LUCAS GONNA BE A PROBLEM AT SOUTHWICK!!

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DonJulio wrote:

Jett will 1-1. Hunter just lit a fire under his ass 

Jett sounded genuinely dejected in his post race interviews about his leg. He was putting alot of weight on it (figuratively/literally) on why he could not be at his best. He's a proven phenom as a rookie undefeated season so I don't believe he is giving excuses.  

Sand will be more demanding at Southwick even if not Lommel. I want him to be in the hunt but just can't see it late in the moto under those conditions. 

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Great racing with best in the world will never be a problem for me anyway 

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TeamGreen wrote:
I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.Jett has...

I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.

Jett has been pretty damn smart about managing his speed as he heals…as he recovers…a VERY busted up ankle. That’s an amazing feat for any athlete.

The Brothers KTM Europa should be VERY “in it” at The Wick. The combination of sand and ruts should work out very nicely for them.

Then there’s Deegan: the kid needs to work on those starts. And finishing 20+ seconds back is not a good look. On the other hand, he sure as hell put in a serious fight to get back in the game at Red Bud in Moto 1.

I don’t know if anyone-else noticed…? But, other Euro’s on Triumphs and KTMs and even Dylan on his Ducati are messing around with the Top 10…and flirting with the Top 5. Go take another look at those Red Bud results.

The Wick should be one of the best races of the year. 

What do you think Deegs is gonna do if he “gets a start” that he couldn’t do in moto 2 yesterday?

Deegs will once again be Top American.

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If Deegs gets a start he will be in the top five. Not bad for a rookie.

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He gets lapped this weekend. Theyre probably already lining up a circus deal for him.

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We know that isn't true.  He isn't the best but he doesn't suck.  If he doesn't crash he'll be in the top 5.  That is the...

We know that isn't true.  He isn't the best but he doesn't suck.  If he doesn't crash he'll be in the top 5.  That is the cat bird seat if the guys in front have some bad luck.  He's a turd but a darn fast turd.

I also think Jett is no where near healed up yet.  That's really a testament to his talent.  

I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. 

Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for the top 4 at that track, add in RJ who was pretty close to him in the 2nd moto last week after starting behind him, and some sand specialists like Haarup and Van De Moosdijk I could see him getting straight up beat by 5 or more riders this weekend.

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Motodude wrote:

He gets lapped this weekend. Theyre probably already lining up a circus deal for him.

plowboy wrote:
We know that isn't true.  He isn't the best but he doesn't suck.  If he doesn't crash he'll be in the top 5.  That is the...

We know that isn't true.  He isn't the best but he doesn't suck.  If he doesn't crash he'll be in the top 5.  That is the cat bird seat if the guys in front have some bad luck.  He's a turd but a darn fast turd.

I also think Jett is no where near healed up yet.  That's really a testament to his talent.  

Juck wrote:
I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for...

I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. 

Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for the top 4 at that track, add in RJ who was pretty close to him in the 2nd moto last week after starting behind him, and some sand specialists like Haarup and Van De Moosdijk I could see him getting straight up beat by 5 or more riders this weekend.

Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's no way anybody else beats him. He was like 3 seconds a lap faster than everybody else last year

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I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.Jett has...

I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.

Jett has been pretty damn smart about managing his speed as he heals…as he recovers…a VERY busted up ankle. That’s an amazing feat for any athlete.

The Brothers KTM Europa should be VERY “in it” at The Wick. The combination of sand and ruts should work out very nicely for them.

Then there’s Deegan: the kid needs to work on those starts. And finishing 20+ seconds back is not a good look. On the other hand, he sure as hell put in a serious fight to get back in the game at Red Bud in Moto 1.

I don’t know if anyone-else noticed…? But, other Euro’s on Triumphs and KTMs and even Dylan on his Ducati are messing around with the Top 10…and flirting with the Top 5. Go take another look at those Red Bud results.

The Wick should be one of the best races of the year. 

What do you think Deegs is gonna do if he “gets a start” that he couldn’t do in moto 2 yesterday?

captmoto wrote:

Deegs will once again be Top American.

That's not so difficult these days 

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What do you think Deegs is gonna do if he “gets a start” that he couldn’t do in moto 2 yesterday?

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2nd in the 2nd moto lol. Prado gapped him and Hunter chased him down and beat him by 20 seconds. But wait until he gets a...

2nd in the 2nd moto lol. Prado gapped him and Hunter chased him down and beat him by 20 seconds. But wait until he gets a start. 

And the week before Deegan chased down Prado and gapped him. On average, Deegan has performed better than Prado even with Prado's consistent starts. 

