Alta -- Try one if you get the chance!

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9/24/2018 2:24pm
MXVet261 wrote:
I had the opportunity this past weekend to try the Alta MXR and totally loved it. Local Ohio dealer AES brought out two of them to...
I had the opportunity this past weekend to try the Alta MXR and totally loved it. Local Ohio dealer AES brought out two of them to a private riding event and a whole bunch of us Vet riders tried them --- every one of us loved them. Some of the guys were fast vets that always qualify for LL, some of us were decent practice riders, and a few novices. We all loved it.

You get on the bike expecting all this weird stuff but then you start riding and realize it's just like riding any other bike, except no clutch, no shifting, no screwing up in the ruts and stalling the bike, and no engine sound.

One cool moment was one of the faster Vet guys caught me while we were both on the Altas and we were just talking back and forth while dicing on the track. It was really fun!

I could see me having one in the next couple years.
ACBraap wrote:
I see only two reasons to not buy one right now: 1) battery life 2) they are still at the point where tech advancements will happen...
I see only two reasons to not buy one right now:

1) battery life
2) they are still at the point where tech advancements will happen very quickly

A couple years and 1 will increase, and 2 will slow, and that's when the masses will be moving to them.
DYE wrote:
This is exactly what I'm waiting on. If they could last a 2hr hare scramble I would buy one today.
Think there is a lot of us like that, thankfully tech moves really fast these days
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9/24/2018 2:25pm
dimetime wrote:
Enough with this stipid shit. There's an e-bike forum on Vital for all you Alta salesmen and marketers to push your kids toys on for a...
Enough with this stipid shit. There's an e-bike forum on Vital for all you Alta salesmen and marketers to push your kids toys on for a reason. Stop post ebike shit on the regular moto forum.

God damn l feel like l'm being houded at a fucking dealership. How much is Alta paying you guys to fucking spam this shit?
jeffro503 wrote:
Moto is moto man.....doesn't matter what type of power plant moves that bike. And since you seem to be new to the internet , next time...
Moto is moto man.....doesn't matter what type of power plant moves that bike. And since you seem to be new to the internet , next time you see a thread you don't want to read......how about don't click on it? Pretty basic concept really.
Doddy wrote:
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is...
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is the one new to the internet?

Since others can't follow simple forum etiquette, he get's talked down to for pointing it out? Fck logic right?
Half the topics in this main forum could be redirected elsewhere, luckily they are not as this would be a ghost town!
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magoo1982
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9/24/2018 2:27pm
They look like fun , saw one on CList in southern Indiana for $8500. if I had the extra funds would think about pic n it up..T the guys already riding them , bet if u keep getting good results, the other racers will start complaining u have unfair advantage and wont want u racin against them..
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9/24/2018 2:28pm
I have no problem with the OP talking about the ALTA.

If you don't like it, don't click on it.
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9/24/2018 2:40pm
dimetime wrote:
Enough with this stipid shit. There's an e-bike forum on Vital for all you Alta salesmen and marketers to push your kids toys on for a...
Enough with this stipid shit. There's an e-bike forum on Vital for all you Alta salesmen and marketers to push your kids toys on for a reason. Stop post ebike shit on the regular moto forum.

God damn l feel like l'm being houded at a fucking dealership. How much is Alta paying you guys to fucking spam this shit?
Doddy wrote:
I made a comment about it (more so in a joking manner) being in the wrong section because I actually thought a few times I was...
I made a comment about it (more so in a joking manner) being in the wrong section because I actually thought a few times I was in the electric section.

Seems like we are not allowed to comment anything negative either about these things around here. I was curious, now I wish they would go away.
You forgot the words four strokes in your last sentence.
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9/24/2018 2:52pm
There's some in here that need to eat a big bag of dicks
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Main thing keeping me from buying one is battery life, likelihood of big advancements in the next few years, and it's fucking ugly. Loved the one I rode, though.
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mikec265
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9/24/2018 3:21pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Moto is moto man.....doesn't matter what type of power plant moves that bike. And since you seem to be new to the internet , next time...
Moto is moto man.....doesn't matter what type of power plant moves that bike. And since you seem to be new to the internet , next time you see a thread you don't want to read......how about don't click on it? Pretty basic concept really.
Doddy wrote:
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is...
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is the one new to the internet?

Since others can't follow simple forum etiquette, he get's talked down to for pointing it out? Fck logic right?
jeffro503 wrote:
I think you may want to try and understand the forum " Rules ". The main moto forum is for anything and everything , mostly pertaining...
I think you may want to try and understand the forum " Rules ". The main moto forum is for anything and everything , mostly pertaining to dirtbikes and things to do with dirtbikes. There is no rule that states that if you own an electric bike , you're not allowed to talk about it in the main forum. Just because the motor / engine doesn't run on fuel......the other 90% of the Alta is no different from the bikes that do.

