Feld AMA Clown Show

2/22/2026 9:15am

But isn't the rule 'wheels on the ground'? Or is it 'no double jumping'? Because if it's wheels on the ground then Joe is guilty also because he jumped,  just less. I'm just saying this is a huge mess. And the AMA is an embarrassment to our sport and the athletes. Clearly Joe got ripped off. 

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2/22/2026 9:17am

We going to see who has more pull….Honda or Yamaha….and no..I didn’t say HRC Honda, we know what HRC stands for👌…. 

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2/22/2026 9:19am
crash83 wrote:
For following the rule, I get it...but actively rooting for a win to be given to someone who had an incident happen on the end of...

For following the rule, I get it...but actively rooting for a win to be given to someone who had an incident happen on the end of the 4th lap is wild. Dude had 20 laps to pass Brown and couldn't.

mtbkris2 wrote:

And brown had all race to pass Jo but couldn’t, without a technology glitch that literally stole the positions from Jo

crash83 wrote:

Good god this sport has gotten soft.

Doing the right thing is so soft

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2/22/2026 9:26am
soggy wrote:
They cant give Jo more points but they can dock brown. How can it take 1-2 days to figure this out?I feel like the AMA gets unnecessarily...

They cant give Jo more points but they can dock brown. 

How can it take 1-2 days to figure this out?


I feel like the AMA gets unnecessarily piled on but in this situation it’s justified. 

What was the cross flag red light incident in the 450 main? 

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Damn, did Eli and Webb jump with that flag out?  If so. That's crazy if they dont get docked.  

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2/22/2026 9:29am Edited Date/Time 2/22/2026 9:29am
mtbkris2 wrote:

And brown had all race to pass Jo but couldn’t, without a technology glitch that literally stole the positions from Jo

What does this even mean, how can you pass Joe if you’re in front of him for the last 17ish laps, holding off Jo Shimoda isn’t easy and deserves tons of credit.

Stoked for Pierce to get his first win, while running the #163 too, this is gonna be a good series

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2/22/2026 9:37am
yak651 wrote:
lol, this guy is saying we should know in a “day or two” the results! Let that sink in, a day or two to interrupt their...

lol, this guy is saying we should know in a “day or two” the results! Let that sink in, a day or two to interrupt their rule book! You can’t make this up how incompetent they are 🤦‍♂️IMG 4357 0

It seems like it shouldn’t take that long, but I’d rather that they take the time to get it right and not have it later overturned on appeal or something like that. There are likely some legal issues that are going to pop up so I would imagine that the lawyers are going to be looking at things as soon as possible. 

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2/22/2026 9:39am Edited Date/Time 2/22/2026 9:42am
Pop Shmoke wrote:
The fim sucked, but I dont ever remember them fucking up something this bad. Its clear as fucking day. There is 0 doubt, brown jumped on...

The fim sucked, but I dont ever remember them fucking up something this bad. Its clear as fucking day. There is 0 doubt, brown jumped on red, docked. Too bad. Jo wins. 

You want to bring back the guys who black flagged Chad Reed with no replay review? Then suspended JS7, the biggest star in the sport, for so long that he just retired instead.

There is no person better qualified to referee these races than J Bone. Who is the FIM going to bring in? 

Pretty sure the guy FIM appointed had never even raced. Like ever.

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2/22/2026 9:53am

not a fun day to be a referee 

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2/22/2026 9:55am

I stole this from Facebook, but it gave me a laugh.

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2/22/2026 10:48am

no, i'm not advocating for people to start suing the AMA....but....with potentially hundreds of thousands on the line in bonus money for a win, I'd certainly consider it. Joe won that race (or should have). Brown should not have passed him and broke the rules to do so. Simply because the AMA is inept and has to CYA now, that shouldn't change the fact that Joe is out a LOT of money because of their foul-up.

BTW - don't we have a few AMA guys in here? Pretty telling that they won't chime in.

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2/22/2026 11:06am
prozach wrote:

Damn, did Eli and Webb jump with that flag out?  If so. That's crazy if they dont get docked.  

Roczen jumped aswell, I'm sure all 3 will lose 5 points

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2/22/2026 11:11am
But isn't the rule 'wheels on the ground'? Or is it 'no double jumping'? Because if it's wheels on the ground then Joe is guilty also...

But isn't the rule 'wheels on the ground'? Or is it 'no double jumping'? Because if it's wheels on the ground then Joe is guilty also because he jumped,  just less. I'm just saying this is a huge mess. And the AMA is an embarrassment to our sport and the athletes. Clearly Joe got ripped off. 