As dominate as Deegan was on a 250, he has yet to win a MOTO at Redbud. So yesterday is not all that surprising for him. 

 

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Dowd 4-5, top American…

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plowboy wrote:
We know that isn't true.  He isn't the best but he doesn't suck.  If he doesn't crash he'll be in the top 5.  That is the...

We know that isn't true.  He isn't the best but he doesn't suck.  If he doesn't crash he'll be in the top 5.  That is the cat bird seat if the guys in front have some bad luck.  He's a turd but a darn fast turd.

I also think Jett is no where near healed up yet.  That's really a testament to his talent.  

Juck wrote:
I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for...

I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. 

Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for the top 4 at that track, add in RJ who was pretty close to him in the 2nd moto last week after starting behind him, and some sand specialists like Haarup and Van De Moosdijk I could see him getting straight up beat by 5 or more riders this weekend.

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Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's...

Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's no way anybody else beats him. He was like 3 seconds a lap faster than everybody else last year

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

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I don't think anyone, will have anything for Coenens this weekend. Of course Sacha need to stay upright.

But anyone who watched Lucas and Herlings put 1min on the rest of the field a few weeks ago in sand race understands this will be Coenens show. 

Shit can go sideways quickly in sand, I can't see Hunter throwing it away trying to chase down Lucas. Prado might go for it but seems he need to catch up on race pace stamina at the front. 

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I think it will be the best racing in the world. Jett, Lucas, Hunter, Jorge, and yes, Deegs. Toss in some Cairoli for a cherry on top. Next season SMX is shaping up nicely!

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Yes, he's something else. If he gets a top 5 or even a top 10 start, I can't see anyone beating him. 

 

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I don't think anyone, will have anything for Coenens this weekend. Of course Sacha need to stay upright.But anyone who watched Lucas and Herlings put 1min...

I don't think anyone, will have anything for Coenens this weekend. Of course Sacha need to stay upright.

But anyone who watched Lucas and Herlings put 1min on the rest of the field a few weeks ago in sand race understands this will be Coenens show. 

Shit can go sideways quickly in sand, I can't see Hunter throwing it away trying to chase down Lucas. Prado might go for it but seems he need to catch up on race pace stamina at the front. 

I agree and don’t think many on here have been watching Lucas that much; especially on any sand track!! Lots of people gonna be in For an eye opener IMO!!

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Juck wrote:
I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for...

I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. 

Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for the top 4 at that track, add in RJ who was pretty close to him in the 2nd moto last week after starting behind him, and some sand specialists like Haarup and Van De Moosdijk I could see him getting straight up beat by 5 or more riders this weekend.

crusty_xx wrote:
Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's...

Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's no way anybody else beats him. He was like 3 seconds a lap faster than everybody else last year

ando wrote:
I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.Van de Moosdijk just came...

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

why not? He's beating the same guys as he did in 250s. If you take out the 3 guys that are currently better than him then he's leading points over RJ and Marchbanks. Last year it was Jo and Marchbanks.
Roan is gonna be good but he has one single top 10 in mxgp in his entire career, including sand races

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crusty_xx wrote:
Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's...

Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's no way anybody else beats him. He was like 3 seconds a lap faster than everybody else last year

ando wrote:
I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.Van de Moosdijk just came...

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

crusty_xx wrote:
why not? He's beating the same guys as he did in 250s. If you take out the 3 guys that are currently better than him then...

why not? He's beating the same guys as he did in 250s. If you take out the 3 guys that are currently better than him then he's leading points over RJ and Marchbanks. Last year it was Jo and Marchbanks.
Roan is gonna be good but he has one single top 10 in mxgp in his entire career, including sand races

I think that’s Ando’s point; Deegan got 10th after coming through from the back in moto 1 while fresh and on a factory bike, while Roan got a similar result from the back in moto 2 on a bike with a stock engine. 
Meanwhile one guy’s a ‘star’ and the other’s a ‘no one’. Which result is more impressive?

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ando wrote:
I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.Van de Moosdijk just came...

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

crusty_xx wrote:
why not? He's beating the same guys as he did in 250s. If you take out the 3 guys that are currently better than him then...

why not? He's beating the same guys as he did in 250s. If you take out the 3 guys that are currently better than him then he's leading points over RJ and Marchbanks. Last year it was Jo and Marchbanks.
Roan is gonna be good but he has one single top 10 in mxgp in his entire career, including sand races

CPR wrote:
I think that’s Ando’s point; Deegan got 10th after coming through from the back in moto 1 while fresh and on a factory bike, while Roan...

I think that’s Ando’s point; Deegan got 10th after coming through from the back in moto 1 while fresh and on a factory bike, while Roan got a similar result from the back in moto 2 on a bike with a stock engine. 
Meanwhile one guy’s a ‘star’ and the other’s a ‘no one’. Which result is more impressive?

