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I couldn't agree more, riding styles and preferences are so different, just like those bitches lol But for real, this is why I only put so much stock into magazine reviews and other personal rider reviews. They can really only give you a baseline of how it performed, but they may hate that baseline, and you might think it sounds awesome.
That being said, I haven't rode a 450 I every really loved. I've rode a 125, and they're fun, it's just sort of a violent ride. 250Fs are good for a lot of rider abilities I think. 250s with the big expansion chambers are still fantastic bikes, just easy to get in trouble on. I had an '09 YZ250 that I bought brand new, and people talk like it is the greatest bike ever, and while I did love that bike a lot, I like the overall feel of my 04 CR250 more. Once I get my jetting dialed on my new Air Striker, it will be my favorite bike I've ever owned. Most people would not take an 02-07 CR over the 06+ YZ, from my online gatherings.
To each their own.
This one a was complete piece of crap. The 1991 YZ 125
Slow, slow, slow when compared with the Suzuki and and Honda of that year
Here's the 'X - Stream' 150 (or 200). Can out-turn anything on the market and out drag a factory 450 with the help of its Norton performance exhaust, so shouldn't really be on this list at all.
The Shop
I forgot the first post, the worst bike I've ever ridden by a LONG shot, is not the TM400, but my '77 Can-Am MX-3 250.
http://www.4strokes.com/guests/uploadpics/1976-XL175-XL125-2s.gif
2002 CR 250. Slow, jetting was funky, didn't care how it handled.
1997 CR 250. Enough said.
Long story short.....I had a buddy that went to prison for 6 months , and he had a 2001 YZF426 and YZF250.......he said " Here....keep these , race the hell out of them....I'll get em' back when I get out" . So I rode the hell out of both of them for 6 months....on top of riding my KX250....but I was starting to fall in love with the 4 strokes and I started doing better in my races on them.
He gets out of prison and picks up his bikes. Another buddy shows up with a brand new 2002 CRF450 ( first year)....I took it a couple laps........more like 15 laps! I didn't want to get off of it! Two weeks later , I sold my KX250 and bought a new 2002 Honda CRF450........my other buddy with the YZF's was pissed!! HA!....he tried to convert me over to the Yamaha's....and I went Honda.
That 02 CRF450 got the hell ridden out of it for 3yrs . Had some solid motor work done on here , after market pipe , Hinson Clutch and so forth......one of the best bikes I ever owned. And it can't hold a candle to my 08' CRF450. Still have it.....and probably the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden.
just an observation.
Pit Row
This POS!
That being said, I'm 100 percent with you on the 86 YZ 125. Conventional / non-cartridge forks, a bottom end only powerband, the weirdest ergos ever and a drum brake to boot. Anyone who bought one of these in 1986 was at a truly unfair disadvantage to anyone riding red.
My runner up worst bike is the 97 CR 250. A twitchy blender on wheels.
Mine is KTM 450. Not sure what year it just felt so awkward.
Had a TM400, never raced it but at least it had power.
Worst bike I ever rode, a friend TS185 Suzuki 10 speed, 2 @ 5. It had the most dead motor ever!!
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