Chase sexton ghost ride bike in kawi pits hitting Marchbanks

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Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

It's about respecting the guys on your team.  You can go out back and throw your helmet if you have to. But never throw the bike.

How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? 

Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds like some people think he had the entire team lined up like bowling pins and aimed the bike 3rd gear at them. I imagine him stepping off as he went under the tent (not that it’s ok to do that either). 

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CPR wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

Probably, dude.

That's like the taking a dump on your Mother-in-law's Thanksgiving turkey of workplace race-team etiquette.

Half the people there were up late slaving proudly sleepless hours building that bike. And everyone else is just trying to chill, be friendly, get ready for the next race, and weren't anticipating the possibility of being hit by a tantrum-powered green missile.

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CPR wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

It's about respecting the guys on your team.  You can go out back and throw your helmet if you have to. But never throw the bike.

Renner153 wrote:
How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds...

How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? 

Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds like some people think he had the entire team lined up like bowling pins and aimed the bike 3rd gear at them. I imagine him stepping off as he went under the tent (not that it’s ok to do that either). 

Well per the guys who saw it the bike almost hit GM and he was pissed off about it. 

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CPR wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

Kicking stuff, breaking minor items etc when angry is still poor behaviour and if an employee/contractor did that in my workplace they’d be fronting up for a please explain.

Ghost riding a bike into a pit area is escalating that to a different level and deserves an appropriately escalated response.  Worse still if it was done publicly and (reportedly) nearly hit other people.

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Windhamfan wrote:

Would have been epic if Marchbanks passed him in Moto 2

I think Marchbanks slowed down in order to not pass his teammate.

He was moving through the pack pretty well, then stopped moving forward once he caught Chase.

If he's able, he should pass him.  It's not disrespect. 

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Also I’ll add that it’s indicative of a person who is unable to control their emotions appropriately.

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CPR wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

It's about respecting the guys on your team.  You can go out back and throw your helmet if you have to. But never throw the bike.

Renner153 wrote:
How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds...

How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? 

Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds like some people think he had the entire team lined up like bowling pins and aimed the bike 3rd gear at them. I imagine him stepping off as he went under the tent (not that it’s ok to do that either). 

I’d rather my guy throw his helmet then ghost ride the bike into the damn pits lol you serious? Rango has to fix the bars, levers, and check on whatever else over him just grabbing a different helmet out of his bag, cmon now 

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CPR wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

It's about respecting the guys on your team.  You can go out back and throw your helmet if you have to. But never throw the bike.

Renner153 wrote:
How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds...

How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? 

Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds like some people think he had the entire team lined up like bowling pins and aimed the bike 3rd gear at them. I imagine him stepping off as he went under the tent (not that it’s ok to do that either). 

You're better than this

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ML512 wrote:

Team members confirmed it happened…

Well, if the teams let’s that slide without consequences, it is on them for what they wind up with. Kind of behavior I expect out of a 5 year old,throwing a temper tantrum. 

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CPR wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

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Kicking stuff, breaking minor items etc when angry is still poor behaviour and if an employee/contractor did that in my workplace they’d be fronting up for...

Kicking stuff, breaking minor items etc when angry is still poor behaviour and if an employee/contractor did that in my workplace they’d be fronting up for a please explain.

Ghost riding a bike into a pit area is escalating that to a different level and deserves an appropriately escalated response.  Worse still if it was done publicly and (reportedly) nearly hit other people.

Yes, it's completely unacceptable. There are very often young kids in the team pit areas. Not too mention everyone else hanging out there.

If Chase want's to throw his handbag and panties around he should do it in his motorhome...with his useless no-nothing dad...

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Well, as of Sunday evening…we’ve got 108:2 for my “Chase, you’re fired!” ratio. 

Hey, Dan? DO IT! 

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Team members confirmed it happened…

dkg wrote:
Well, if the teams let’s that slide without consequences, it is on them for what they wind up with. Kind of behavior I expect out of...

Well, if the teams let’s that slide without consequences, it is on them for what they wind up with. Kind of behavior I expect out of a 5 year old,throwing a temper tantrum. 

Not saying anyone part of Team Kawi would do it but I could see where  a rider acting like that could set themself up for some sort of retaliatory sabotage from a disrespected/disgruntled team member.  Then you have real safety issues.

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If the workplace is that toxic then its time to go. It's just not going to get any better at this point. 

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It's about respecting the guys on your team.  You can go out back and throw your helmet if you have to. But never throw the bike.

Renner153 wrote:
How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds...

How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? 

Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds like some people think he had the entire team lined up like bowling pins and aimed the bike 3rd gear at them. I imagine him stepping off as he went under the tent (not that it’s ok to do that either). 

