Sexton to KTM confirmed?

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11/30/2022 10:23am
OH GOD NOT THE DRUG TESTING Calm down, it wasn’t some WADA test, it was a condition from a prospective team and Kenny turned it down...

OH GOD NOT THE DRUG TESTING

Calm down, it wasn’t some WADA test, it was a condition from a prospective team and Kenny turned it down. Now he’s looking comfy throwing down some big fat whips on the yellow bike, I think he’s doing alright.

 

Anywho, I thought this exchange on the Whiskey Throttle IG post was funny… Did Ping really reply to this surfer guy from the WT account, just to switch over and reply again from his personal account? lol

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Ping is a fucking dickhead lol. He’s got some good interviews on WTS, but then does shit like that. Same difference as calling people on vital...

Ping is a fucking dickhead lol.

He’s got some good interviews on WTS, but then does shit like that. Same difference as calling people on vital retards as he was on their payroll. 

Bow977 wrote:
Because he is calling people out for saying clickbait? It’s not clickbait.   Sexton to Red Bull KTM in 2024, which means most likely Webb is...

Because he is calling people out for saying clickbait? It’s not clickbait.

 

Sexton to Red Bull KTM in 2024, which means most likely Webb is out.

 

Or maybe it’s because he doesn’t mind insulting his listeners while sounding like a teenage rapper wannabe. Ping has always had a pretentious air about him.

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11/30/2022 10:24am
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Ping lost me as a fan over the last couple of years. WTM put out some good stuff and he is good at his job but...

Ping lost me as a fan over the last couple of years. WTM put out some good stuff and he is good at his job but as a person, I’m out at this point. 
the article and the social media shit show is terrible on both parts. Extremely unprofessional of the agent, he should have just hit WTM with some warning letter and put out an official statement shutting it down, he’s just fucked himself in the comments. 
If he is trying to say what I think he’s trying to say I don’t think Kenny is doing anything down right performance enhancing but in the off season I’m sure he is getting regenekine, certain procedures etc etc to help with healing and his immune issues that, without clear testing protocol being known, could flag something up. 
These tests can flag up if you use steroid cream or if you use the wrong supplement bought at a Holland and Barret. It’s not black and white.

This makes a lot of sense and would explain why Kenny is on fire for the first few rounds of the season. His body is 100%...

This makes a lot of sense and would explain why Kenny is on fire for the first few rounds of the season. His body is 100% when he shows up for A1 from whatever therapy he is doing in the off-season. Since that therapy isn’t clearly defined as acceptable/unacceptable by WADA or whatever bullshit governing body supervises these guys at this point, he quits it cold turkey when it’s time to be tested and then benefits have worn off by mid season, hence his performance decline. 
 

THIS IS ALL PURELY SPECULATION and me just bullshitting with you all on vital. I really don’t believe that Kenny is doing anything tremendously performance enhancing, like doping, HGH, etc., but because WADA has their heads up their ass, he could find himself in a Broc Tickle situation pretty easily with something as benign as C4 pre-workout. 
 

I tend to enjoy Ping’s WT interviews, but he seems like a real douche canoe on social media. It’s crazy how quickly he stabbed Kenny in the back. RBSR was barely over a month ago. Like someone said earlier, he most likely has his number. Why not shoot him a text/call man to man and get to the bottom of this pretty serious allegation instead of blowing him out on social like a high school girl. 

You can take HGH everyday during the season and still pass drug tests with ease. Same goes for lots of other compounds as long as you arent an idiot about it and don't use something weird with a super long half life. 

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11/30/2022 10:30am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 10:31am

We had angry Marv and angry Dunge, now we have angry Ping

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tek14 wrote:
Imagine you run big company and want to hire people and you ask future workers to take test and some of them have problem taking the...

Imagine you run big company and want to hire people and you ask future workers to take test and some of them have problem taking the test. 

