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biscuit11 8/9/2019 8:21am
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The mxon has been to the USA 3 times in the past 30 years. After next year it will have been to Ernee, the same track...
The mxon has been to the USA 3 times in the past 30 years. After next year it will have been to Ernee, the same track, 3 times in the past 15. The race has only left europe 4 times in the past 30 years. Thoughts?? Want my thoughts? I think the facts speak for themselves...
presto170 wrote:
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every...
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every separate country we have here. We’re all different, speak different languages etc etc. I’m English & I for sure will not be considering assen as a home mxon because it’s in the same continent as me, such dumb logic man.
Its not the ama riders fault that every country in europe is equivalent to the size of a state in our country. At some point when it sits at 26-3 europe vs usa on mxon events on traveling expenses and time someone is gonna step up and say something. This race is on the mxgp schedule not the ama schedule. The race has been in europe 26 of the past 30 years which is where mxgp is based, not the ama and its riders. Its clear as day man the race is 100% put on by and catered to the mxgp riders im not sure how you can even question that. The mxon organizers obviously have their own agenda, and i bet there is a whole lot more to all these riders skipping this than we know. Riders from all over the world who ride ama are skipping not just usa riders. Instead of crying they arent going maybe thinking of a logical reason why they arent would be a better idea? If you live in europe sure the mxon can be viewed as the race of all races cause its been there 26 of the past 30 years and is organized by the series that spends its whole year there. Things are different on this side of the world which is apparent in the lack of mxgp races in this country... the mxgp promoters would rather a 20 man gate in a construction site in some country that doesnt have any riders compete. Good for them when that is your agenda be prepared for the consequences which is the usa losing interest. I bet thats why there was a rumor we werent going at all. It is what it is brother.
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After next year Ernee, a track, will be up 3-1 vs the whole damn USA in mxon events over the past 15 years. If you dont get why many people in this country dont care about mxon then i guess we can agree to disagree. Europe 26 times and USA 3 give me a damn break.
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theprizefighter wrote:
Event was never about money. When you have manufactures and racers putting a money race before an opportunity to represent your country, that's big time loser...
Event was never about money. When you have manufactures and racers putting a money race before an opportunity to represent your country, that's big time loser material. I bet Jeff Ward agrees, too.
Dirty Points wrote:
I wonder if you can get Luongo to agree to terms that prove the event isn't about money.
Hah! Well played, Dirty Points.
feelit2morrow 8/9/2019 8:52am
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feelit2morrow wrote:
Gagging most of the reactions in that thread, I believe it would be the popular opinion about an unpopular opinion about MXoN. But what do I...
Gagging most of the reactions in that thread, I believe it would be the popular opinion about an unpopular opinion about MXoN.

But what do I know, I'm one of the unpopular opinions which goes against the popular opinion about the MXON.

Wait, what?
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Gauging, gargling, gigging, gagging, groaning, or gerrymandering. I meant one of those.. 😂

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A whole thread on meta-opinions. That's some sophisticated shit.
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What do you think if I tell you riders in my country put money from their skinny pockets to represent our flag in the MXON?

Really i can’t the understand why the best riders in the world refuse to participate
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Its the pinnacle of our sport , like the Olympics and the World Cup rolled into one and is the single most exciting weekend in whole...
Its the pinnacle of our sport , like the Olympics and the World Cup rolled into one and is the single most exciting weekend in whole year. Nothing comes close. The whole 'we had a busy year' shit , is just that. Shit. Remember back when Cooper Webb stepped up from 250, to do Nations , and also went to Japan to race.. thats how it should be . I am not a Webb fan, but he has my respect for stepping up when others were too 'busy' .. when guys lay down their lives for the flag, the least these well paid athletes can do is step up and stand under it when the time comes.
Fuck Kawasaki. Fans should let them know what they think, and vote with their $$ .
All the guys that stepped up when the prima donnas didnt deserve respect, regardless of the results.
Americans should go ride a dirt bike race overseas because soldiers died for their freedom!? Boycot a Japanese company because they aren't sending an American team? What a fucking cuckGrinning

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Fantastic event..... best of the year......

But its not apples vs apples anymore.........

USA rides two distinctly different series........ Euro, just one..... if its not an even playing field, why play at all?