Were you a freakin' hall monitor at school? Sheeesh!!

They were the little pricks who didn't get beat up enough in school. I beat kids like that up in middle school.
9/24/2018 3:22pm
dimetime wrote:
Enough with this stipid shit. There's an e-bike forum on Vital for all you Alta salesmen and marketers to push your kids toys on for a...
Enough with this stipid shit. There's an e-bike forum on Vital for all you Alta salesmen and marketers to push your kids toys on for a reason. Stop post ebike shit on the regular moto forum.

God damn l feel like l'm being houded at a fucking dealership. How much is Alta paying you guys to fucking spam this shit?
You have it backwards.
The moto section is for everything moto-related. The electric bike area is just for electric bikes.
Much like you can post about old bikes in moto-related, but there's also an old school moto area.
If there were a "curmudgeon" area you could post there and in the moto-related area. Tongue
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Indy mxer
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9/24/2018 6:41pm
I really appreciate all the feedback from the guys who actually own them.
I'm thinking about buying one as my next bike.

I've told my brother to get set up to sell them at his Kaw/Suz/Polaris dealership so I can buy one from him.
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9/24/2018 7:05pm
I’m good I want a real bike
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9/24/2018 7:51pm
Let me just express my disappointment that an American manufacturer is providing a solid product to riders that is a unique alternative to anything else on the market. I'm especially pissed that they're making a solid effort to support races that allow them to compete and continually taking in feedback from riders and their experiences at the races to further improve their product. What's worse, they're even putting out entertaining content and taking a unique approach to marketing. Those ass holes, how do they even sleep at night knowing how much they support moto and off-road and how awesome of a bike they produce, it's just sickening.
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9/24/2018 8:31pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Moto is moto man.....doesn't matter what type of power plant moves that bike. And since you seem to be new to the internet , next time...
Moto is moto man.....doesn't matter what type of power plant moves that bike. And since you seem to be new to the internet , next time you see a thread you don't want to read......how about don't click on it? Pretty basic concept really.
Doddy wrote:
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is...
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is the one new to the internet?

Since others can't follow simple forum etiquette, he get's talked down to for pointing it out? Fck logic right?
jeffro503 wrote:
I think you may want to try and understand the forum " Rules ". The main moto forum is for anything and everything , mostly pertaining...
I think you may want to try and understand the forum " Rules ". The main moto forum is for anything and everything , mostly pertaining to dirtbikes and things to do with dirtbikes. There is no rule that states that if you own an electric bike , you're not allowed to talk about it in the main forum. Just because the motor / engine doesn't run on fuel......the other 90% of the Alta is no different from the bikes that do.

Were you a freakin' hall monitor at school? Sheeesh!!

I agree with most of what you said and I really don't care that much, however some seem to be pushy with it so it's understandable from where I sit. That's all.
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9/24/2018 10:02pm
Doddy wrote:
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is...
They have their own section, yet people continue to post in the wrong section. People can't seem to follow the basic forum guidelines/rules and he is the one new to the internet?

Since others can't follow simple forum etiquette, he get's talked down to for pointing it out? Fck logic right?
jeffro503 wrote:
I think you may want to try and understand the forum " Rules ". The main moto forum is for anything and everything , mostly pertaining...
I think you may want to try and understand the forum " Rules ". The main moto forum is for anything and everything , mostly pertaining to dirtbikes and things to do with dirtbikes. There is no rule that states that if you own an electric bike , you're not allowed to talk about it in the main forum. Just because the motor / engine doesn't run on fuel......the other 90% of the Alta is no different from the bikes that do.

Were you a freakin' hall monitor at school? Sheeesh!!

