That was a murder… Chase would be crazy to leave KTM

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davistld01 wrote:
100% agree. This whole Sexton/Kawasaki thing has never felt right to me. Unless the move is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...I just can't see Chase making...

100% agree. This whole Sexton/Kawasaki thing has never felt right to me. Unless the move is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...I just can't see Chase making the move, unless like Maverick posted...maybe he's ridden the new KTM and doesn't like it. 

But isn't it really ALL ABOUT THE MONEY?Dude would be nutz not to get dat money....He is very talented and disciplined...He is a winner. .  Equals...

But isn't it really ALL ABOUT THE MONEY?

Dude would be nutz not to get dat money....

He is very talented and disciplined...

He is a winner. .  

Equals big money

…but it’s not that straight forward.  What if Chase had signed with Star for less…and then challenged/beat Jett in SX in 24’?  At the time I think that bike would have suited Chase much more than what he had to figure out at KTM.  How much more would that be worth?  Less money for a better bike may pay off for someone of Chase’s caliber. …but …at this point though…he has that KTM working pretty good.  …but what about the new model next year?

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The Kawi move only makes sense if it means a lot more money. And I think it will, and Chase would be smart to take it. Even if it means not winning a title next year while he “learns” the bike (which I think is ridiculous), he’ll be on a multi year deal and he’s still young.

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Every one has on and off days.  And he still has the lead.

Webb has the lead, but they each control their own destiny.  If Chase wins out, he’s champ and nothing Webb can do about it.

Chase does have no margin for error though.  His path is tougher.  But what we just saw makes it seem less “tough”.

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I always thought Chase should have gone to Yamaha instead of KTM.  I think his 24 SX season would have gone much better.  Could it have...

I always thought Chase should have gone to Yamaha instead of KTM.  I think his 24 SX season would have gone much better.  Could it have happened?  IDK…but remember…. Chase signed with KTM way before Webb changed teams.  Maybe Eli didn’t want that?  or Chase?…I think it was ALL about money….but I find it hard to believe they (Star) wouldn’t have taken a swing.  Maybe someone here knows what happened back in 23’.


…btw…you know you got a great contract when it throws a huge company into bankruptcy!!…jk

It was said that Chase wanted to the THE number 1 guy, and at KTM he is their top dog. He would’ve came 2nd to Eli, like Coop probably was at the beginning. 

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ohh_454 wrote:

Chase has to keep up with Jett, that’s why he’s going to Kawi imo. 

To think that the Ktm is holding him back from being competitive against Jett, but a kawi will make up the deficit is delusional.

Not saying it’s holding him back, but if he thinks it is then it probably is. It could all be between his ears and if he feels better on the Kawi then good on him. He has top tier speed like Jett, and maybe he wants a frame and suspension that he’s more comfortable with? A KTM and WP suspension is a different feeling bike then the Jap bikes, let’s not forget that. 

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Shred wrote:
I always thought Chase should have gone to Yamaha instead of KTM.  I think his 24 SX season would have gone much better.  Could it have...

I always thought Chase should have gone to Yamaha instead of KTM.  I think his 24 SX season would have gone much better.  Could it have happened?  IDK…but remember…. Chase signed with KTM way before Webb changed teams.  Maybe Eli didn’t want that?  or Chase?…I think it was ALL about money….but I find it hard to believe they (Star) wouldn’t have taken a swing.  Maybe someone here knows what happened back in 23’.


…btw…you know you got a great contract when it throws a huge company into bankruptcy!!…jk

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It was said that Chase wanted to the THE number 1 guy, and at KTM he is their top dog. He would’ve came 2nd to Eli...

It was said that Chase wanted to the THE number 1 guy, and at KTM he is their top dog. He would’ve came 2nd to Eli, like Coop probably was at the beginning. 

Makes sense after seeing the Jett circus come to Honda,

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Press516 wrote:
Webb has the lead, but they each control their own destiny.  If Chase wins out, he’s champ and nothing Webb can do about it.Chase does have...

Webb has the lead, but they each control their own destiny.  If Chase wins out, he’s champ and nothing Webb can do about it.

Chase does have no margin for error though.  His path is tougher.  But what we just saw makes it seem less “tough”.

Yep, Chase looks good on the KTM. Webb only has to get second from here on out to win it though, right?

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Yeah, he even told us all that he was still recovering from the gunshot wound. 

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Press516 wrote:
Webb has the lead, but they each control their own destiny.  If Chase wins out, he’s champ and nothing Webb can do about it.Chase does have...

Webb has the lead, but they each control their own destiny.  If Chase wins out, he’s champ and nothing Webb can do about it.

Chase does have no margin for error though.  His path is tougher.  But what we just saw makes it seem less “tough”.

burn1986 wrote:

Yep, Chase looks good on the KTM. Webb only has to get second from here on out to win it though, right?

If Chase wins out, he wins the title

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4/19/2025 7:09pm
Press516 wrote:
Webb has the lead, but they each control their own destiny.  If Chase wins out, he’s champ and nothing Webb can do about it.Chase does have...