In that scenario, the drug test is a condition of employment.  It doesn’t happen until an offer is made and you are on the way to being hired.

It’s never “take a drug test and then we’ll talk to you”.

 

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11/30/2022 11:04am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 11:33am
tek14 wrote:
Imagine you run big company and want to hire people and you ask future workers to take test and some of them have problem taking the...

Imagine you run big company and want to hire people and you ask future workers to take test and some of them have problem taking the test. 

Press516 wrote:
In that scenario, the drug test is a condition of employment.  It doesn’t happen until an offer is made and you are on the way to...

In that scenario, the drug test is a condition of employment.  It doesn’t happen until an offer is made and you are on the way to being hired.

It’s never “take a drug test and then we’ll talk to you”.

 

Except neither of these scenarios is what Ping said. He said KTM allegedly dropped Roczen from consideration after Roczen/Astephen made a stink about allegedly undisclosed required drug tests unrelated KTM talks.

Edit: it's possible KTM passed on Roczen to get ready for Sexton (and possibly Webb) in '24 and the timing with the drug test thing is just coincidence.

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I think a rider getting  off the track after 30 minutes at 180 bpm not breathing hard is a pretty solid indication.     I think riders...

I think a rider getting  off the track after 30 minutes at 180 bpm not breathing hard is a pretty solid indication. 
 

 I think riders that have used the same trainer having ibs, stomach problems,  and continues signs of food poisoning is a pretty solid indication. 

DunnySeat wrote:

So you're saying Tony Alessi was right all along? Shocking.

Well with Uptite, only if it involves Aldon

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11/30/2022 11:43am
CPan wrote:
Astephen goes on to explain (now deleted) that he (not Kenny) initially refused due to lack of protocol. They did end up submitting a test to...

Astephen goes on to explain (now deleted) that he (not Kenny) initially refused due to lack of protocol. They did end up submitting a test to FIM with negative results. 
 

These are his words not mine, I just happened to catch it last night before it was all deleted. 
 

I think both sides really fucked up this post. Ping shouldn’t have watered down the Chase news by throwing Kenny under the bus with baseless allegations, and Astephen made himself look bad with his initial incoherent ramblings. 

sam hain wrote:

I'd say Kenny won't be riding any more of WT's 2stks after this!

Richy wrote:

Pretty weird turn from "hey buddy, ride my YZ" to "Surprise! I just randomly posted that you refused a drug test lol"

Honest question, if Ping does in fact have a solid verified source should he ignore the story? I don't know if he does or doesn't, but that sentence is why people don't take media seriously especially in this industry, the consumers of said media expect you to put bros before news. No offense to anyone in moto media because it is a balancing act that I'm glad I don't have to deal with but people wanting a reporter to censor themselves makes it a bit easier. 

 

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11/30/2022 11:45am

I was a huge fan of WTS when Langston was there. Stopped listening after he left.
 

Ping acts like a spoiled pretentious rich kid who has never grown up. He cannot commit to a career, and he seems to be grasping g at straws to keep the WTS platform alive.

For a person who claims to be a “journalist” he sure screwed the pooch on this one. It seems with his connections he could have reached out to every party involved and got “a real” story. 

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11/30/2022 11:50am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 1:00pm

Speculating about rider contract moves is fine, and enjoyed by most fans. 
And if Kenny did refuse a WADA drug test, it should also be reported, but it 100% must be accurate and there is no room for speculation. Time will tell, if he refused a WADA test, he will not be lining up at A1 and will receive a ban.

to report that based on “heard from someone” is lazy, and lacks integrity. At least try to call Kenny or his camp, try to speak to someone who was there, speak to WSX guys etc. that’s shitty work Ping. 

To me, it sounded like Astaphen didn’t want him to do the test for a bunch of reasons, but he did it.

I wonder how Ping would have reacted in his racing days if a media outlet falsely reported he refused a drug test.

