Kawasaki is bringing the two stroke back!

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I believe so, thats why I left it on…..only the rear tire was not original on this bike…even had the stock steel green bars….which if you...

I believe so, thats why I left it on…..only the rear tire was not original on this bike…even had the stock steel green bars….which if you know, lasted 1 fall before they were junk😂IMG 0265 1IMG 0266 2

All I see is a touch of grey.  Where is this green you speak of?

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face biter wrote:

All I see is a touch of grey.  Where is this green you speak of?

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You want a pb&j with that hit of acid🤪

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face biter wrote:

All I see is a touch of grey.  Where is this green you speak of?

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sandman768 wrote:

You want a pb&j with that hit of acid🤪

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360 used to be a very popular big bore displacement. Suzuki had the RM370. Good time to stick with tradition!

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Flatliner wrote:

325 seems odd. In what world would you want a full mx bike that's slightly less juice than the ktm.

 

higher revving less gyroscopic effect into corners tm makes a 300 four stroke seems like a good idea like a 250 on steroids 

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Flatliner wrote:

325 seems odd. In what world would you want a full mx bike that's slightly less juice than the ktm.

 

ryanxmx31 wrote:

higher revving less gyroscopic effect into corners tm makes a 300 four stroke seems like a good idea like a 250 on steroids 

The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most popular bikes. 

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soooo close to a 50 pager..... 

geezzuss Kawi's marketing dept is a chitshow.... 

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gt80rider wrote:

soooo close to a 50 pager..... 

geezzuss Kawi's marketing dept is a chitshow.... 

It was posted months ago that the program was delayed a model year and dealers have recently been told there will be something official coming next month.  Kawi’s marketing department doesn’t take its direction from Vital threads.

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gt80rider wrote:

soooo close to a 50 pager..... 

geezzuss Kawi's marketing dept is a chitshow.... 

280driver wrote:
It was posted months ago that the program was delayed a model year and dealers have recently been told there will be something official coming next...

It was posted months ago that the program was delayed a model year and dealers have recently been told there will be something official coming next month.  Kawi’s marketing department doesn’t take its direction from Vital threads.

Weren't they told an update would be announced next month, last month? 

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330cc not 325cc

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gt80rider wrote:

soooo close to a 50 pager..... 

geezzuss Kawi's marketing dept is a chitshow.... 

280driver wrote:
It was posted months ago that the program was delayed a model year and dealers have recently been told there will be something official coming next...

It was posted months ago that the program was delayed a model year and dealers have recently been told there will be something official coming next month.  Kawi’s marketing department doesn’t take its direction from Vital threads.

snillum wrote:

Weren't they told an update would be announced next month, last month? 

November 

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PRM31 wrote:

If they do a 325 4t, it needs to have essentially as much power as an Austrian 350. 

Why is that? There is no class for a 350. If you want more power, buy a 450.

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PRM31 wrote:

If they do a 325 4t, it needs to have essentially as much power as an Austrian 350. 

Why is that? There is no class for a 350. If you want more power, buy a 450.

350s are big in off-road. 

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10/15/2025 8:19am

Ponca City started this morning. Going through entries, Kawasaki has recently signed Eiden Steinbrecher, Jett Rau, Kannon Zabjonik, Shannon Tarnow and few others to race 85’s. These kids could sign with any brand, probably safe to say a new 85 is coming soon.

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Just talked with my local dealer insiders.

Apparently, big news coming Spring 2026. Also hinted at something we’ve never seen before in the 2 stroke market. He then said 2 2 5. 3 2 7. And 300.

Interesting decisions on the CC’s but hey what do I know I’m just the valued customer who wants one.

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shortty761 wrote:
Just talked with my local dealer insiders.Apparently, big news coming Spring 2026. Also hinted at something we’ve never seen before in the 2 stroke market. He...

Just talked with my local dealer insiders.

Apparently, big news coming Spring 2026. Also hinted at something we’ve never seen before in the 2 stroke market. He then said 2 2 5. 3 2 7. And 300.

Interesting decisions on the CC’s but hey what do I know I’m just the valued customer who wants one.

so hears the thing, if your guy knows then there must be others who know the same thing. Lets see if your info is confirmed by someone else in the next day or two. If so, looks like we finally have an answer. If not, just another rumor unconfirmed by anyone else. 

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Did you guys all miss it?

Kawasaki unveiled 1 of their new 2 stroke chainsaw at the MXoN !

 

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280driver wrote:
It was posted months ago that the program was delayed a model year and dealers have recently been told there will be something official coming next...

It was posted months ago that the program was delayed a model year and dealers have recently been told there will be something official coming next month.  Kawi’s marketing department doesn’t take its direction from Vital threads.

This was always going to come out after the H2 dropped.  Considering the leadup they did in releasing that, I'd think you can expect similar for the smoker.

10/15/2025 9:23am
Flatliner wrote:

325 seems odd. In what world would you want a full mx bike that's slightly less juice than the ktm.

 

ryanxmx31 wrote:

higher revving less gyroscopic effect into corners tm makes a 300 four stroke seems like a good idea like a 250 on steroids 

soggy wrote:
The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most...

The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most popular bikes. 