Even now days would be- one race outdoors, one indoors........ Then I think you might see a little difference in the results... it is a LOT harder to be good at both SX and MX than just MX.........
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Whole lotta whingeing going on...the USA is still gonna send a team and it will be a very good team...the guys on that team will be fast and super motivated to win for their country, just like all the other guys on their respective teams...those that chose not to go for whatever reason...forget about em..they aren't relevant...they wont be there..focus on who will be there and the awesome race its likely gonna be..mxon is an awesome thing..I hope to go see one someday..
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PJRAUS wrote:
Whole lotta whingeing going on...the USA is still gonna send a team and it will be a very good team...the guys on that team will be...
Whole lotta whingeing going on...the USA is still gonna send a team and it will be a very good team...the guys on that team will be fast and super motivated to win for their country, just like all the other guys on their respective teams...those that chose not to go for whatever reason...forget about em..they aren't relevant...they wont be there..focus on who will be there and the awesome race its likely gonna be..mxon is an awesome thing..I hope to go see one someday..
My thoughts exactly!!! Let’s support the guys who are willing to go 100%.
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mx_563 8/9/2019 10:16am
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gt80rider wrote:
Fantastic event..... best of the year...... But its not apples vs apples anymore......... USA rides two distinctly different series........ Euro, just one..... if its not an...
Fantastic event..... best of the year......

But its not apples vs apples anymore.........

USA rides two distinctly different series........ Euro, just one..... if its not an even playing field, why play at all?

Even now days would be- one race outdoors, one indoors........ Then I think you might see a little difference in the results... it is a LOT harder to be good at both SX and MX than just MX.........
Playing devil's advocate here to some extent so don't bash me...

Who is responsible for the ever widening gap between how the sport is run stateside and how it is run in Europe (apples vs oranges argument)? The increase in focus on SX, the "every track is the same" deep ripping, the gnarly schedule, etc. The US is making its own bed, and has to sleep in it. The FIM is under no obligation to accommodate the riders of a particular country based on that particular country's "moto-idiosyncrasies". Australians aren't necessarily "used to" tracks in Europe, food in Europe, the European time zone, etc but they show up and don't complain. It's expensive AF for them too. Brazil shows up as well. How big is their budget?

I don't know, it seems that nothing is sacred anymore. If you can't make money at something, it's not worth doing. I get the schedule, and contract obligations (Monster Cup, etc) but IMO all of that is just money diluting the purity of the sport. Monster Energy is more important than national pride, so it seems.

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RichardLoots 8/9/2019 10:55am
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DonM wrote:
Both these threads are stupid....
biscuit11 wrote:
I agree. People need to quit crying about who wants to go and who doesnt cause its a pretty damn long list of ama guys that...
I agree. People need to quit crying about who wants to go and who doesnt cause its a pretty damn long list of ama guys that said no maybe thats the clue. Maybe, just maybe, they are more educated on making their decisions than people here are bashing them.
so stop crying ... you are the worst on here , every topic its same shit ... get out , have a coffee ..spoil the wife
presto170 8/9/2019 11:07am
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biscuit11 wrote:
The mxon has been to the USA 3 times in the past 30 years. After next year it will have been to Ernee, the same track...
The mxon has been to the USA 3 times in the past 30 years. After next year it will have been to Ernee, the same track, 3 times in the past 15. The race has only left europe 4 times in the past 30 years. Thoughts?? Want my thoughts? I think the facts speak for themselves...
presto170 wrote:
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every...
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every separate country we have here. We’re all different, speak different languages etc etc. I’m English & I for sure will not be considering assen as a home mxon because it’s in the same continent as me, such dumb logic man.
biscuit11 wrote:
Its not the ama riders fault that every country in europe is equivalent to the size of a state in our country. At some point when...
Its not the ama riders fault that every country in europe is equivalent to the size of a state in our country. At some point when it sits at 26-3 europe vs usa on mxon events on traveling expenses and time someone is gonna step up and say something. This race is on the mxgp schedule not the ama schedule. The race has been in europe 26 of the past 30 years which is where mxgp is based, not the ama and its riders. Its clear as day man the race is 100% put on by and catered to the mxgp riders im not sure how you can even question that. The mxon organizers obviously have their own agenda, and i bet there is a whole lot more to all these riders skipping this than we know. Riders from all over the world who ride ama are skipping not just usa riders. Instead of crying they arent going maybe thinking of a logical reason why they arent would be a better idea? If you live in europe sure the mxon can be viewed as the race of all races cause its been there 26 of the past 30 years and is organized by the series that spends its whole year there. Things are different on this side of the world which is apparent in the lack of mxgp races in this country... the mxgp promoters would rather a 20 man gate in a construction site in some country that doesnt have any riders compete. Good for them when that is your agenda be prepared for the consequences which is the usa losing interest. I bet thats why there was a rumor we werent going at all. It is what it is brother.
Let’s be honest you’re only loosing interest because you aren’t winning every year like you used to. I know for a fact that if you guys would have whooped everyone’s asses at redbud we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Also your opinion on Europe is so so so wrong it’s unreal, I invite you to come here & Experiance the countries & cultures and i guarantee your opinion will change. Forgive me for sounding rude here but have you even left your country before in your life? Genuine question
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jorgechavez 8/9/2019 11:31am
8/9/2019 11:31am
Can we please stop comparing this race to going to war to fight for your country? I mean I know it’s Vital but we’re not that dumb.
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Can we please stop comparing this race to going to war to fight for your country? I mean I know it’s Vital but we’re not that...
Can we please stop comparing this race to going to war to fight for your country? I mean I know it’s Vital but we’re not that dumb.
I'm not reading it like that at all... But I am reading it like the Olympics. Which EVERY country would like their best athlete's to participate in.
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Last Braaap wrote:
I'm starting to see some patterns. Is it usual for american people to play it way way waaay down when they see something and already know...
I'm starting to see some patterns.

