tired. Without Adderall, I feel the exact same way and have become dependant on it. However, I don't abuse it, and for over fifteen years, have never asked for an increase dose.

My doctor told me not to worry and said essentially the same thing you said - that it's been safely prescribed for adhd for a very long time and unless someone is abusing it, it is a very safe medication and people don't come in sick or dying because of Adderall. 

With that said, I love how it makes me feel but hate that I've become dependant. If I don't have it for a couple days, I am worthless for the most part. 

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I take 40mg Vyvanse - when I need it. I am also 55yrs old and never even took ADHD meds until I was 34 or 35. It was magic, suddenly I could get long periods of paperwork done and dial into whatever I was doing. I can tell by my mental state and by the workload I need to accomplish at work. Some days I do not need it. I do not like riding on it. 

I am glad I did NOT take it when I was younger. Kids need to engage that energy, use it. Too many get it prescribed now, it is WAY over used in the younger crowd.

 

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2/4/2026 8:13am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2026 8:13am

Little side note: your average doctor is like a parts changing dealership mechanic. Dont go thinking he is Mitch Payton or Brad Hoffman.

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UpTiTe wrote:

PED use doesn’t get me wound up, the naivety of people does. 

 A lot of guys use em, nobody want to believe it. 

LumpDog841 wrote:
How many riders have "Asthma". I'm being serious. Also as someone explained to me at a local ultramarathon. A little thing called micro-dosing EPO and other...

How many riders have "Asthma". I'm being serious. Also as someone explained to me at a local ultramarathon. A little thing called micro-dosing EPO and other PEDs when athletes are teenagers to give life long benefits that would be untraceable when they're pros.

UpTiTe wrote:
  I know two riders who swear by inhalers, and I know guys who have tried them and said they make no difference.They’ve figured out that...

  I know two riders who swear by inhalers, and I know guys who have tried them and said they make no difference.

They’ve figured out that micro dosing is the secret to passing most test, especially testosterone. 

Yes, that’s the new thing, better genetics through science, it’s crazy what technology is teaching them.  

How many of you 3 know the 2 riders? Or do 2 of you each know 1 and the 3rd heard it makes no difference? 

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