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5/15/2024 4:28pm Edited Date/Time 5/15/2024 7:47pm

so the answer to the original question is: "Dunno". Do I translate correctly?

No. I don't think there was ever an official plan to make a return at Nashville, just wishful thinking. I'm sure internally they wanted to but there was no announcement saying they would. Cooksey made a video saying Forkner was returning at Foxborough. About a week later, Forkner had an interview with Swap and was asked if he would be making a return and he said he would like to race SX before the year is over if it's possible but he isn't going to rush his comeback to racing until he is 100% healthy physically and mentally ready to race again but that may not happen in time. Then he got LASIK in the beginning of April.

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so the answer to the original question is: "Dunno". Do I translate correctly?

aeffertz wrote:
No. I don't think there was ever an official plan to make a return at Nashville, just wishful thinking. I'm sure internally they wanted to but...

No. I don't think there was ever an official plan to make a return at Nashville, just wishful thinking. I'm sure internally they wanted to but there was no announcement saying they would. Cooksey made a video saying Forkner was returning at Foxborough. About a week later, Forkner had an interview with Swap and was asked if he would be making a return and he said he would like to race SX before the year is over if it's possible but he isn't going to rush his comeback to racing until he is 100% healthy physically and mentally ready to race again but that may not happen in time. Then he got LASIK in the beginning of April.

Per swap he was going to make a return and then something happened.  They didn't elaborate on what the something was. 

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I thought he was going to ride the last few rounds - wasn't he supposed to come back at Nashville? Did something go wrong or did...

I thought he was going to ride the last few rounds - wasn't he supposed to come back at Nashville? Did something go wrong or did he just choose to sit out and prep for Nats?

aeffertz wrote:

I believe the source on that was Cooksey, so no surprise there. 

Cooksey's #1 source is his toaster smh

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"OK so how much does McElrath and his category make ??  I think you very much under estimate how much most of these guys make. Nic Wey who never won a SX/national and was a privateer for several years at the end of his career was still making over a million a year(from Nic Wey interview)" 

Nic Wey did win an outdoor National. He got the overall at Millville in the 125 class, I believe it was around 1999/2000.

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5/15/2024 7:38pm
soggy wrote:

I’m sure Pops will be in here in no time to clear things up. 

If you don’t want to know, I’ll keep it to myself!🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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Langhammx wrote:
Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together...

Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together. Tough kid, he’s had a rough go. 
 

a couple other up and comers that didn’t get to where they were expected to get-

Stilez Robertson

Jett Reynolds

Talon Hawkins

Ryder D

Then you have a few amateurs that should be making a name for themselves soon-

Gavin Towers

Parker Ross

Caden Braswell 

it’s not easy to break in to the big leagues. Some have a tougher go than others . 

 

Robbie Reynard was another blazing fast rider that missed out due to injuries, I know Austin has more wins, but I feel this outdoors he must...

Robbie Reynard was another blazing fast rider that missed out due to injuries,

I know Austin has more wins, but I feel this outdoors he must perform or he'll be forgotten.

RC has said that when RR was on his game, he (RC) had nothing for him (RR).

 

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5/15/2024 7:49pm

There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

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There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

image-20240516124922-1

Indeed.

But they're a lot more expensive... and more dangerous!Grinning

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5/15/2024 9:04pm
There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

image-20240516124922-1

Indeed. But they're a lot more expensive... and more dangerous!

Indeed.

But they're a lot more expensive... and more dangerous!Grinning

and they get upset when you update them with a newer model.

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There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

image-20240516124922-1

Indeed. But they're a lot more expensive... and more dangerous!

Indeed.

But they're a lot more expensive... and more dangerous!Grinning

and they get upset when you update them with a newer model.

"Upset" is putting it mildly.

Something like, "Hell hath no fury..."

I seem to forget the rest.Grinning

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5/15/2024 9:18pm
soggy wrote:

I’m sure Pops will be in here in no time to clear things up. 

pops wrote:

If you don’t want to know, I’ll keep it to myself!🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

But we do want to know!

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5/15/2024 10:43pm
Langhammx wrote:
Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together...

Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together. Tough kid, he’s had a rough go. 
 

a couple other up and comers that didn’t get to where they were expected to get-

Stilez Robertson

Jett Reynolds

Talon Hawkins

Ryder D

Then you have a few amateurs that should be making a name for themselves soon-

Gavin Towers

Parker Ross

Caden Braswell 

it’s not easy to break in to the big leagues. Some have a tougher go than others . 

 

Add Vohland to that current list as well.  Alot of talented guys right there. 

5/16/2024 1:34am
M1000 wrote:
Forkner is a good rider, and injury prone. He started pro before Jett Lawrence. Now as four years have flown by, Jett is the guy. Multi...