Is it usual for american people to play it way way waaay down when they see something and already know that chances are too slim to shine?

"Yeah, we don't even care about MXoN."
"It's not that great of a race."
"SX is much bigger here." (God forbid MM25 or KR94 winning 450 title, idk what excuse will follow then)

If racing is only about winning then 39 guys are wasting their time behind the starting gate...
Haha! You broke out the deep sea fishing gear on this one... lol!
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biscuit11 8/9/2019 11:59am
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DonM wrote:
Both these threads are stupid....
biscuit11 wrote:
I agree. People need to quit crying about who wants to go and who doesnt cause its a pretty damn long list of ama guys that...
I agree. People need to quit crying about who wants to go and who doesnt cause its a pretty damn long list of ama guys that said no maybe thats the clue. Maybe, just maybe, they are more educated on making their decisions than people here are bashing them.
RichardLoots wrote:
so stop crying ... you are the worst on here , every topic its same shit ... get out , have a coffee ..spoil the wife
My favorite rider hasnt been hurt all year so no crying here. Just pointing out obvious facts that some people are incapable of understanding. This race is 100% mxgp oriented. This country is 100% ama oriented. Just like you guys watch soccer and we watch football. 26 of the last 30 mxons have been in the same small area of the globe. We have a series here with representation from all over the world so again that is why a lot of people here dont care about the mxon. Im glad you guys circle it on your calendar every year and worship the race i can see why when i watch half the mxgp venues on tv. No need to bash anyone for not wanting to go...
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biscuit11 8/9/2019 12:06pm
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presto170 wrote:
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every...
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every separate country we have here. We’re all different, speak different languages etc etc. I’m English & I for sure will not be considering assen as a home mxon because it’s in the same continent as me, such dumb logic man.
biscuit11 wrote:
Its not the ama riders fault that every country in europe is equivalent to the size of a state in our country. At some point when...
Its not the ama riders fault that every country in europe is equivalent to the size of a state in our country. At some point when it sits at 26-3 europe vs usa on mxon events on traveling expenses and time someone is gonna step up and say something. This race is on the mxgp schedule not the ama schedule. The race has been in europe 26 of the past 30 years which is where mxgp is based, not the ama and its riders. Its clear as day man the race is 100% put on by and catered to the mxgp riders im not sure how you can even question that. The mxon organizers obviously have their own agenda, and i bet there is a whole lot more to all these riders skipping this than we know. Riders from all over the world who ride ama are skipping not just usa riders. Instead of crying they arent going maybe thinking of a logical reason why they arent would be a better idea? If you live in europe sure the mxon can be viewed as the race of all races cause its been there 26 of the past 30 years and is organized by the series that spends its whole year there. Things are different on this side of the world which is apparent in the lack of mxgp races in this country... the mxgp promoters would rather a 20 man gate in a construction site in some country that doesnt have any riders compete. Good for them when that is your agenda be prepared for the consequences which is the usa losing interest. I bet thats why there was a rumor we werent going at all. It is what it is brother.
presto170 wrote:
Let’s be honest you’re only loosing interest because you aren’t winning every year like you used to. I know for a fact that if you guys...
Let’s be honest you’re only loosing interest because you aren’t winning every year like you used to. I know for a fact that if you guys would have whooped everyone’s asses at redbud we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Also your opinion on Europe is so so so wrong it’s unreal, I invite you to come here & Experiance the countries & cultures and i guarantee your opinion will change. Forgive me for sounding rude here but have you even left your country before in your life? Genuine question
MAYBE there would be more interest here if we could get some mxgp races on the calendar. The series doesnt want to come to our country yet our ama riders are expected to drop everything they are doing in their offseason to fall into the annual euro championship finale cause thats all it is when mxgp segregates its schedule away from the usa the way it has. I understand every country is different but in such close proximity europe makes up a smaller area than our whole country. So in reality the ama guys are actually the ones doing more traveling than the mxgp guys during the season. Time for them all to enjoy their offseason. After mxgp visits Indonesia multiple times i understand why the mxon is such a big event on the mxgp schedule. Fortunately we have nice facilities here and dont have that issue. Its bad enough that 26 of 30 mxon years have been in a smaller area than the usa, but then they put it on a staple track on the mxgp schedule in sand that the ama guys cant train for. What do you reasonably expect from dylan, marv, kenny, kawi??
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26 of 31 mxon in europe if i wanted to get technical. Why is the mxgp series so scarred to move the mxon to other areas on the globe or on track surfaces that are common on all parts of the globe? Seems to me they like keeping it all in house but some people find fault when others dont want to come participate. Its crazy when you sit back and think about it. Glad we have a first class series here that we dont have to anticipate this race as much as fans of mxgp. Many of the Americans who love the race are old schoolers and used to the way it used to be. Well unfortunately times change... maybe the organizers of the race can do their part to make it more friendly to all areas of the globe but from what i read everywhere the guy in charge would rather pad his pockets then put on a legit race. Again maybe why there were talks of no usa team at all. Its funny watching the keyboard warriors bash dudes about not going. Some people here understand why the ama guys arent wanting to go. Unfortunately some cant comprehend it mainly because of narrow mindedness and thinking from the mxgp side of the fence.
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Again, this is about money not pride. Money = millions$$$. Prima donnas make millions. You going to pay the prima donnas millions if they blow a...
Again, this is about money not pride.