Doddy wrote:
I agree with most of what you said and I really don't care that much, however some seem to be pushy with it so it's understandable...
I agree with most of what you said and I really don't care that much, however some seem to be pushy with it so it's understandable from where I sit. That's all.
The thing is.....there really isn't much info / thread's on the Alta's on here. For someone looking for info on what one is like , it's mostly coming from guy's on here that had a chance to ride / test one , and what their thought's were. Only a couple guys on here actually own them. So for someone like me , if I was looking for info on them....it's kind of hard to come by. These bike's are still relatively new to this sport , so for myself....I like being able to read about other people's experiences on them. I know pretty close to absolutely nothing about these bikes , so when a thread pop's up about them.....I enjoy reading them.
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Doddy
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9/24/2018 11:06pm
jeffro503 wrote:
The thing is.....there really isn't much info / thread's on the Alta's on here. For someone looking for info on what one is like , it's...
The thing is.....there really isn't much info / thread's on the Alta's on here. For someone looking for info on what one is like , it's mostly coming from guy's on here that had a chance to ride / test one , and what their thought's were. Only a couple guys on here actually own them. So for someone like me , if I was looking for info on them....it's kind of hard to come by. These bike's are still relatively new to this sport , so for myself....I like being able to read about other people's experiences on them. I know pretty close to absolutely nothing about these bikes , so when a thread pop's up about them.....I enjoy reading them.
I do enjoy a good read from personal experiences also. Doesn't matter what bike, Alta, Honda, Kawi, etc. Don't me that XX brand is a better bike and will change my life.....tell me WHY it is a better bike and how it will change my life......and don't be "pushy" with it.

I am not sure what type of info you are looking for that isn't already on here. With all the information I see using the search function the only thing that would make any difference for me at least, would be how it feels between my legs.

Not here to argue, I just sorta agreed with an unpopular opinion.
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ctbale
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9/25/2018 12:22am
BR8ES wrote:
I am afraid of trying one because I may actually like it and buy one, thus making me eat crow.
That was my fear about sleeping with fat chicks and listening to Britney Spears, but hey, if everybody else is, why not!
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Frank
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9/25/2018 1:54am
I'm sure I will buy one in 10-15 years. Sound and smell are still important to me when it comes to motorsports.
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Haven’t seen one, but hope they make it here. I’m very interested in trying one.
One potential issue I foresee is no clutch, but that’s from a safety point of view.
A question for the guys that know: if I were to grab a handful of whiskey throttle, does hitting the brakes shut the power off, or does it keep powering through, fighting the brakes? Is the bike tuneable in that sense?
The clutch has saved me once or twice from potentially big crashes over the years.
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9/25/2018 3:32am
Love my Alta!! Best handling bike i've ever owned.
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9/25/2018 4:39am Edited Date/Time 9/25/2018 4:44am
I bought a new 2019 KTM 350 XC-F. In a way, I hope it is my last ICE bike. When the Alta can finish a 2 hour Hare Scrambles/GNCC race, I'm buying one. I would've bought one now, but Alta admits it won't quite make it in map 2.

I am looking for about 10 acres semi-close to town, so being able to ride on my property without offending neighbors is HUGE for me. The Alta will make this possible I hope in the next few years...

I might agree that a clutch could be helpful when negotiating some trail obstacles. I run a Rekluse now and there are times when having a fully functioning clutch makes a big difference...
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wfopete
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9/25/2018 5:06am
Such fun to watch Alta chip away at the non-believers. But they are just chipping away, not mass converting.

As been said for years: "E-bikes (or E-Anything) are just a couple of technical advances to be totally mainstream".
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9/25/2018 5:22am
wfopete wrote:
Such fun to watch Alta chip away at the non-believers. But they are just chipping away, not mass converting. As been said for years: "E-bikes (or...
Such fun to watch Alta chip away at the non-believers. But they are just chipping away, not mass converting.

As been said for years: "E-bikes (or E-Anything) are just a couple of technical advances to be totally mainstream".
I alway offer people the chance to try mine at the track. Every time they come back with a big smile!
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9/25/2018 7:06am Edited Date/Time 9/25/2018 7:07am
BR8ES wrote:
I am afraid of trying one because I may actually like it and buy one, thus making me eat crow.
ctbale wrote:
That was my fear about sleeping with fat chicks and listening to Britney Spears, but hey, if everybody else is, why not!
Fat chicks maybe, even a moped probably . but Britney Spears? That is a no go.
9/25/2018 7:09am
tempura wrote:
Haven’t seen one, but hope they make it here. I’m very interested in trying one. One potential issue I foresee is no clutch, but that’s from...
Haven’t seen one, but hope they make it here. I’m very interested in trying one.
One potential issue I foresee is no clutch, but that’s from a safety point of view.
A question for the guys that know: if I were to grab a handful of whiskey throttle, does hitting the brakes shut the power off, or does it keep powering through, fighting the brakes? Is the bike tuneable in that sense?
The clutch has saved me once or twice from potentially big crashes over the years.
You quickly realize that a clutch isn't as necessary as you might think. In corners you never need to "spool up" the motor to get in the meat of the power because you're pretty much always in the meat of the power on the Alta. If you grab too much throttle you tend to just back off the throttle a little bit or tap the rear brake to settle it.