They've never been that technical about wheels on the ground. If you go look at anyone rolling a jump on a red cross, many times the wheels leave the ground. 

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no, i'm not advocating for people to start suing the AMA....but....with potentially hundreds of thousands on the line in bonus money for a win, I'd certainly...

no, i'm not advocating for people to start suing the AMA....but....with potentially hundreds of thousands on the line in bonus money for a win, I'd certainly consider it. Joe won that race (or should have). Brown should not have passed him and broke the rules to do so. Simply because the AMA is inept and has to CYA now, that shouldn't change the fact that Joe is out a LOT of money because of their foul-up.

BTW - don't we have a few AMA guys in here? Pretty telling that they won't chime in.

LoL WTF are you talking about...How smart would it be for an AMA employee to make any kind of definitive post about this situation when their employer is reviewing the issue?  

No doubt the AMA is sorely lacking when it comes to allowing this to even happen and also being sooo slow to make a determination on who's getting penalized but that has nothing to do with AMA employees who post here stepping in and making any kind of call before their employer makes that call.  Good way to lose your job.

 

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2/22/2026 11:34am

I’m starting to suspect the title sponsor is weighing in on the decision…

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2/22/2026 11:37am
soggy wrote:
They cant give Jo more points but they can dock brown. How can it take 1-2 days to figure this out?I feel like the AMA gets unnecessarily...

They cant give Jo more points but they can dock brown. 

How can it take 1-2 days to figure this out?


I feel like the AMA gets unnecessarily piled on but in this situation it’s justified. 

What was the cross flag red light incident in the 450 main? 

yak651 wrote:
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prozach wrote:

Damn, did Eli and Webb jump with that flag out?  If so. That's crazy if they dont get docked.  

this is kenny behind eli, not webb. They pulled the flag when webb was about to jump the finish line

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2/22/2026 12:09pm

So many shit takes on this thread.  Brown must be penalized.

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2/22/2026 12:11pm

Now they updated the points standings

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2/22/2026 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2026 12:14pm

If that's the "final" word, the AMA is just stupid, illogical, and inept.

 

I think that may not be the final decision though?

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2/22/2026 12:16pm

They will need a couple of days. Code statement for “we aren’t changing anything and by then the focus from the fans will be Daytona”

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2/22/2026 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2026 12:24pm

I’m starting to suspect the title sponsor is weighing in on the decision…

Spot on. Sure does benefit the Monster Energy Star Racing team

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2/22/2026 12:24pm

If the AMA does not fix this, they must admit that it is NOT a sanctioning body for a professional sport (but an entertainment company). And all fantasy leagues and sports betting must be stopped.

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2/22/2026 12:30pm Edited Date/Time 2/22/2026 12:32pm

There's no way to justify not docking everyone who jumped. It's on video. The rule is clear. Doesn't matter if the light was supposed to be on. There's no argument to be made for leaving it as is if you're going by the rule book. Honda should rightly lose their shit and be as annoying and disruptive about this as possible if AMA doesn't do the obvious thing on this one.

If anyone from monster or feld so much as offers an opinion on this the AMA should publicly blow them out for it too. 

Prove that you care about your credibility, AMA.

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2/22/2026 12:31pm

Surprise! Or not.. IMG 3431

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2/22/2026 12:37pm

"No violation was determined" is just embarrassing language to use here. They are trying to create ambiguity where none exists in order to absolve them of the responsibility of making a hard decision and defending it. 

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Nystrom wrote:
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Good lord, as mentioned above it will all be forgotten by this weekends race and the pods and race telecast will be instructed to sweep it under the rug. Bad enough we have to put up with RC and Diffy calling the races, but these rule interruptions are the icing on a 💩 sandwich this sport is becoming 

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2/22/2026 12:40pm
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I don't know the details around the 450 incident but no violation in the 250s is ridiculous. It clearly had an effect on the result of the race. 

You'd hope AMA would at least be having SERIOUS meetings with their flagging team? Or are they still using volunteers? Either way it's laughable for a "professional" sport

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2/22/2026 12:45pm

Yes it will be really hard to take the ama serious after this.. and it’s been hard before also! It will be embarrassing listening to if any involved ama staff like Yogi try to explain this. 

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2/22/2026 12:51pm

They docked every rider who did it across the finish line at the triple crown in 2023. Even docked Anderson for doing it twice.


But now it’s just cool for riders to ignore the lights? Shimoda was absolutely screwed here. 

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2/22/2026 12:52pm
Nystrom wrote:
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Where did you find this? AMA has not released the post-race penalty report for Arlington on their site yet. 

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