Money = millions$$$.

Prima donnas make millions.

You going to pay the prima donnas millions if they blow a knee at MXoN? or straight rhythm?

Perspective.

Most pro sports don't allow outside activities in their athletes contracts and this includes flying, motorcycles etc.

MXoN is such an activity. Mammoth.

Even guys like Barcia, Bagget or other "top ten" finishers have a lot to lose at a boutique race. Losing things like factory

rides. Look at how devastating getting injured is while testing/practicing. Whole careers(potential millions) gone.

Ask David Bailey.
So what is the 'All Stars' NFL Game then ?

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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/08/09/365396/s1200_EFAE4034_8271_4735_B0E9_9153CC7F6739.jpg[/img] Maybe they are finally sick of the race rotating all over europe as a home race for mxgp riders on a surface we have no...



Maybe they are finally sick of the race rotating all over europe as a home race for mxgp riders on a surface we have no tracks here to replicate?? Its one thing to hog the race on your home soil but its another level when you put it on a track the riders here cant prepare for. Next time we get the mxon after europe has it 5 more times lets put it on a sx track and see what those guys say and do. Maybe Daytona?? 😁😁 Naa lets get some rhythm sections in there so we can really have some fun!!
So you have all that area to pull riders and budget from, and you are still whinging its not fair... look how small Holland is on there. Assuming you know which one it is.
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All it says is that you have die-hards fans and casual fans. Unfortunately there are not enough of either in MX/SX.
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biscuit11 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/08/09/365396/s1200_EFAE4034_8271_4735_B0E9_9153CC7F6739.jpg[/img] Maybe they are finally sick of the race rotating all over europe as a home race for mxgp riders on a surface we have no...