Obviously not deegs. Kid could cure cancer and vital would still find a way to shit on him. 

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ando wrote:
I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.Van de Moosdijk just came...

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

crusty_xx wrote:
why not? He's beating the same guys as he did in 250s. If you take out the 3 guys that are currently better than him then...

why not? He's beating the same guys as he did in 250s. If you take out the 3 guys that are currently better than him then he's leading points over RJ and Marchbanks. Last year it was Jo and Marchbanks.
Roan is gonna be good but he has one single top 10 in mxgp in his entire career, including sand races

CPR wrote:
I think that’s Ando’s point; Deegan got 10th after coming through from the back in moto 1 while fresh and on a factory bike, while Roan...

I think that’s Ando’s point; Deegan got 10th after coming through from the back in moto 1 while fresh and on a factory bike, while Roan got a similar result from the back in moto 2 on a bike with a stock engine. 
Meanwhile one guy’s a ‘star’ and the other’s a ‘no one’. Which result is more impressive?

Yeah not sure what happened there. Maybe bent bike or something. He was very slow to start the moto, I thought he was gonna pull off. Took like half a minute to even get back on the bike. Was still outside the top 30 after 4 laps (that's 1/4 of the race done). I guess if he rides like the first 25% of moto 1 then he's not even top 10 at Southwick. Will that happen again? probably not

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The way Hunter is riding, I'm not going to rule him out 

Can't see prado winning, around 3rd 

Lucas, top 2 

Sacha 2nd / 3rd 

Deegs, don't know what he's like in sand, but at a guess 3rd or 4th 

Jett, again, not 100% but that levels the field 

Shall be interesting either way 

 

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ando wrote:
I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.Van de Moosdijk just came...

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

Good catch. It was actually 35 (or further back) to 10th.

Pretty crazy.

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We’re seeing Jett deal with something he hasn’t had to before, his training partner being faster than him. Will be interesting to see how he works...

We’re seeing Jett deal with something he hasn’t had to before, his training partner being faster than him. Will be interesting to see how he works through it. 

Nah I say he is dealing with Hunter running their normal pace which he can’t quite reach YET….

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ando wrote:
I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.Van de Moosdijk just came...

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

Jabe wrote:

Good catch. It was actually 35 (or further back) to 10th.

Pretty crazy.

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TeamGreen wrote:
I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.Jett has...

I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.

Jett has been pretty damn smart about managing his speed as he heals…as he recovers…a VERY busted up ankle. That’s an amazing feat for any athlete.

The Brothers KTM Europa should be VERY “in it” at The Wick. The combination of sand and ruts should work out very nicely for them.

Then there’s Deegan: the kid needs to work on those starts. And finishing 20+ seconds back is not a good look. On the other hand, he sure as hell put in a serious fight to get back in the game at Red Bud in Moto 1.

I don’t know if anyone-else noticed…? But, other Euro’s on Triumphs and KTMs and even Dylan on his Ducati are messing around with the Top 10…and flirting with the Top 5. Go take another look at those Red Bud results.

The Wick should be one of the best races of the year. 

I don't know that Hunter's level has changed. It's obvious that Jett's has, though. Deegz, at this point, stands a better chance of finishing 5th or worse than he does of 3rd or better. This week, anyway. jmo

The "level",,, hasn't really changed. With bikes or riders. Again, jmo. But it's pretty obvious that an 8 year old bike is competitive. As well as 30+ year old riders. To the point that IF I were a betting man, I'd say Tony 'daTiger' Cairoli finishes within a spot or two of being closer to Deegz than the Deegz does to the top of the box... 40 years old in the top ten is WAY more impressive to me than Deegz getting 4th or 5th. And yeah, I'm much too old to care if the whole moto world roosts the goggles off of me. Flame away, all you nut huggers! Typed with as much BobbyM attitude as I could muster.

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The way Hunter is riding, I'm not going to rule him out Can't see prado winning, around 3rd Lucas, top 2 Sacha 2nd / 3rd Deegs, don't know what he's...

The way Hunter is riding, I'm not going to rule him out 

Can't see prado winning, around 3rd 

Lucas, top 2 

Sacha 2nd / 3rd 

Deegs, don't know what he's like in sand, but at a guess 3rd or 4th 

Jett, again, not 100% but that levels the field 

Shall be interesting either way 

 

Interesting that you say Sasha will be 2nd or 3rd. Will that result be because Sasha will crash or someone will beat him?

