Vohland running a left hand rear brake for SX; how to …

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..,rear brake-tap over a jump to bring the front-end down if you can’t pull in the clutch since your using your hand to activate the relocated brake lever? Rekluse auto clutch? 
Ref. Clip at 21:50 per attached.

https://youtu.be/ylxmmadNIPk?si=W1EuxzNs4uWvXko6

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Does anyone know why?

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OwenJakes wrote:

Does anyone know why?

Why the hand brake? He said feeling hasn’t come back fully in his foot and can’t feel the foot brake

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He’s using the clutch with one finger and brake with the other he uses them simultaneously.

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Joko wrote:
..,rear brake-tap over a jump to bring the front-end down if you can’t pull in the clutch since your using your hand to activate the relocated...

..,rear brake-tap over a jump to bring the front-end down if you can’t pull in the clutch since your using your hand to activate the relocated brake lever? Rekluse auto clutch? 
Ref. Clip at 21:50 per attached.

https://youtu.be/ylxmmadNIPk?si=W1EuxzNs4uWvXko6

One finger on the brake, one on the clutch. Pull them both in. In someways this could be advantageous for him, but not enough to overcome not feeling your foot I’m guessing. Rooting for Max though he has cool style on the bike. 

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Could be money on right handed first turns

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1/7/2025 5:14pm

I’ve thought about the same thing and was thinking.. Is it possible he also has a rear brake pedal in the instance of needing to hit it in the air like you mentioned where you don’t need to be precise but at least the lever is still there to mash?

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Very interesting

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Man that boot is LOOSE 😳

Noticed that straight away the first time the pic was posted but didn’t want to get blasted for bringing it up, but yeah he’s got hella room there for almost another leg. lol.  Rooting for Max and no way in hell I could ride with the clutch hand brake combo. 

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UK mtb brake setup really. 

 

Hope-Tech-3-Duo-double-hydraulic-disc-brake 2-brakes-2-levers-1-hand Hopetech-CNC-machined-dual-hydraulic-brake-lever Eurobike

 

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aeffertz wrote:
I’ve thought about the same thing and was thinking.. Is it possible he also has a rear brake pedal in the instance of needing to hit...

I’ve thought about the same thing and was thinking.. Is it possible he also has a rear brake pedal in the instance of needing to hit it in the air like you mentioned where you don’t need to be precise but at least the lever is still there to mash?

That sounds possible, I’d definitely mess that up and probably hit both brake levers and stall it out in the air 

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1/7/2025 11:32pm Edited Date/Time 1/9/2025 2:19pm

why not a thumb brake?  Two levers just seems cluttered and it doesn't seem easy to modulate both simultaneously

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1/7/2025 11:49pm

That's crazyyyy. Why couldn't they just have the front hand brake control the rear also at the same time?

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That's crazyyyy. Why couldn't they just have the front hand brake control the rear also at the same time?

bc you don't want that

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That's crazyyyy. Why couldn't they just have the front hand brake control the rear also at the same time?

You may want to think about that for a moment…….

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1/8/2025 1:36am

Mick Doohan had to use a thumb rear brake after badly damaging his foot in a crash that left him unable to use a foot brake. He kept on dominating MotoGP (or 500GPs as they were back then), leading to some riders trying out thumb brakes thinking he somehow had an advantage. Nothing to do with him being an absolute beast, then 😄

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If Vohland podiums, how long until we see other riders adopting this set-up...

And I guess his boot is a little loose because of the nerve issue. 

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1/8/2025 2:52am
Snapper wrote:

If Vohland podiums, how long until we see other riders adopting this set-up...

And I guess his boot is a little loose because of the nerve issue. 

Being that his injury was in his brake foot (right leg) and this handbrake set up is his left hand….that loose boot is not the injured leg.  Dude just seems to have very thin legs.

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Snapper wrote:

If Vohland podiums, how long until we see other riders adopting this set-up...

And I guess his boot is a little loose because of the nerve issue. 

Being that his injury was in his brake foot (right leg) and this handbrake set up is his left hand….that loose boot is not the injured...

Being that his injury was in his brake foot (right leg) and this handbrake set up is his left hand….that loose boot is not the injured leg.  Dude just seems to have very thin legs.

Good observation 🙂

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1/8/2025 3:22am
Snapper wrote:

If Vohland podiums, how long until we see other riders adopting this set-up...

And I guess his boot is a little loose because of the nerve issue. 

Let's see how he does on the tracks with right hand first turns, Tampa, Detroit and Daytona.

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Being that his injury was in his brake foot (right leg) and this handbrake set up is his left hand….that loose boot is not the injured...

Being that his injury was in his brake foot (right leg) and this handbrake set up is his left hand….that loose boot is not the injured leg.  Dude just seems to have very thin legs.

