Ducati and Cairoli to Debut Together in the US at RedBud

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6/26/2025 12:52pm
Sc2 wrote:

where do you guys think he will finish 

around 10th ? 

Two DNFs and a DNS

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6/26/2025 1:34pm

He can go anywhere inside of 8-12 I think. Obviously has the ability to do better but I’m not sure the bike is ready for that. 

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Try the age classes. 

Ama still won't let you.

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So I guess as we’ve seen with Triumph, Honda and now Ducati, the homologation rule is simply a promise that the bikes will be available at some point and a signed check. I don’t really even mind if that is how it works to be honest but they should probably revisit their wording or numbers or deadlines in their own rule book. 

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
"The U.S. market is the most important in the world, and our main goal is to debut the Desmo450 MX in the USA just a few...

"The U.S. market is the most important in the world, and our main goal is to debut the Desmo450 MX in the USA just a few weeks before deliveries begin,"

This C&P from the article is why I asked.

GrapeApe wrote:
Michael said in the other thread the first shipments will be hitting the shores late July, early August. I'm happy to have AC and the Ducati...

Michael said in the other thread the first shipments will be hitting the shores late July, early August. I'm happy to have AC and the Ducati racing in the US, but first with Triumph and now with Ducati it seems the rule has become a suggestion.

 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

But they'll sure as fuck enforce the rules if you show up on one of those powerful 150/300 two strokes. 

I'd be more curious what they'd say if someone like TM wanted to enter a bike on a "trust me the bikes will be here" basis.

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Why not out of the TLD truck is that deal already falling apart?

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Awesome! Does he beat Prado?

Pretty certain paper cups are blowing past Prado at the track.

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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
"The U.S. market is the most important in the world, and our main goal is to debut the Desmo450 MX in the USA just a few...

"The U.S. market is the most important in the world, and our main goal is to debut the Desmo450 MX in the USA just a few weeks before deliveries begin,"

This C&P from the article is why I asked.

GrapeApe wrote:
Michael said in the other thread the first shipments will be hitting the shores late July, early August. I'm happy to have AC and the Ducati...

Michael said in the other thread the first shipments will be hitting the shores late July, early August. I'm happy to have AC and the Ducati racing in the US, but first with Triumph and now with Ducati it seems the rule has become a suggestion.

 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Yeah, I don't care for the rule in the first place, but was just looking for some clarity on how this works. I know, I know.... AMA/Clarity...

Yeah, I don't care for the rule in the first place, but was just looking for some clarity on how this works. 

I know, I know.... AMA/Clarity = oxymoron. 

*oxymoran

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6/26/2025 3:11pm

Awesome! Does he beat Prado?

Spoonguy wrote:

Pretty certain paper cups are blowing past Prado at the track.

A complete dick comment...but funny as fuck. 😄

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Time to do away with Homologation, starting metal grills, the fork hold down and double cc 2 stroke rules.  

👍👍

It wouldn't let me give two thumbs-up, so here you go.

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6/26/2025 3:23pm Edited Date/Time 6/26/2025 3:54pm
SEEMEFIRST wrote:

So, they haven't started deliveries in the U.S. yet, how does that work with homologation?

wrc777 wrote:

Apparently the same way it did for Honda last year. 

dadofagun wrote:
You cannot expect the AMA to actually go along with their own rules can you?  The AMA rule book, and Mad Magazine, have a lot in...

You cannot expect the AMA to actually go along with their own rules can you?  The AMA rule book, and Mad Magazine, have a lot in common.....

I don't know why everyone has this Negative Nelly opinion of the AMA and their rule enforcement. It's been demonstrated that they strictly and swiftly enforce their rules... on privateers.

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6/26/2025 3:34pm

Does it really matter whether the bike has been ...to the letter of the law...homologated?

The reality is, this is a EXIHIBITION entry.  A couple of races where we get to see one of the best ever, one of the coolest ever, race a really interesting bike as a preview for what we get to see next year.

So what if he places 30 guys one position back in the results.

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Sc2 wrote:

where do you guys think he will finish 

around 10th ? 

5th

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Money wrote:

Why not out of the TLD truck is that deal already falling apart?