Maybe they are finally sick of the race rotating all over europe as a home race for mxgp riders on a surface we have no tracks here to replicate?? Its one thing to hog the race on your home soil but its another level when you put it on a track the riders here cant prepare for. Next time we get the mxon after europe has it 5 more times lets put it on a sx track and see what those guys say and do. Maybe Daytona?? 😁😁 Naa lets get some rhythm sections in there so we can really have some fun!!
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So you have all that area to pull riders and budget from, and you are still whinging its not fair... look how small Holland is on...
So you have all that area to pull riders and budget from, and you are still whinging its not fair... look how small Holland is on there. Assuming you know which one it is.
Wanna know something cool? See that little peninsula in the bottom right corner? Its called Florida. Just so you know riders from that 1 single state DOMINATED the mxon for years we didnt need the other 49 states. If it wasnt for RV an all Florida team would have ruled the world for years...
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feelit2morrow wrote:
Gagging most of the reactions in that thread, I believe it would be the popular opinion about an unpopular opinion about MXoN. But what do I...
Gagging most of the reactions in that thread, I believe it would be the popular opinion about an unpopular opinion about MXoN.

But what do I know, I'm one of the unpopular opinions which goes against the popular opinion about the MXON.

Wait, what?
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Take it easy on the gagging. We don’t want no creepy shit here.
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Wanna know something cool? See that little peninsula in the bottom right corner? Its called Florida. Just so you know riders from that 1 single state...
Wanna know something cool? See that little peninsula in the bottom right corner? Its called Florida. Just so you know riders from that 1 single state DOMINATED the mxon for years we didnt need the other 49 states. If it wasnt for RV an all Florida team would have ruled the world for years...
Yeah, they wernt too fucking tired to go were they ?

The Dutch team come from an area smaller than Orlando.. well the 2 that beat your 3 on your home soil.

The problem is that the USA dont like doing team sports that other countries do, you invent your own stuff. NFL, NBA, NHL, INDY CAR NASCAR... all stay at home sports ..

Its good that Zach Osborne gets it.. he wants to come , Anderson wants to come, Cooper is going to get to come and will most likely struggle , but he will come, you think Star Racing have money coming out of their ass..

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biscuit11 wrote:
Wanna know something cool? See that little peninsula in the bottom right corner? Its called Florida. Just so you know riders from that 1 single state...
Wanna know something cool? See that little peninsula in the bottom right corner? Its called Florida. Just so you know riders from that 1 single state DOMINATED the mxon for years we didnt need the other 49 states. If it wasnt for RV an all Florida team would have ruled the world for years...
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Yeah, they wernt too fucking tired to go were they ? The Dutch team come from an area smaller than Orlando.. well the 2 that beat...
Yeah, they wernt too fucking tired to go were they ?

The Dutch team come from an area smaller than Orlando.. well the 2 that beat your 3 on your home soil.

The problem is that the USA dont like doing team sports that other countries do, you invent your own stuff. NFL, NBA, NHL, INDY CAR NASCAR... all stay at home sports ..

Its good that Zach Osborne gets it.. he wants to come , Anderson wants to come, Cooper is going to get to come and will most likely struggle , but he will come, you think Star Racing have money coming out of their ass..

Inventing our own stuff is why the USA is at the forefront of innovation.
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TeamGreen 8/9/2019 5:11pm
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One Manufacturer seems to have some sort of “ummmm, yeah, ummmmm...we don’t wanna go...so, ummmmm, yeah...you can’t go.” thing going on.

And, really, WGAF & isn’t that their prerogative?

Me? Well, sure, it seems like Eli -and- AC are the “Best in Class” racers at the Nationals...in 2019.
But...the bike? Well, it seems to me that they don’t have that bike EXACTLY where they want it.

If you think I’m calling the KX450 a “bad bike” or the like...uh, no. Go see my comments from the Vital 2019 450 Shootout!

But, it IS a new bike & the Team DOES have some work to do from what I can see.

Also...KMC, USA has been sooooo close to a coupl’a 450 SX championships and I’ll bet they’re kinda pissed about that. They might wanna stay home and get to work on the 2020 championship INCLUDING making a stellar appearance and a WINNING performance at their title sponsors HOME Invitational Race...oh, btw...
Do ya think Monster has a say in all of this?
I do.
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ATKpilot99 8/9/2019 5:15pm
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biscuit11 wrote:
Wanna know something cool? See that little peninsula in the bottom right corner? Its called Florida. Just so you know riders from that 1 single state...
Wanna know something cool? See that little peninsula in the bottom right corner? Its called Florida. Just so you know riders from that 1 single state DOMINATED the mxon for years we didnt need the other 49 states. If it wasnt for RV an all Florida team would have ruled the world for years...
philG wrote:
Yeah, they wernt too fucking tired to go were they ? The Dutch team come from an area smaller than Orlando.. well the 2 that beat...
Yeah, they wernt too fucking tired to go were they ?