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I’d rather my guy throw his helmet then ghost ride the bike into the damn pits lol you serious? Rango has to fix the bars, levers...

I’d rather my guy throw his helmet then ghost ride the bike into the damn pits lol you serious? Rango has to fix the bars, levers, and check on whatever else over him just grabbing a different helmet out of his bag, cmon now 

Personally, you shouldn’t do either. But you can’t be serious and say it’s better because Rango has to change a pair of bars and levers as opposed to alpinestars having to replace a helmet. You think it’s ok to disrespect one and not the other?  Get lost with that. Go in your hauler a punch yourself else in the leg over destroying someone else’s work. As a person that sponsors many teams around the world with product, I would be pissed if I saw a rider do it to my product, idc if I just give him seat cover and graphics. 

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If the team decided to fine him, I doubt that we would hear anything about it.

And yes, we all agree that he’s a head case, but Kawi knows there is no replacement out there for his speed.  They are going to continue to try to work it out in my opinion.

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They should fire him, but that is probably what he wants. 

How the fuck do you have a meltdown about the bike after moto 1, then go out and get 4th in moto 2? What a head case. 

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Renner153 wrote:
How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds...

How is throwing your helmet any better? You think alpinestars would be ok with that? 

Also, does anyone know what ghost riding his bike actually meant? Sounds like some people think he had the entire team lined up like bowling pins and aimed the bike 3rd gear at them. I imagine him stepping off as he went under the tent (not that it’s ok to do that either). 

ohh_454 wrote:
I’d rather my guy throw his helmet then ghost ride the bike into the damn pits lol you serious? Rango has to fix the bars, levers...

I’d rather my guy throw his helmet then ghost ride the bike into the damn pits lol you serious? Rango has to fix the bars, levers, and check on whatever else over him just grabbing a different helmet out of his bag, cmon now 

Renner153 wrote:
Personally, you shouldn’t do either. But you can’t be serious and say it’s better because Rango has to change a pair of bars and levers as...

Personally, you shouldn’t do either. But you can’t be serious and say it’s better because Rango has to change a pair of bars and levers as opposed to alpinestars having to replace a helmet. You think it’s ok to disrespect one and not the other?  Get lost with that. Go in your hauler a punch yourself else in the leg over destroying someone else’s work. As a person that sponsors many teams around the world with product, I would be pissed if I saw a rider do it to my product, idc if I just give him seat cover and graphics. 

I to have helped out riders with product and don't want to see it disrespected.  I worded it wrong,  Let me try again. "IF YOU MUST"....Go out back or somewhere private to have your little tantrum. Don't throw the bike!!

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He just rides very over the front and it forces him to chase a setup that can’t be obtained. He needs to spend some serious time...

He just rides very over the front and it forces him to chase a setup that can’t be obtained. He needs to spend some serious time changing his technique and position on the bike

Exactly this.Accusing him of being a headcase is about the most intellectually lazy comment you can make.No one gets to this level by being a headcase...

Exactly this.

Accusing him of being a headcase is about the most intellectually lazy comment you can make.

No one gets to this level by being a headcase. He’s not out there thinking about fishing.

His riding style bites him every single time. 

Weak brains get weeded out in amateurs.

Bullshit you know how many professional athletes are head cases . It would shock you 

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They should fire him, but that is probably what he wants. How the fuck do you have a meltdown about the bike after moto 1, then go...

They should fire him, but that is probably what he wants. 

How the fuck do you have a meltdown about the bike after moto 1, then go out and get 4th in moto 2? What a head case. 

It seems most likely, but how do we know it was about the bike?

Maybe he was just frustrated at crashing.

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Why are a lot of people so negative about Chase's dad?

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I to have helped out riders with product and don't want to see it disrespected.  I worded it wrong,  Let me try again. "IF YOU MUST"....Go...

I to have helped out riders with product and don't want to see it disrespected.  I worded it wrong,  Let me try again. "IF YOU MUST"....Go out back or somewhere private to have your little tantrum. Don't throw the bike!!

Didn't Hurricane Bob Hannah ride off into the woods after the "let broc Bye" finish?

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We all wonder what happened to the heir apparent Sexton of 2022 who battled a veteran Tomac to the last moto of the Nationals. 
 

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Jett came along, the bar got raised and what was good enough to win before 2023 was no longer.With the benefit of hindsight I reckon in...

Jett came along, the bar got raised and what was good enough to win before 2023 was no longer.

With the benefit of hindsight I reckon in 2022 Chase was riding at his sustainable limit which was good enough to push Eli all the way.  2023 comes along, he could barely show Jett a wheel, and starts pushing beyond his sustainable limit.  

