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My 94' RM80 was faster than that 93' YZ. They were terrible.
worst
88 and 97 cr 250
slowest
98 cr 125
2005 kx 250 2stroke. Handled great until it didn’t and then you would be on the ground waking up from getting knocked out and wondering what the hell happened. Once that thing started to step out of line, you were finished, there was no saving it.
2003 YZ250F. It was fine to ride it if you could get it to start. But, you couldn't get it to start.
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Haha we saw it with Bubba so I don’t doubt it one bit.
97 Cr125 what a slow POS lol. It vibrated like crazy because of the new aluminum frame, and the engine was absolute garbage.
Fun little story, got a new 97 Cr125 and placed moto tassinari reeds, pro circuit expansion chamber and silencer, jetted properly, 104-93 blend gas and klotz. Downhill start Columbia Mo state series race. Ripped a great start half a length ahead of everyone and watched all Yamahas rip right by as I clicked 3rd.
Zero torqued, dinky window to stay on the pipe, and overall just awful.
Bought a 2003 yz125 after that and it was like a Cadillac with rockets.
you're nuts Gary-I loved the 01 CR 250. the fix for the 84 YZ was an 83 cylinder. T-bell should've given you one with the purchased
97 cr125 was steel frame last year, before one ever
Then it was a 98. It was aluminum frame. Either way it was a POS lol
1989 KX125...suspension was great but the motor was a dud. When I got the 1990 CR125 I thought I got a supercharged bike. My buddy got a 1990 RM125 at the same and it was so slow I could pass him on any straight by the time we hit 4th gear, and I started a couple bike lengths behind.
1988 Cagiva 125, that bike was even slower than the 89 KX125. Not much else to say.
The worst for me was a 1987 RM250, my 1987 CR125 was faster...
Worst bikes I've ever ridden/owned...
Top of the list was a 1998 KTM MXC 300...it didn't do anything well...just awful.
Next was a 1995 YZ125.... I lost my job at the local dealership due to this POS...I ran out and bought a 95 CR125 from the rival shop after I couldn't get the parts needed to keep the yz alive ....I got fired and a couple weeks later my CR got stolen....my dad also got fired from that dealership after 15 years ....I got blamed and my parents kicked me out....
Next was a 1998 husky WR125....it also broke constantly....power valve governor...cranks, fork tube... unreliable with few parts available in north America..
Currently I bought a 2025 gas gas mc250 a couple months ago and this thing is giving those other bikes a run....for being a giant POS....
Every 500 ive ever ridden. Never owned one but I've ridden a few.85 honda.a couple 90s kxs . an 04 kx. 2 brc bikes as well. A ktm version and a yz version. The ktm was probably the only decent bike. That brc yamaha was awful.
I had the "chance" to test the mighty Cannondale in enduro version. By far the worst bike ever, even with great and modern solutions on it.
I not sure how I missed this thread after all these years. Anyway I have a couple. Before I really got a real MX bike I rode what ever my dad brought home. Back in 1968 he brought home a 55 (not sure of exact year) Triumph Tiger Cub 200cc single. It was my first bike. It was stripped down to only what it needed to run. It was heavy for its size and had very low power but it was my first bike so I learned a lot on it. But it was not a good dirt bike.
Next after that in 1971 he brought home a 1964 Honda CB160 twin street bike. I took all the lights and gauges off. chopped the rear fender and exhaust. I tried to make a dirt bike out of it but it didn't work.
I even took the forks off the Triumph and put them on the Honda. It actually helped but it still sucked.
I say that all my real MX bikes were all good. Some better than others but at the time I had them I thought they were all pretty good until I got the next one.
Funny seing my old post of how much I hated my 01 cr125, that feeling is still there. Definitely up there as one of slowest 125s ever made in the y2k era that's for sure, sorry profesh lol. Since that post I can think of few other bikes I've had that were also terrible. 2015 Ktm 250 sx, holy balls. 50hp of vibrating mean angry 2 stroke with dreadful 4cs forks. Yeah F that bike. Funny enough i had a 2014 which had bigger flywheel then the 15 so power was little more calmed down and it had the open chamber forks that were great. I'd put those forks up against the new aer fork. Crazy what small changes can do to a bike. Another was a friend's 2015 crf450. Weird ergos for a honda, slow as balls, forks were terrible. Kinda glad I skipped that entire 13-16 crf generation. Lastly was a 2011 yz450 I borrowed from a friend, wow just wow no wonder js7 crashed that thing so much, all the power with odd handling, chunky ergos, crazy intake noise. Just doing an air filter even sucked on it
I had a tm 144, really didn’t like that bike I didn’t have it long my gosh it was stiff
Hard to decide between:
1996 RM125
2001 RM250
2003 YZ450F.
Probably the YZF.
A 1999 KX250 broke my femur! I still loved that thing and bought a 2000 model too!
Pit Row
Curious what issues you're having with a 2025 MC250
It fouls a plug with every ride. 18hrs on the clock 8 dead plugs...missing welds on front motor mounts.....lower triple clamp not machined square... nothing you could do to get the front end alignment correct....the axle won't float freely thru the lugs... I replaced both triple clamps with a new set....(From a different brand new gas gas).... everything works as normal....
86 Husquarna 250
85 Kawasaki KX500
84 Suzuki RM250
87 Yamaha YZ125
2004 Honda CR125 what a turd that engine was
I would have to say my 1991 CR250 but was still happy AF to have it.
Rode a 87 Cagiva WMX125 it was slow and felt weird
It needed aftermarket triples with different offset from OEM. Engine was very potent.
They were all OVER the woods in the mid/late 80s. One of the bikes to have for racing enduro/hare scrambles.
Engine was very potent. It barked hard and bit even harder.
In hindsight different offset triple clamps like you say and probably a heavier flywheel would have helped a lot to smooth out the hit.
By the time I did my 07 KX250 build, I couldn't find the correct offset triples in the aftermarket. You could use 2002 KX250 triples from some digging around online, but I never went in on it. I did run a 11oz flywheel weight on my 07, it helped quite a bit. It always fought me in the corners and once you got it kind of usable there, it would have a stinkbug/chopper feel. I loved the bike but to a point.
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