Probably has to do with conflicting sponsors. When Troy was on WTS a few months back, he confirmed that they'll be a Red Bull team, but Ducati Europe is Monster. There's probably more, but that one would be a big red flag.

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Our sport is too small for homologation standards in my opinion. 
Maybe 250 units sold. 

I suppose if it was too low than you'd see a company building sick works bikes with buyers with deep pockets. Of course our sport is mostly the skill of the rider that gets results. 

Does F1 have this rule?  🤣🤣🤣

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6/26/2025 6:13pm
Money wrote:

Why not out of the TLD truck is that deal already falling apart?

Read somewhere that the TC / Ducati US racing project was more of an extension of Ducati R&D than anything else. 

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6/26/2025 7:37pm
Sc2 wrote:

where do you guys think he will finish 

around 10th ? 

kxking wrote:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he finishes top 5 at Redbud with a 4-6

DNF, 11 moto scores

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6/26/2025 7:50pm

Sounds like the Red Bull for the American side might not be happening.   Be interesting how they work out getting a big name if the rider cannot have their own gear deal.  Do they get lax on that aspect?

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Hopefully Thor makes AC a badass custom kit to debut that bike out here

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6/26/2025 8:07pm
Sc2 wrote:

where do you guys think he will finish 

around 10th ? 

I say better than that.  Other side of Lake Michigan it’s been raining  a lot .  Plus rain on Saturday and cool.IMG 3599 0

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6/26/2025 8:17pm
Conkey wrote:
Sounds like the Red Bull for the American side might not be happening.   Be interesting how they work out getting a big name if the...

Sounds like the Red Bull for the American side might not be happening.   Be interesting how they work out getting a big name if the rider cannot have their own gear deal.  Do they get lax on that aspect?

Interesting. 

6/26/2025 8:25pm
Sc2 wrote:

where do you guys think he will finish 

around 10th ? 

Johnny Oz wrote:

5th

You're off you're rocker. 

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6/26/2025 8:27pm Edited Date/Time 6/26/2025 8:28pm
GrapeApe wrote:
So 200 units imported and available for sale through US dealers as of March 1, and another 200 as of June 1? Not saying, just saying...

So 200 units imported and available for sale through US dealers as of March 1, and another 200 as of June 1? Not saying, just saying. lol

 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:
"The U.S. market is the most important in the world, and our main goal is to debut the Desmo450 MX in the USA just a few...

"The U.S. market is the most important in the world, and our main goal is to debut the Desmo450 MX in the USA just a few weeks before deliveries begin,"

This C&P from the article is why I asked.

GrapeApe wrote:
Michael said in the other thread the first shipments will be hitting the shores late July, early August. I'm happy to have AC and the Ducati...

Michael said in the other thread the first shipments will be hitting the shores late July, early August. I'm happy to have AC and the Ducati racing in the US, but first with Triumph and now with Ducati it seems the rule has become a suggestion.

 

Even Mathes laughed off Ducati meeting the requirements. Sure they did. He also said he's probably doing Milville, too

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Sc2 wrote:

where do you guys think he will finish 

around 10th ? 

At least one holeshot.

Then finish between 5th and 10th.

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For those that thinks it's just Ducati, Honda and Triumph being given 'favours', ML did mention RV's change to the new Kawi in 2012, in the video, during the season.

Homologation rules?  The quantities for the Big Manufactures, are fine, I think. 

I'd just like to see them significantly lower for the smaller Manufacturers. 

That, and Equivalency being put in place. 

Oh, and a 125 National class be re-introduced.

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In the big scheme of things, homologation of a bike that is in production and should be available at dealers in about a month is not a big deal to me. Just happy to see AC racing.

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6/27/2025 6:27am

Awesome! Does he beat Prado?

Spoonguy wrote:

Pretty certain paper cups are blowing past Prado at the track.

That’s Cold…😂

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6/27/2025 11:21am
ohh_454 wrote:

Hopefully Thor makes AC a badass custom kit to debut that bike out here

That would be cool. Spoonman might know but can't say. 

6/27/2025 11:34am

Time to do away with Homologation, starting metal grills, the fork hold down and double cc 2 stroke rules.  

...........and all God's people said..........AMEN.

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6/27/2025 11:35am

This is awesome! It was great having him over here a couple years ago. I hope he puts in a couple strong rides.

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