Ping has gone full dickhead now IMO with the way he responds to critics and followers, he has grown a very thin skin, and Astaphen handled that very unprofessionally also, he should just say what happened and leave it at that. 

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11/30/2022 11:55am

Well if Liver King isn’t natural then I don’t know up from down anymore 

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11/30/2022 11:55am Edited Date/Time 11/30/2022 11:55am
MO 23 wrote:
Speculating about rider contract moves is fine, and enjoyed by most fans.  And if Kenny did refuse a WADA drug test, it should also be reported...

Speculating about rider contract moves is fine, and enjoyed by most fans. 
And if Kenny did refuse a WADA drug test, it should also be reported, but it 100% must be accurate and there is no room for speculation. Time will tell, if he refused a WADA test, he will not be lining up at A1 and will receive a ban.

to report that based on “heard from someone” is lazy, and lacks integrity. At least try to call Kenny or his camp, try to speak to someone who was there, speak to WSX guys etc. that’s shitty work Ping. 

To me, it sounded like Astaphen didn’t want him to do the test for a bunch of reasons, but he did it.

I wonder how Ping would have reacted in his racing days if a media outlet falsely reported he refused a drug test.

Ping has gone full dickhead now IMO with the way he responds to critics and followers, he has grown a very thin skin, and Astaphen handled that very unprofessionally also, he should just say what happened and leave it at that. 

If Kenny did refuse an official WADA test, it would’ve been reported, and WADA would’ve issued sanctions.

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11/30/2022 12:09pm
burn1986 wrote:

If Kenny did refuse an official WADA test, it would’ve been reported, and WADA would’ve issued sanctions.

Exactly, Joey Savatgy would be WSX champion

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11/30/2022 12:15pm

Well if Liver King isn’t natural then I don’t know up from down anymore 

Proper diet and exercise. Hahahaha

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11/30/2022 12:33pm
WTF_M8 wrote:

See original post

"We've also been told" and "if true"

These are are key phrases and most seem to be missing them.

 

That’s all fun and games, but throwing out rumours of a rider doping/cheating should always be supported by facts and not speculation. 

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11/30/2022 12:46pm

Well if Liver King isn’t natural then I don’t know up from down anymore 

McG194 wrote:

Proper diet and exercise. Hahahaha

Don't forget about his 9 ancestral tenets.......lol

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11/30/2022 12:51pm
jstein639 wrote:
I hope there's something I don't know going on behind the scenes because it seems risky to jump off that Honda to step on the KTM...

I hope there's something I don't know going on behind the scenes because it seems risky to jump off that Honda to step on the KTM (especially when Sexton consistently showed elite 1 lap speed on the Honda last year).

motokiwi wrote:
If (when) Chase cant replicate his bursts of speed on the KTM - its gonna show what a pile of flexible junk it is compared the...

If (when) Chase cant replicate his bursts of speed on the KTM - its gonna show what a pile of flexible junk it is compared the the Honda

Considering Honda has 1 outdoor 450 championship in the US and no Supercross championships they might want to consider replicating the "pile of flexible junk" KTM has been winning on. I think the Kawi is also considered quite a bit more forgiving (flexible) than the Honda and it seems to win a lot of championships too.

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11/30/2022 12:51pm
str8line wrote:

Honda losing Kenny and possibly Chase is a surprise. Has Jett signed a contract recently with them? If not his asking price should go up.

His asking price been up.

11/30/2022 12:54pm
burn1986 wrote:

If Kenny did refuse an official WADA test, it would’ve been reported, and WADA would’ve issued sanctions.

Whos going to report it? Wada?

 

How long did it take them to report on Stewart or Tickle?

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I was a huge fan of WTS when Langston was there. Stopped listening after he left.   Ping acts like a spoiled pretentious rich kid who...

I was a huge fan of WTS when Langston was there. Stopped listening after he left.
 

Ping acts like a spoiled pretentious rich kid who has never grown up. He cannot commit to a career, and he seems to be grasping g at straws to keep the WTS platform alive.