Webb has the lead, but they each control their own destiny.  If Chase wins out, he’s champ and nothing Webb can do about it.

Chase does have no margin for error though.  His path is tougher.  But what we just saw makes it seem less “tough”.

burn1986 wrote:

Yep, Chase looks good on the KTM. Webb only has to get second from here on out to win it though, right?

no, if Chase wins out and Coop is 2nd, they end up tied on points, and Chase wins on the count back of most wins, 

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Not saying it’s holding him back, but if he thinks it is then it probably is. It could all be between his ears and if he...

Not saying it’s holding him back, but if he thinks it is then it probably is. It could all be between his ears and if he feels better on the Kawi then good on him. He has top tier speed like Jett, and maybe he wants a frame and suspension that he’s more comfortable with? A KTM and WP suspension is a different feeling bike then the Jap bikes, let’s not forget that. 

Chase has KYB forks.


My guess is the Kawi seed was planted before he got the bike sorted for SX.

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4/19/2025 7:13pm Edited Date/Time 4/19/2025 9:39pm
1.2 sec faster than Webb, who had a second on Plessinger in 3rd. So it's not like Webb wasn't flying. I don't understand the Kawi thing...

1.2 sec faster than Webb, who had a second on Plessinger in 3rd. So it's not like Webb wasn't flying. I don't understand the Kawi thing. Chase really wants off the KTM that bad? What's he know that we don't, he would be even faster on green? I just can't see it. 

davistld01 wrote:
100% agree. This whole Sexton/Kawasaki thing has never felt right to me. Unless the move is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...I just can't see Chase making...

100% agree. This whole Sexton/Kawasaki thing has never felt right to me. Unless the move is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...I just can't see Chase making the move, unless like Maverick posted...maybe he's ridden the new KTM and doesn't like it. 

Are we sure the rumour of a move to Kawa is not just a rumour?

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Webb has to be in panic mode after that race. That was ridiculous. 

I think the opposite. Chase did a poor job managing a lead. No need to win by that much, it’s silly to risk throwing it away by tucking the front or something. Coop will be ready to pounce when that happens.

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4/19/2025 7:55pm Edited Date/Time 4/19/2025 7:57pm
1.2 sec faster than Webb, who had a second on Plessinger in 3rd. So it's not like Webb wasn't flying. I don't understand the Kawi thing...

1.2 sec faster than Webb, who had a second on Plessinger in 3rd. So it's not like Webb wasn't flying. I don't understand the Kawi thing. Chase really wants off the KTM that bad? What's he know that we don't, he would be even faster on green? I just can't see it. 

davistld01 wrote:
100% agree. This whole Sexton/Kawasaki thing has never felt right to me. Unless the move is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...I just can't see Chase making...

100% agree. This whole Sexton/Kawasaki thing has never felt right to me. Unless the move is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY...I just can't see Chase making the move, unless like Maverick posted...maybe he's ridden the new KTM and doesn't like it. 

Chase could ride this same exact bike next year instead of the .5 update and nobody would be the wiser. Wasn’t it just recently where like half the Austrian bike riders were on the newest version and the other half stayed on the previous version?

If he signed his 3rd year option at KTM, he could be on the same bike as he’s on now. He’d have to sign a longer deal to worry about the 2027 bike. 

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Not saying it’s holding him back, but if he thinks it is then it probably is. It could all be between his ears and if he...

Not saying it’s holding him back, but if he thinks it is then it probably is. It could all be between his ears and if he feels better on the Kawi then good on him. He has top tier speed like Jett, and maybe he wants a frame and suspension that he’s more comfortable with? A KTM and WP suspension is a different feeling bike then the Jap bikes, let’s not forget that. 

PRM31 wrote:

Chase has KYB forks.


My guess is the Kawi seed was planted before he got the bike sorted for SX.

What about the rear shock that fades?

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That was one of the best rides and biggest beat downs that I have seen in a very long time!!  But I have to admit that I gained a lot of respect for Webb with the way he handled his podium interview. 

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Chase stopped chasing setup a few weeks ago. Now when the bike does something he doesn’t like he can anticipate it. 

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Webb has to be in panic mode after that race. That was ridiculous. 

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I think the opposite. Chase did a poor job managing a lead. No need to win by that much, it’s silly to risk throwing it away...

I think the opposite. Chase did a poor job managing a lead. No need to win by that much, it’s silly to risk throwing it away by tucking the front or something. Coop will be ready to pounce when that happens.

Sometimes when you slow down, you make more mistakes.  He just rode his race and wasn't pushing it over his limits.  If that had been Jett, everyone would be talking about his "extra gear" he has over the competition.  To me, it didn't look like he was hanging it out so far that he was risking a front end wash our or a crash.  He was simply dominant.  Not much else to say really.

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Perhaps that was a strategic move by Webb.  Maybe he didn’t feel right on the track.  Perhaps he was in a tough spot mentally.  It would’ve...

Perhaps that was a strategic move by Webb.  Maybe he didn’t feel right on the track.  Perhaps he was in a tough spot mentally.  It would’ve been horrific to challenge for the lead on a track you’re not comfortable with and go from a points lead to a deficit because of a crash.  