The Dutch team come from an area smaller than Orlando.. well the 2 that beat your 3 on your home soil.

The problem is that the USA dont like doing team sports that other countries do, you invent your own stuff. NFL, NBA, NHL, INDY CAR NASCAR... all stay at home sports ..

Its good that Zach Osborne gets it.. he wants to come , Anderson wants to come, Cooper is going to get to come and will most likely struggle , but he will come, you think Star Racing have money coming out of their ass..

You're always going on about American invented sports...Hockey began in Canada btw and has become an international team sport. Basketball is now an international sport also and both have been around longer than motocross. Does a sport "invented" on the European continent somehow carry more weight in your eyes ?
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TexasVet wrote:
Again, this is about money not pride. Money = millions$$$. Prima donnas make millions. You going to pay the prima donnas millions if they blow a...
Again, this is about money not pride.

Money = millions$$$.

Prima donnas make millions.

You going to pay the prima donnas millions if they blow a knee at MXoN? or straight rhythm?

Perspective.

Most pro sports don't allow outside activities in their athletes contracts and this includes flying, motorcycles etc.

MXoN is such an activity. Mammoth.

Even guys like Barcia, Bagget or other "top ten" finishers have a lot to lose at a boutique race. Losing things like factory

rides. Look at how devastating getting injured is while testing/practicing. Whole careers(potential millions) gone.

Ask David Bailey.
philG wrote:
So what is the 'All Stars' NFL Game then ?

It’s called the Pro Bowl. If the NFL or Premier League managed the MXoN it would truly be a supreme event. Instead, your chosen bedfellow is Luongo. It’s really comical watching the nationalistic fanaticism and hate for all things American force you and your pals to defend Giuseppe Luongo.
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biscuit11 wrote:
The mxon has been to the USA 3 times in the past 30 years. After next year it will have been to Ernee, the same track...
The mxon has been to the USA 3 times in the past 30 years. After next year it will have been to Ernee, the same track, 3 times in the past 15. The race has only left europe 4 times in the past 30 years. Thoughts?? Want my thoughts? I think the facts speak for themselves...
presto170 wrote:
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every...
Stop classing the whole of Europe as the same place I beg you. Just because your country is big doesn’t mean it’s more important than every separate country we have here. We’re all different, speak different languages etc etc. I’m English & I for sure will not be considering assen as a home mxon because it’s in the same continent as me, such dumb logic man.
biscuit11 wrote:
Its not the ama riders fault that every country in europe is equivalent to the size of a state in our country. At some point when...
Its not the ama riders fault that every country in europe is equivalent to the size of a state in our country. At some point when it sits at 26-3 europe vs usa on mxon events on traveling expenses and time someone is gonna step up and say something. This race is on the mxgp schedule not the ama schedule. The race has been in europe 26 of the past 30 years which is where mxgp is based, not the ama and its riders. Its clear as day man the race is 100% put on by and catered to the mxgp riders im not sure how you can even question that. The mxon organizers obviously have their own agenda, and i bet there is a whole lot more to all these riders skipping this than we know. Riders from all over the world who ride ama are skipping not just usa riders. Instead of crying they arent going maybe thinking of a logical reason why they arent would be a better idea? If you live in europe sure the mxon can be viewed as the race of all races cause its been there 26 of the past 30 years and is organized by the series that spends its whole year there. Things are different on this side of the world which is apparent in the lack of mxgp races in this country... the mxgp promoters would rather a 20 man gate in a construction site in some country that doesnt have any riders compete. Good for them when that is your agenda be prepared for the consequences which is the usa losing interest. I bet thats why there was a rumor we werent going at all. It is what it is brother.
I call BS, New Zealand, Australia still turn up without a grumble, just pure pride to be representing their respective countries.
And look how far they travel. Any MXoN event held in either of these two countries would be totally epic. The turn out of spectators in Taupo just to see SE72 ride was unbelievable.
The problem with the US is the amount of people they take to the event.
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