For a person who claims to be a “journalist” he sure screwed the pooch on this one. It seems with his connections he could have reached out to every party involved and got “a real” story. 

Well if he did that there wouldn't be a 6 page thread on Vital in less than 12 hours, so I guess mission accomplished?

Looks like Ping is trying to grow his brand from just the WTS.  I don't think his little pre-race and post race shows have taken off so maybe this is his next try?  I'm sure it eats at him that the liberal Steve can be so successful so he's pulling out all the stops to take the king down

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11/30/2022 12:57pm

Well if Liver King isn’t natural then I don’t know up from down anymore 

McG194 wrote:

Proper diet and exercise. Hahahaha

jbrown15 wrote:

Don't forget about his 9 ancestral tenets.......lol

I think he sweats pure Winstrol.  

11/30/2022 1:02pm Edited Date/Time 12/1/2022 3:08pm
Regis wrote:
So….  After reading Astephens response doesn’t anyone else think he just verified what Whiskey throttle reported? His second sentence starts by saying “we refused because……. “...

So….  After reading Astephens response doesn’t anyone else think he just verified what Whiskey throttle reported?

His second sentence starts by saying “we refused because……. “ that confirms what was originally reported by Whiskey right? He refused.

I don’t see the issue here. 
 

I mean, in other sports teams make a player pass a physical before signing.  They can’t show up with another teams paperwork and say, “here ya go I’m good”.  
 

An OEM wanting a test and a refusal by a rider to do so sounds fishy. No matter who you are.

You talk too much sense for the folks on here. 
 

that’s exactly what he is confirming and throwing in the “ during the off season they aren’t as concerned” which basically sounds like, we didn’t take it just in case, but submitted to it once we were sure we were good. I don’t believe for a minute that Kenny is taking anything, but his agent was the king of contradiction with that first statement, I actually couldn’t believe what I was reading. I was pretty shocked his agent would  come out with a statement like that. 

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11/30/2022 1:03pm

I couldn't careless less about Roczen, Ping, or Roczens manager. The real story for me is Chase and Honda. They were unbelievably dialed in and gelling last year. If it wasn't for Eli it would have been one of the most boring seasons ever. Honda should be doing everything possible to keep Chase...reminds me of the time they let some guy with a #4 on his bike leave to ho to a new team. 

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11/30/2022 1:31pm
jstein639 wrote:
I hope there's something I don't know going on behind the scenes because it seems risky to jump off that Honda to step on the KTM...

I hope there's something I don't know going on behind the scenes because it seems risky to jump off that Honda to step on the KTM (especially when Sexton consistently showed elite 1 lap speed on the Honda last year).

motokiwi wrote:
If (when) Chase cant replicate his bursts of speed on the KTM - its gonna show what a pile of flexible junk it is compared the...

If (when) Chase cant replicate his bursts of speed on the KTM - its gonna show what a pile of flexible junk it is compared the the Honda

wrc777 wrote:
Considering Honda has 1 outdoor 450 championship in the US and no Supercross championships they might want to consider replicating the "pile of flexible junk" KTM...

Considering Honda has 1 outdoor 450 championship in the US and no Supercross championships they might want to consider replicating the "pile of flexible junk" KTM has been winning on. I think the Kawi is also considered quite a bit more forgiving (flexible) than the Honda and it seems to win a lot of championships too.

Then again they have been very close to winning both SX and outdoors so is the bike that bad ? No of course not, they have certainly won quite a few rounds. 

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I couldn't careless less about Roczen, Ping, or Roczens manager. The real story for me is Chase and Honda. They were unbelievably dialed in and gelling...

I couldn't careless less about Roczen, Ping, or Roczens manager. The real story for me is Chase and Honda. They were unbelievably dialed in and gelling last year. If it wasn't for Eli it would have been one of the most boring seasons ever. Honda should be doing everything possible to keep Chase...reminds me of the time they let some guy with a #4 on his bike leave to ho to a new team. 