I primarily use map 4 when racing. There are times when the power output is too much, particularly in the tight stuff, and map 3 or 2 (which are more 250f like) would probably be better. I'm going to be trying some gearing changes to shift the power curve a bit; thinking about going up a tooth in the front which will shift the power curve higher in the mph range. It would roll into the power but also supply more power up in the 35-40mph range.
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9/25/2018 7:23am
mikec265 wrote:
It wouldn't take much to perfect one to your liking. There's a few things I don't like, but I am glad that I bought an MXR...
It wouldn't take much to perfect one to your liking. There's a few things I don't like, but I am glad that I bought an MXR. Instead of driving to get race gas all I gotta do is plug it in. I wish I had bought one of these sooner.
Does having an Alta in the back of a F250 qualify you to park in Whole Foods electric parking spots? If so I'm in.
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9/25/2018 7:41am
JM485 wrote:
Let me just express my disappointment that an American manufacturer is providing a solid product to riders that is a unique alternative to anything else on...
Let me just express my disappointment that an American manufacturer is providing a solid product to riders that is a unique alternative to anything else on the market. I'm especially pissed that they're making a solid effort to support races that allow them to compete and continually taking in feedback from riders and their experiences at the races to further improve their product. What's worse, they're even putting out entertaining content and taking a unique approach to marketing. Those ass holes, how do they even sleep at night knowing how much they support moto and off-road and how awesome of a bike they produce, it's just sickening.
B I N G O. Some people you just can't reach.
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xr70
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9/25/2018 10:53am
I am probably going to get lynched for this, but f it. This Alta reminds me of KTM experience. You buy that POS overpriced for a whole bunch of money, then you realize that the suspension sucks, so you put another $8k in the suspension and then you buy a whole bunch of other shit for it that you think it needs and by the time you realize it, you are into it for $25k. 6 months after that, you come to the conclusion that the thing is a POS anyway and you sell it and now your butt hurts because you lost a whole bunch of money. I think I will just stick with my Yamaha, which is a great bike to ride out of the box.

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9/25/2018 11:51am
mikec265 wrote:
It wouldn't take much to perfect one to your liking. There's a few things I don't like, but I am glad that I bought an MXR...
It wouldn't take much to perfect one to your liking. There's a few things I don't like, but I am glad that I bought an MXR. Instead of driving to get race gas all I gotta do is plug it in. I wish I had bought one of these sooner.
Panic_Rev wrote:
Does having an Alta in the back of a F250 qualify you to park in Whole Foods electric parking spots? If so I'm in.
Idk, but I do try to park defensively when I get pizza or doughnuts.
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xr70 wrote:
I am probably going to get lynched for this, but f it. This Alta reminds me of KTM experience. You buy that POS overpriced for a...
I am probably going to get lynched for this, but f it. This Alta reminds me of KTM experience. You buy that POS overpriced for a whole bunch of money, then you realize that the suspension sucks, so you put another $8k in the suspension and then you buy a whole bunch of other shit for it that you think it needs and by the time you realize it, you are into it for $25k. 6 months after that, you come to the conclusion that the thing is a POS anyway and you sell it and now your butt hurts because you lost a whole bunch of money. I think I will just stick with my Yamaha, which is a great bike to ride out of the box.

The suspension does suck on my MXR. But I am also 225 lbs, so every bike I buy needs suspension work anyhow. Spring forks would probably be better than the AER 48 air forks.
I will honestly say I have had new mid 2000's RMZs that had way more controllable suspension, even though I was too heavy for the stock settings.
This bike doesn't piss off my neighbors and I have ridden more on my new home track than in the last 10 years combined. I am glad I own one, even though it is not perfect. I would love to see 50,65,and 85cc bikes available for my kids that are competitive with the gas mx bikes.
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ACBraap
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I bought a new 2019 KTM 350 XC-F. In a way, I hope it is my last ICE bike. When the Alta can finish a 2...
I bought a new 2019 KTM 350 XC-F. In a way, I hope it is my last ICE bike. When the Alta can finish a 2 hour Hare Scrambles/GNCC race, I'm buying one. I would've bought one now, but Alta admits it won't quite make it in map 2.

I am looking for about 10 acres semi-close to town, so being able to ride on my property without offending neighbors is HUGE for me. The Alta will make this possible I hope in the next few years...

I might agree that a clutch could be helpful when negotiating some trail obstacles. I run a Rekluse now and there are times when having a fully functioning clutch makes a big difference...
There was a new mx track proposal here in WA, made it through all kinds of permitting, then ultimately was shut down by the greenies on appeal. Their biggest issue was noise. I'd like to see the owners resubmit the plans as an electric only mx track.
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