You could clearly see in ‘24 once Jett went out and Chase only had Hunter to deal with (who was in his rookie 450 year) he backs the pace off just enough to beat Hunter and barely put a foot wrong the second half of the season.

Now it’s compounded because not is Jett still there, Hunter has elevated his game, we’ve had a revitalised Eli (outside of injuries), Prado found his old self and Deegan has arrived on scene.  His sustainable limit is not good enough for 2nd anymore; it’s barely good enough to crack the top five.  Add in a questionable bike and a team that can’t seem to get out of its own way and the outcome is not good.

Excellent analysis!

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I to have helped out riders with product and don't want to see it disrespected.  I worded it wrong,  Let me try again. "IF YOU MUST"....Go...

I to have helped out riders with product and don't want to see it disrespected.  I worded it wrong,  Let me try again. "IF YOU MUST"....Go out back or somewhere private to have your little tantrum. Don't throw the bike!!

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Didn't Hurricane Bob Hannah ride off into the woods after the "let broc Bye" finish?

Yep and he didn't throw his bike in public.

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CPR wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard...

Am I the only one that thinks the ghost riding thing is not that big of a deal? 
I mean over the years we’ve seen, or heard of, many riders doing things like this when losing their temper. Kicking bikes over, breaking shit,…..there’s any number of similar examples. 
Is it an incident that the team needs to address? Of course. Is it worthy of ten pages of outrage? That seems a little over dramatic to me.

Okay there’s too many replies to quote you all 😂 

Do people think ghost riding the bike (remembering we don’t know the specifics of whether the bike was stepped off, or launched) is worse than kicking the bike off its stand? Which plenty of popular riders have done. As an ex-mechanic I don’t even like the disrespect of the bike when they deliberately destroy it doing burnouts after a win, but I do find the level of outrage in here a bit amusing considering we don’t know the details.

If there’s footage showing Sexton launching his bike at team members, okay fair enough. 
However, it could have been as simple as stepping off the back of the bike and letting it fall over., which in that case I think kicking a bike off the stand is just as bad and this has all been dramatised.

Does anyone here really know? 

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chase is friendly with Hunta ...........maybe ride at the dog pound for a change ?

Been working for Seth?

he is no threat to the laws this year so whatdaheck...........maybe get byrner'  involved in  lieu of his pops

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He just rides very over the front and it forces him to chase a setup that can’t be obtained. He needs to spend some serious time...

He just rides very over the front and it forces him to chase a setup that can’t be obtained. He needs to spend some serious time changing his technique and position on the bike

Stewart rode the same way and was pretty particular about his front end feel, I doubt the feeling he's looking for "can't be obtained." It's not...

Stewart rode the same way and was pretty particular about his front end feel, I doubt the feeling he's looking for "can't be obtained." It's not like this is the first time a rider has struggled to find the right set-up on any manufacturer, I remember Chad Reed bitching about every bike he switched to for years. I will say it's much more admirable when a guy can just put it to the back of their mind and bulldog through it like RV did, but not everyone is built like that. 

Didn’t stew and chase have a falling out because stew was trying to give lessons learned and they weren’t well received by chase and his camp? My interpretation on what was reported at the time

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I truly think if he was on the KTM still he would be right in the mix with Jett and Hunter..When he is comfortable, he is...

I truly think if he was on the KTM still he would be right in the mix with Jett and Hunter..

When he is comfortable, he is one of the fastest riders on the planet 

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LMFAO.....He left KTM because he thought the bike sucked.

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No he left the team because he didn’t get along/agree with management…..the same management that fired his mechanic that he brought over from Honda and the...

No he left the team because he didn’t get along/agree with management…..the same management that fired his mechanic that he brought over from Honda and the same management that made him ride at Baker’s although he wasn’t training with him… 

He must have agreed to the terms and conditions of employment before he signed the contract. He is still an employee, and KTM, Honda, Kawasaki have all or are currently paying him a great deal of money to race and produce for them. But he took his ball and went home twice and now perhaps three times. He has a 3 year contract to fulfill and that means staying connected to his race team and working his ass off to make the bike better and produce and win races. This is why he was hired. He entered this agreement in good faith and he spoke clearly about wanting a long term deal and working with Kawi to win races. And he might well be the highest paid guy in the class! He ought to keep his focus on this singular thing. He has fallen the same way too often on every bike he has raced since he entered the 450 class. I mean...

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Don’t some of these guys travel with a sports psychologist? Seems like that would be a good choice for Chase if he doesn’t have one. 

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Anyone have a video or photos?

 

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