KTM and Star had offers on table. I think Honda had option to match their offers but didnt. 

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11/30/2022 1:32pm

At the end of the day, It never looks good if you refuse a drug test, no matter what the reasons are.

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11/30/2022 1:35pm
I couldn't careless less about Roczen, Ping, or Roczens manager. The real story for me is Chase and Honda. They were unbelievably dialed in and gelling...

I couldn't careless less about Roczen, Ping, or Roczens manager. The real story for me is Chase and Honda. They were unbelievably dialed in and gelling last year. If it wasn't for Eli it would have been one of the most boring seasons ever. Honda should be doing everything possible to keep Chase...reminds me of the time they let some guy with a #4 on his bike leave to ho to a new team. 

tek14 wrote:

KTM and Star had offers on table. I think Honda had option to match their offers but didnt. 

Crazy. You think they would've learned their lesson with Ricky.

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11/30/2022 1:39pm
Lillefty27 wrote:
how long before Vital pulls this thread? They've pulled stuff regarding Ping before. Now since this is clearly a bad look for Ping and WTM, is...

how long before Vital pulls this thread? They've pulled stuff regarding Ping before. Now since this is clearly a bad look for Ping and WTM, is vital just gonna intentionally leave it up? (I'm not here to internet box, just playing devil's advocate).

SoCalMX70 wrote:

You may have missed some things. ML and Ping aren't on the friendliest terms currently.

ML512 wrote:
That’s an understatement. I clipped prior threads of someone who’s associated with his new site trying to spam their forum over here and other content from...

That’s an understatement.

I clipped prior threads of someone who’s associated with his new site trying to spam their forum over here and other content from his site. With the way a few things have gone I don’t feel the need to help promote his new venture and nothing requires us to. In his case, you make your bed and you sleep in it.

He took a few shots at us so his forum account was also suspended. There’s also an in-person interaction that I wasn’t too thrilled with…so here we are.

ML, I downvoted 'cause I'd love for you all to get along together, that is all! I'm a fan of Pulp / Matthes, Whisky Throttle / Ping, and Vital / ML512, as you all bring a ton of great info and content to us. Keep up the great work!

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11/30/2022 2:11pm
I couldn't careless less about Roczen, Ping, or Roczens manager. The real story for me is Chase and Honda. They were unbelievably dialed in and gelling...

I couldn't careless less about Roczen, Ping, or Roczens manager. The real story for me is Chase and Honda. They were unbelievably dialed in and gelling last year. If it wasn't for Eli it would have been one of the most boring seasons ever. Honda should be doing everything possible to keep Chase...reminds me of the time they let some guy with a #4 on his bike leave to ho to a new team. 

tek14 wrote:

KTM and Star had offers on table. I think Honda had option to match their offers but didnt. 

Crazy. You think they would've learned their lesson with Ricky.

Sexton is no Ricky

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11/30/2022 2:13pm

It wasn't too long ago when a certain GP journalist that used to post here was permanently banned for saying that Barca had signed with Yam to race GP's...that seems rather minor when you compare it to the clickbait journalists we have in Moto today...it's a sad state of affairs when these CB journalists feel that to succeed they have create sensational headlines of half truths and outright false statements to be relevant...

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11/30/2022 2:17pm
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I think a rider getting  off the track after 30 minutes at 180 bpm not breathing hard is a pretty solid indication.     I think riders...

I think a rider getting  off the track after 30 minutes at 180 bpm not breathing hard is a pretty solid indication. 
 

 I think riders that have used the same trainer having ibs, stomach problems,  and continues signs of food poisoning is a pretty solid indication. 

DunnySeat wrote:

So you're saying Tony Alessi was right all along? Shocking.

yak651 wrote:

Well with Uptite, only if it involves Aldon

Aldon wouldn’t be the only one who uses PEDs 

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