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Healthy Jett beats anyone on 99% of tracks but he isn't healthy so im going Gjoerge Prado. Dude was actually holding Eli off at Southwick on a bike he hated last year and I think he qualified first?? Lucas is good and might win but I think Prado is hungry and motivated to get a W. Yes Hunter is fully capable of winning but I have a feeling about the 26 being keen to show his sand skill and the KTM Chassis works well in that terrain.

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TeamGreen wrote:
I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.Jett has...

I’m not gonna be surprised if Jorge gets in…and stays in…the mix at The Wick. Also, let’s acknowledge that Hunter is at a new level.

Jett has been pretty damn smart about managing his speed as he heals…as he recovers…a VERY busted up ankle. That’s an amazing feat for any athlete.

The Brothers KTM Europa should be VERY “in it” at The Wick. The combination of sand and ruts should work out very nicely for them.

Then there’s Deegan: the kid needs to work on those starts. And finishing 20+ seconds back is not a good look. On the other hand, he sure as hell put in a serious fight to get back in the game at Red Bud in Moto 1.

I don’t know if anyone-else noticed…? But, other Euro’s on Triumphs and KTMs and even Dylan on his Ducati are messing around with the Top 10…and flirting with the Top 5. Go take another look at those Red Bud results.

The Wick should be one of the best races of the year. 

I don't know that Hunter's level has changed. It's obvious that Jett's has, though. Deegz, at this point, stands a better chance of finishing 5th or...

I don't know that Hunter's level has changed. It's obvious that Jett's has, though. Deegz, at this point, stands a better chance of finishing 5th or worse than he does of 3rd or better. This week, anyway. jmo

The "level",,, hasn't really changed. With bikes or riders. Again, jmo. But it's pretty obvious that an 8 year old bike is competitive. As well as 30+ year old riders. To the point that IF I were a betting man, I'd say Tony 'daTiger' Cairoli finishes within a spot or two of being closer to Deegz than the Deegz does to the top of the box... 40 years old in the top ten is WAY more impressive to me than Deegz getting 4th or 5th. And yeah, I'm much too old to care if the whole moto world roosts the goggles off of me. Flame away, all you nut huggers! Typed with as much BobbyM attitude as I could muster.

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Bobby M reference. Nice. 💪🏼😎

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Interesting that you say Sasha will be 2nd or 3rd. Will that result be because Sasha will crash or someone will beat him?

There is no way he isnt tipping off in at least 1 race. 

And Prado will never get through the lappers at Southwick.  

Its not something he has really ever had to deal with much. MXGP slow guys are way faster, and way more switched on than AMA guys.   To me it underlines why 'full gates' are only a good thing, if the guys are actually fast enough in the first place. 

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The way Hunter is riding, I'm not going to rule him out Can't see prado winning, around 3rd Lucas, top 2 Sacha 2nd / 3rd Deegs, don't know what he's...

The way Hunter is riding, I'm not going to rule him out 

Can't see prado winning, around 3rd 

Lucas, top 2 

Sacha 2nd / 3rd 

Deegs, don't know what he's like in sand, but at a guess 3rd or 4th 

Jett, again, not 100% but that levels the field 

Shall be interesting either way 

 

Interesting that you say Sasha will be 2nd or 3rd. Will that result be because Sasha will crash or someone will beat him?

Just looking at it from a methodical point of view 

1, competition 

2, he usually has a tip over or worse 

3,he's not on his GP bike 

4.his mx2 lead is slender 

But who knows, he could goes balls out, which is what we love about him 

 

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Juck wrote:
I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for...

I wouldn't say he's for sure in the top 5 at Southwick if he doesn't crash. 

Lucas, Jett, Hunter, and Prado are pretty much a lock for the top 4 at that track, add in RJ who was pretty close to him in the 2nd moto last week after starting behind him, and some sand specialists like Haarup and Van De Moosdijk I could see him getting straight up beat by 5 or more riders this weekend.

crusty_xx wrote:
Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's...

Deegan is also good in the sand. I dont think he beats the lawrences or Lucas and I could also see Prado beat him. But there's no way anybody else beats him. He was like 3 seconds a lap faster than everybody else last year

ando wrote:
I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.Van de Moosdijk just came...

I think by now there’s enough evidence that we can’t correlate anything Deegan did in the 250 class to the 450 class.

Van de Moosdijk just came from 33rd to 10th on a stock 450 and he’s a sand specialist.  

Relax, Roan is not going to beat Deegs straight up. Sure, hes from Netherlands, but per his results, he doesnt really do any better at sand tracks. In fact, his best results have come from hard pack tracks. 

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Obviously not deegs. Kid could cure cancer and vital would still find a way to shit on him. 

I don't think he can cure his snotty nose.

 

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1.lucas

2.hunter

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