Forkner is a good rider, and injury prone. He started pro before Jett Lawrence. Now as four years have flown by, Jett is the guy. Multi time 250 out door champ, multi time 250 lites Supercross champion, 450 outdoor champion, and now Supercross Champ. Forkner had nothing behind his name. Time is running out. Forkner should move up to 450 class, or he will end up as 30+ Like RJ Hampshire, or a permanent fixture in 250 class. He has supercross winning speed. 

I’m not sure what got you the downvotes, the part about Forkner doing nothing in his career or Hampshire finally beating guys that were on 65’s when he turned Pro? 

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5/16/2024 6:28am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2024 6:29am
soggy wrote:

I’m sure Pops will be in here in no time to clear things up. 

pops wrote:

If you don’t want to know, I’ll keep it to myself!🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

It doesn’t matter what he does. He won’t be a factor. 

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5/16/2024 6:42am
Langhammx wrote:
Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together...

Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together. Tough kid, he’s had a rough go. 
 

a couple other up and comers that didn’t get to where they were expected to get-

Stilez Robertson

Jett Reynolds

Talon Hawkins

Ryder D

Then you have a few amateurs that should be making a name for themselves soon-

Gavin Towers

Parker Ross

Caden Braswell 

it’s not easy to break in to the big leagues. Some have a tougher go than others . 

 

mxnick wrote:

Add Vohland to that current list as well.  Alot of talented guys right there. 

Any word on Max?

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5/16/2024 7:20am
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It sucks lately the way its gone. When he went pro, it started with him making dumb mistakes that caused his injuries, but the last 3...

It sucks lately the way its gone. When he went pro, it started with him making dumb mistakes that caused his injuries, but the last 3 years has been some of the dumbest luck I've seen in Supercross. First Jett has a rare crossrut right next to him and wipes him out. Then the greatest fluke of a race start I've ever seen, and now his contact falls out mid race causing a big crash. When the worst things imaginable aren't happening to him, he's done great. Really hope we see him outdoors and he can put together a full season without something terrible happening, because if he can I think him and Vialle could have one hell of a battle.

The Jett one is frustrating.  That was no fault of his and get glossed over. You're way off on thinking he has the pace outdoors though. He's much better at sx. His last podium outdoors was 2018, I believe. I'd love to see him do well outdoors and get his feet under him

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Langhammx wrote:
Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together...

Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together. Tough kid, he’s had a rough go. 
 

a couple other up and comers that didn’t get to where they were expected to get-

Stilez Robertson

Jett Reynolds

Talon Hawkins

Ryder D

Then you have a few amateurs that should be making a name for themselves soon-

Gavin Towers

Parker Ross

Caden Braswell 

it’s not easy to break in to the big leagues. Some have a tougher go than others . 

 

mxnick wrote:

Add Vohland to that current list as well.  Alot of talented guys right there. 

Any word on Max?

I've heard he hasn't been able to get back on the bike and there's been complications from his hip injury. I'm not sure we'll see him at all in outdoors...

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I've heard he hasn't been able to get back on the bike and there's been complications from his hip injury. I'm not sure we'll see him...

I've heard he hasn't been able to get back on the bike and there's been complications from his hip injury. I'm not sure we'll see him at all in outdoors...

hopefully he wasn't misdiagnosed initially a la Bo Jackson.

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5/16/2024 9:10am
Endrism wrote:
It sucks lately the way its gone. When he went pro, it started with him making dumb mistakes that caused his injuries, but the last 3...

It sucks lately the way its gone. When he went pro, it started with him making dumb mistakes that caused his injuries, but the last 3 years has been some of the dumbest luck I've seen in Supercross. First Jett has a rare crossrut right next to him and wipes him out. Then the greatest fluke of a race start I've ever seen, and now his contact falls out mid race causing a big crash. When the worst things imaginable aren't happening to him, he's done great. Really hope we see him outdoors and he can put together a full season without something terrible happening, because if he can I think him and Vialle could have one hell of a battle.

The Jett one is frustrating.  That was no fault of his and get glossed over. You're way off on thinking he has the pace outdoors though...

The Jett one is frustrating.  That was no fault of his and get glossed over. You're way off on thinking he has the pace outdoors though. He's much better at sx. His last podium outdoors was 2018, I believe. I'd love to see him do well outdoors and get his feet under him

ive said this a few times, hes never really been able to get a solid base on MX as hes either coming off a injury or gets hurt.

Last year towards the end of the year he was cracking into the top 5.

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5/16/2024 9:24am
There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

There's other things in life, besides Pro racing...

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Wonder how long those things stick around if the factory racer $$$,$$$ stops coming in 

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5/16/2024 9:36am
soggy wrote:

I’m sure Pops will be in here in no time to clear things up. 

pops wrote:

If you don’t want to know, I’ll keep it to myself!🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

soggy wrote:

It doesn’t matter what he does. He won’t be a factor. 