That is facts. I was going to post the same. When I was 12-13 I remember some boots fitting me like that because I was maxs size. Now I can't find pants to fit my thighs. I'm a 32 waist but need to wear a 36 to get them over my thighs and they're skin tight. Maybe it was just me but I thought max looked good in the club videos. Like podium contender, hopefully he turns things around. 

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1/8/2025 4:08am

Im more surprised by the fact that this is allowed. But I think its really cool vohland found a solution that works for him. Has this ever been done before in ama supercross or promotocross?

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Zacka 161 wrote:

I use a Clake which works pretty awesome, I’m surprised no one has tried one   


https://www.clake.com.au/clake-prolever-dual-standard-control/
 

My right leg is 1 1/2" shorter and I use a 3/4' lift on all my shoes and boots. (Yep from Dirt Bikes) I can feel the brake but not as well as one should. Thus I've made mistakes when I inadvertently put to much pressure on the brake pedal! One led to a brolen left wrist when I transferred weight foward to fast and extremely loaded the wrist. That one needed to be plated. 

I installed the Clake on my 2021 KTM 300 XC and really liked the setup.

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For anyone curious hes running a Rekluse brand hand brake, they are sort of a pain to keep feeling good and strong enough but having your bike maintained by a mechanic makes it a non issue. 

Its a little tricky to get a handbrake to be strong enough, the two piston front caliper obviously doesn't need as much force from the hand to get to brake. There is thumb brakes they have used for road racing but they are huge to be able to have a larger piston and there just isn't room on MX bars for all that. 

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My wife has been running left hand rear brakes on her Husky/KTMs for twenty years. She is shorter, so she can still use the rear brake and have the option to put either foot down. Riding with one of these setups gives you more dexterity on the rear brake as well.

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AMetts wrote:
For anyone curious hes running a Rekluse brand hand brake, they are sort of a pain to keep feeling good and strong enough but having your...

For anyone curious hes running a Rekluse brand hand brake, they are sort of a pain to keep feeling good and strong enough but having your bike maintained by a mechanic makes it a non issue. 

Its a little tricky to get a handbrake to be strong enough, the two piston front caliper obviously doesn't need as much force from the hand to get to brake. There is thumb brakes they have used for road racing but they are huge to be able to have a larger piston and there just isn't room on MX bars for all that. 

I think Jeff Emig ran a twin piston rear caliper that year he won Vegas on the Yamaha

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Zacka 161 wrote:

I use a Clake which works pretty awesome, I’m surprised no one has tried one   


https://www.clake.com.au/clake-prolever-dual-standard-control/
 

You'd think they'd try something like the Clake Two, wouldn't you?

Vohland's set up there looks dreadful, but, I guess they've tried a few different things for him, and, he's happy with it.

So many peoples' LH Brake and Clutch lever set ups look damned near unusable. If you can't use Both levers At The Same Time,  Easily, but also, Separately, it's a bloody nightmare. 

I can't use a standard rear foot brake well / safely, not for the last 35 (well, far more than that) years.

So, I've gone through Lot of variations of Brake / Clutch lever set ups, over many years - and, can make them myself, to work Perfectly, and Easily, for Me.  My Tar bikes, I largely use Thumb brake levers now - I tried them on Dirt Bikes, but, Forward levers are better for Dirt usage.

My old beast has a cable clutch, so, I don't personally use a Clake, but a few of my mates do, with their 'juice' clutched bikes, after trying my double lever set up. The Clake Two, when I've tried it,  is damned near as good as my set up - bearing in mind, mine is made for Me, and my 'peculiarities'. For someone as picky as me, to find the Clake nearly perfect, shows how much development they've done. All of their stuff is impressive!

 My 'made by me' lever blades, and the angle of the pull for the upper clutch lever, fit my hand / fingers / wrist perfectly  . The little lever, above the Brembo MC, is the Clutch - as I still use the Rekluse Pro 2 (?) clutch, there's next to no 'pull' force required on the lever, especially at low / mid rev levels. In this picture, it's slightly up from where it is in use, (it's all rotated way up from being down in the Handguard, which is under the paper towel)  with it then being right down onto the Brembo MC - when the clutch lever is down, there's more of a gap between the Brake lever and  the fore finger Clutch lever, than the picture shows. My fingers can Never get trapped, or interfere with either lever. The pronounced curve to the little clutch lever, keeps the finger from slipping  off at full pull :

Brembo LHRB Lever and Modded CR Clutch lever combo

 

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Something to keep in mind too is fast guys are rarely using the clutch and rear brake at the same time unless they are sliding the rear around or hitting the brake in the air. Everyone shouldn't use the clutch when braking, you really want to use engine braking and the rear brake to keep bike planted. 

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