If he won tonight, would he have won the title?  

No.

If he crashed, could he have lost the title?

Yes.

Think.

I’m a Webb fan currently but this is a stretch. Dude was P1 in Q1 and 3rd overall. It wasn’t an off night. That’s a strong showing for Webb. Dude just doesn’t have the speed. His only hope is sexton ends up sextoning at this point. Which might happen. He could pull a repeat of Vegas at SLC. We will see. 

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The real reason Chase is leaving KTM for Kawi is because he likes the taste on Monster over Red Bull. (sarcasm)

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It was a great ride and very impressive but honestly, in my opinion this is what Chase does. It’s so confusing watching him throughout a season because he has rides like this but then follows up with another amazing ride that ends up in with a mental mistake.  

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Perhaps that was a strategic move by Webb.  Maybe he didn’t feel right on the track.  Perhaps he was in a tough spot mentally.  It would’ve...

Perhaps that was a strategic move by Webb.  Maybe he didn’t feel right on the track.  Perhaps he was in a tough spot mentally.  It would’ve been horrific to challenge for the lead on a track you’re not comfortable with and go from a points lead to a deficit because of a crash.  

If he won tonight, would he have won the title?  

No.

If he crashed, could he have lost the title?

Yes.

Think.

I’m a Webb fan currently but this is a stretch. Dude was P1 in Q1 and 3rd overall. It wasn’t an off night. That’s a strong...

I’m a Webb fan currently but this is a stretch. Dude was P1 in Q1 and 3rd overall. It wasn’t an off night. That’s a strong showing for Webb. Dude just doesn’t have the speed. His only hope is sexton ends up sextoning at this point. Which might happen. He could pull a repeat of Vegas at SLC. We will see. 

Webb fan and chase fan but I will take Webb’s race craft over sexton’s speed and potential mental mistakes 

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Webb has to be in panic mode after that race. That was ridiculous. 

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I think the opposite. Chase did a poor job managing a lead. No need to win by that much, it’s silly to risk throwing it away...

I think the opposite. Chase did a poor job managing a lead. No need to win by that much, it’s silly to risk throwing it away by tucking the front or something. Coop will be ready to pounce when that happens.

lol, if he slowed down any more to let coop keep up he would’ve fell over

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I have to admit that when they started 1-2, I thought Webb would stalk him for 15 minutes then break Chase mentally. Sexton answered the call...

I have to admit that when they started 1-2, I thought Webb would stalk him for 15 minutes then break Chase mentally. Sexton answered the call today. 

I thought this as well, I thought Coop would do what he normally does and slowly close the gap, but nope.

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Call me crazy but I truly believe that version of Chase beats anybody in the world. Including Jett. I just think he only finds that sublime "flow" once or twice a season, and it always seems to be when Jett is injured. Last time I saw Chase ride like that was Hangtown moto 2 last year.

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Perhaps that was a strategic move by Webb.  Maybe he didn’t feel right on the track.  Perhaps he was in a tough spot mentally.  It would’ve...

Perhaps that was a strategic move by Webb.  Maybe he didn’t feel right on the track.  Perhaps he was in a tough spot mentally.  It would’ve been horrific to challenge for the lead on a track you’re not comfortable with and go from a points lead to a deficit because of a crash.  

If he won tonight, would he have won the title?  

No.

If he crashed, could he have lost the title?

Yes.

Think.

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100% agree. Webb wasn't feeling it on that track and he knew 2nd behind Sexton is ok on that particular track.

It's a smart move by Webb.

This is just BS. This is supposed to be Coop's bread and butter. Track is gnarly and Webb shines. Webb talked the talk on the podium last week but he didn't bring the heat this week. For a guy that is supposed to have the mental edge, he hasn't looked that way when Chase beats him straight up. Chase had 11 seconds on him at the halfway point. Everyone beats up on Jcoop for not being good in the whoops but Webb is a 2x champion that still can't skim whoops at the level he should be at. He lost the majority of his time jumping the whoops. 

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I'm just here for the massive amounts of cope from the webb wagon saying it was a smart move to lay up and take second. Guess he made that decision after about the third turn of the race? 

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Webb has to be in panic mode after that race. That was ridiculous. 

vdrsnk04 wrote:
I think the opposite. Chase did a poor job managing a lead. No need to win by that much, it’s silly to risk throwing it away...

I think the opposite. Chase did a poor job managing a lead. No need to win by that much, it’s silly to risk throwing it away by tucking the front or something. Coop will be ready to pounce when that happens.

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Sometimes when you slow down, you make more mistakes.  He just rode his race and wasn't pushing it over his limits.  If that had been Jett...

Sometimes when you slow down, you make more mistakes.  He just rode his race and wasn't pushing it over his limits.  If that had been Jett, everyone would be talking about his "extra gear" he has over the competition.  To me, it didn't look like he was hanging it out so far that he was risking a front end wash our or a crash.  He was simply dominant.  Not much else to say really.

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Reality is we don’t know any of the details around Sexton’s contract talks. 
What if it’s as simple as using Kawi’s interest to bargain for better terms at KTM?

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