I think people said the 350's would be a miss too, and there's not a 350 class so I don't see the problem. Different bore/stroke could make a slightly smaller cc bike perform a lot different than the Aus 350's. I'd be interested in riding one before I say it's a "miss". The 350f, 300 2 stroke and 350 2 stroke were once just an idea and have now become very popular. I'm all for any kind of new shit in the industry!

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10/15/2025 10:21am Edited Date/Time 10/15/2025 10:22am
ryanxmx31 wrote:

higher revving less gyroscopic effect into corners tm makes a 300 four stroke seems like a good idea like a 250 on steroids 

soggy wrote:
The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most...

The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most popular bikes. 

Kindasmoky wrote:
I think people said the 350's would be a miss too, and there's not a 350 class so I don't see the problem. Different bore/stroke could...

I think people said the 350's would be a miss too, and there's not a 350 class so I don't see the problem. Different bore/stroke could make a slightly smaller cc bike perform a lot different than the Aus 350's. I'd be interested in riding one before I say it's a "miss". The 350f, 300 2 stroke and 350 2 stroke were once just an idea and have now become very popular. I'm all for any kind of new shit in the industry!

Agreed, it doesn't need to be competitive because the 350 isn't competitive. If 325 is what they're going with I'm sure they tried out several options and decided it would be more useable/fun for people in the 350 market. Excited to see how things turn out

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10/15/2025 11:16am
snillum wrote:

Weren't they told an update would be announced next month, last month? 

No, we’ve been told by ML for a couple of months now that we’re expecting an update in November. Yet every week people comment saying ‘still no news’…

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snillum wrote:

Weren't they told an update would be announced next month, last month? 

No, we’ve been told by ML for a couple of months now that we’re expecting an update in November. Yet every week people comment saying ‘still...

No, we’ve been told by ML for a couple of months now that we’re expecting an update in November. Yet every week people comment saying ‘still no news’…

Well, they’re not wrong. 

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10/15/2025 11:47am Edited Date/Time 10/15/2025 11:52am
soggy wrote:
The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most...

The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most popular bikes. 

Kindasmoky wrote:
I think people said the 350's would be a miss too, and there's not a 350 class so I don't see the problem. Different bore/stroke could...

I think people said the 350's would be a miss too, and there's not a 350 class so I don't see the problem. Different bore/stroke could make a slightly smaller cc bike perform a lot different than the Aus 350's. I'd be interested in riding one before I say it's a "miss". The 350f, 300 2 stroke and 350 2 stroke were once just an idea and have now become very popular. I'm all for any kind of new shit in the industry!

smack wrote:
Agreed, it doesn't need to be competitive because the 350 isn't competitive. If 325 is what they're going with I'm sure they tried out several options...

Agreed, it doesn't need to be competitive because the 350 isn't competitive. If 325 is what they're going with I'm sure they tried out several options and decided it would be more useable/fun for people in the 350 market. Excited to see how things turn out

In what world do you live in where a 350 isn’t competitive? 

I seem to remember Cairoli winning 6 consecutive championships on one. 

Pretty sure Kailub Russell had quite the career while racing one as well. 

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In what world do you live in where a 350 isn’t competitive? I seem to remember Cairoli winning 6 consecutive championships on one. Pretty sure Kailub Russell had...

In what world do you live in where a 350 isn’t competitive? 

I seem to remember Cairoli winning 6 consecutive championships on one. 

Pretty sure Kailub Russell had quite the career while racing one as well. 

Sorry, by not competitive I meant there aren't pro classes limited at 350 (afaik). If someone can make it work with 100cc less than everyone else why is another 25 a problem?

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soggy wrote:
The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most...

The 350 market is massive. It would be a miss by Kawi to make a 325. Make it the same displacement as one of the most popular bikes. 

Kindasmoky wrote:
I think people said the 350's would be a miss too, and there's not a 350 class so I don't see the problem. Different bore/stroke could...

I think people said the 350's would be a miss too, and there's not a 350 class so I don't see the problem. Different bore/stroke could make a slightly smaller cc bike perform a lot different than the Aus 350's. I'd be interested in riding one before I say it's a "miss". The 350f, 300 2 stroke and 350 2 stroke were once just an idea and have now become very popular. I'm all for any kind of new shit in the industry!

smack wrote:
Agreed, it doesn't need to be competitive because the 350 isn't competitive. If 325 is what they're going with I'm sure they tried out several options...

Agreed, it doesn't need to be competitive because the 350 isn't competitive. If 325 is what they're going with I'm sure they tried out several options and decided it would be more useable/fun for people in the 350 market. Excited to see how things turn out

Kawasaki has a history of deriving dirt bike 4 stroke motor displacements from "one cylinder" of a street bike: A 325cc would be half of their 650 Ninja. Not saying it's going to happen, just saying there is a precedent.

I'm waiting for EICMA (European motorcycle show) in the first week of November as that is where most new models have their debut.  

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This will go down as one of the biggest snafus in the motorcycle industry. 

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Nothing has been confirmed even a little bit by Kawie. Just some wonky video of 2 stroke noise.The cockroach of threads...it just won't die. 

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MOTO13 wrote:
Nothing has been confirmed even a little bit by Kawie. Just some wonky video of 2 stroke noise.The cockroach of threads...it just won't die. 

Nothing has been confirmed even a little bit by Kawie. Just some wonky video of 2 stroke noise.The cockroach of threads...it just won't die. 

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