Show some class dude. What’s your deal?

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5/16/2024 10:12am

So is it Forkners back/shoulder the reason he wont be at the first round or his Lasik? My wife had Lasik and it didnt go so swell.

What about Jeremy Martin? Did I hear he isnt racing outdoors? Hes gonna do some bicycle racing? Or did I miss hear that?

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M1000 wrote:
Forkner is a good rider, and injury prone. He started pro before Jett Lawrence. Now as four years have flown by, Jett is the guy. Multi...

Forkner is a good rider, and injury prone. He started pro before Jett Lawrence. Now as four years have flown by, Jett is the guy. Multi time 250 out door champ, multi time 250 lites Supercross champion, 450 outdoor champion, and now Supercross Champ. Forkner had nothing behind his name. Time is running out. Forkner should move up to 450 class, or he will end up as 30+ Like RJ Hampshire, or a permanent fixture in 250 class. He has supercross winning speed. 

Well RJ isn’t 30… semantics I suppose

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5/17/2024 11:12pm
Langhammx wrote:
Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together...

Austin was riding really well, I hated to see him go down like that. I felt that he was finally able to put it all together. Tough kid, he’s had a rough go. 
 

a couple other up and comers that didn’t get to where they were expected to get-

Stilez Robertson

Jett Reynolds

Talon Hawkins

Ryder D

Then you have a few amateurs that should be making a name for themselves soon-

Gavin Towers

Parker Ross

Caden Braswell 

it’s not easy to break in to the big leagues. Some have a tougher go than others . 

 

mxnick wrote:

Add Vohland to that current list as well.  Alot of talented guys right there. 

Any word on Max?

Not that I am aware of, but I dont know them or anyone close to them. So no, nothing. Sorry!

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250 cross wrote:
"OK so how much does McElrath and his category make ??  I think you very much under estimate how much most of these guys make. Nic...

"OK so how much does McElrath and his category make ??  I think you very much under estimate how much most of these guys make. Nic Wey who never won a SX/national and was a privateer for several years at the end of his career was still making over a million a year(from Nic Wey interview)" 

Nic Wey did win an outdoor National. He got the overall at Millville in the 125 class, I believe it was around 1999/2000.

and nick was incredibly likable, professional and a sponsors dream of a rider to have. very good at self promotion, fan friendly and his reputation alone had sponsors lining up for him at whatever he wanted to do. he took care of his relationships and never burnt bridges for 20 years

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mxnick wrote:

Add Vohland to that current list as well.  Alot of talented guys right there. 

Any word on Max?

mxnick wrote:

Not that I am aware of, but I dont know them or anyone close to them. So no, nothing. Sorry!

Matthew said he is having complications from his hip injury. Hasn’t been on n the bike. Unlikely to be seen outdoors. 

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M1000 wrote:
Forkner is a good rider, and injury prone. He started pro before Jett Lawrence. Now as four years have flown by, Jett is the guy. Multi...

Forkner is a good rider, and injury prone. He started pro before Jett Lawrence. Now as four years have flown by, Jett is the guy. Multi time 250 out door champ, multi time 250 lites Supercross champion, 450 outdoor champion, and now Supercross Champ. Forkner had nothing behind his name. Time is running out. Forkner should move up to 450 class, or he will end up as 30+ Like RJ Hampshire, or a permanent fixture in 250 class. He has supercross winning speed. 

mavrick121 wrote:

Well RJ isn’t 30… semantics I suppose

I don’t blame guys for staying on 250s as long as possible. They probably make more than they will if they are a marginal 450 rider. A couple of 250 titles and a guy who is smart with his money can be set. 

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and nick was incredibly likable, professional and a sponsors dream of a rider to have. very good at self promotion, fan friendly and his reputation alone...

and nick was incredibly likable, professional and a sponsors dream of a rider to have. very good at self promotion, fan friendly and his reputation alone had sponsors lining up for him at whatever he wanted to do. he took care of his relationships and never burnt bridges for 20 years

And how many of todays riders can say this??

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5/18/2024 11:04am

After seeing the injuries this dude has endured, I”m pulling for him to have a safe and competitive outdoor series….. 

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Any word on Max?

mxnick wrote:

Not that I am aware of, but I dont know them or anyone close to them. So no, nothing. Sorry!

soggy wrote:

Matthew said he is having complications from his hip injury. Hasn’t been on n the bike. Unlikely to be seen outdoors. 

That's terrible! It seemed like he vibed well with his PC bike. Someone else mentioned Bo Jackson. His hip injury ended his football carrier. Greatest all around athlete of all time, imo. I'm praying Max will be ok

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