Brennan Schofield interview about his Deegan bike claim!

ace402 wrote:

I get that the situation could have been handled differently and better. But let’s use some basic human psychology. If your kids bike was being claimed...

I get that the situation could have been handled differently and better. But let’s use some basic human psychology. If your kids bike was being claimed you would probably want to know why and maybe be a little heated about it, even if it was a stock bike. Even if the rule exists, doesn’t mean people won’t get mad. Eminent domain exists but I’ve never met someone exuberant that it happened to them.

Did Brian ask the same questions everyone else would have asked if we were in his shoes? Did he cross a line and threaten the kid? Only one side to the story right now. Lots of people thought Jonny Depp was a horrible person until the defamation case went public. There are always two sides to the story, so far we only one side. Just because the Deegans and Star are mostly silent or tip toeing around it doesn’t mean everything the other side says is true.

As for Haiden, so he went to the other kids camp, I didn’t catch if he said anything to the other guy. Did he just go and look? Did he harass or threaten him? Again, if it was any of our bikes being claimed we would more than likely want to put a face to who is taking it, even if we never said a word to them.

So Brian cheated 20 years ago, does that have to mean his character is defined by that for the rest of his life? Are we all as individuals defined by a single choice we made years ago? Is he not allowed to change? Brian is not perfect but I’m proud of how he turned out compared to the person he portrayed when he was in full blown Mulisha mode at the height of his career. By all accounts he should be a statistic of how your life/relationships fall apart when you live a hard party life and make it your identity as he did as “The General” for so many years.

As for the kid claiming, he had every right to do it. He was not in the wrong to do it. However, life does have unwritten rules whether you like it or not and he learned the hard way. Breaking unwritten rules has consequences just like breaking the written ones. We don’t have to like it, but it’s true. Sometimes the unwritten rules are more real and important than the ones that are written down. Just look at the political landscape in this country for many many examples.

Even if Star doesn’t give the full details of their side of the story it would be a great gesture and probably a good PR move to give the guy a full GYTR bike as a sign of good faith. Essentially saying, things could have been handled better and we may agree to disagree but here is a sign of our humanity. We are not the cold hearted individuals that we are being portrayed as.

Chris99Flannery wrote:

Definitely adds negativity towards DangerBoi’s path. Matthes is 100% on his belief of the Deegan’s approach. Bad look for the Yamaha, MxSports and below. Awesome for...

Definitely adds negativity towards DangerBoi’s path.

Matthes is 100% on his belief of the Deegan’s approach. Bad look for the Yamaha, MxSports and below.
Awesome for the kid. Put his mind and works his ass off to do it.
Bring a full factory bike to an Amateur event and it SHOULD get claimed.
This is Pro Motocross inner circle at play here! What horseshit

APLMAN99 wrote:

I wouldn’t heap too much of the negativity on Haiden himself, like the video said he just rides what Star provides him. But it would really...

I wouldn’t heap too much of the negativity on Haiden himself, like the video said he just rides what Star provides him. But it would really be interesting to dig into who at Yamaha threatened the dealer. Since the dealer had nothing to do with the claim, you’d think that would almost be extortion trying to use that threat to get the dealership to talk the kid out of it.

Dirtysmile56 wrote:

Exactly what I was thinking. That is flat out extortion. I would have gone through with that claim and had the dealer say talk to my...

Exactly what I was thinking. That is flat out extortion. I would have gone through with that claim and had the dealer say talk to my fucking attorney.

jbrown15 wrote:

The biggiest disappointment should come in what people think of Yamaha. Why are they allowed to pressure and threaten the kids sponsor to force him to...

The biggiest disappointment should come in what people think of Yamaha. Why are they allowed to pressure and threaten the kids sponsor to force him to withdraw the claim.

That in itself is so unethical, the AMA should be stepping in and protecting people from crap like that. The rule is there for a reason, you shouldn’t have to fear what happens if you try to claim a bike.

gt80rider wrote:

Once a claim is made, it should be a rule, no take backs.... takes all the intimidation out of it... Also.... first guy to claim gets...

Once a claim is made, it should be a rule, no take backs.... takes all the intimidation out of it...

Also.... first guy to claim gets it... multiple claims will not be accepted..

Now just watch the ama take the price from double msrp, up to 50k.... or eliminate the rule completely

blockhead17 wrote:

I still can’t work out what’s more shocking.. that freakin story or the fact that Cookseys report was pretty much spot on 😮

gerg wrote:

I think we all need to spare a thought for poor old J Sloan...sitting at his keyboard right now, weeping and salivating at this news with...

I think we all need to spare a thought for poor old J Sloan...sitting at his keyboard right now, weeping and salivating at this news with his hands taped behind his back.

What a time to be in the sin bin.

ProKawi24 wrote:

It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official...

It's getting more interesting now. Brennan says it was him, Cotter, and Deegan in the room for 30 minutes but now DC is saying AMA official Mike Burkeen was also in the room and it was only 5 minutes.

Curious to see where this whole thing goes now especially if ML is able to talk with those involved. In my opinion this will just result in a "my word against theirs" situation and nothing will come from it. Maybe I'm wrong but realistically nobody is going to admit to any wrong doing and without actual evidence it really can't be escalated any further.

aeffertz wrote:

Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first...

Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first hand witnesses, which is why I tend to believe he wouldn’t lie about something as extreme as what seems to be extortion claims.

TbonesPop wrote:

Yamaha had better get their legal time involved ASAP and do some digging because there's likely some shit that they don't want to come out during...

Yamaha had better get their legal time involved ASAP and do some digging because there's likely some shit that they don't want to come out during the "discovery process". I've had to live through the discovery process in business and nothing will get past it. They will look at cell phone records, text messages, phone call records, emails, interview dealership managers and employees, telephone records, etc. All of it comes out in court and it will be blatantly obvious who's lying and who's telling the truth. The truth always comes out in situations like this if it goes down the legal path.

If what Brennan said is accurate (which should easy to verify), heads need to roll on the Yamaha side. Its disgusting, frankly. Fuck Yamaha. As for the Deegan's, I'll never support any manufacturer he rides for.

ML512 wrote:

Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston...

Even the am spec motor you wouldn’t be able to get parts for off the shelf. The am spec motor is still going to have piston, valves, cams etc that were built by a vendor to their specifications.

109 wrote:

Guaranteed you could take that motor to Jamie at TD and he would be able to make or order whatever you would need to maintain it.

ML512 wrote:

The head and piston could easily be digitized, cam spec measured out, etc. A few components could be ridiculously expensive to copy…particularly the transmission components of...

The head and piston could easily be digitized, cam spec measured out, etc.

A few components could be ridiculously expensive to copy…particularly the transmission components of the ratios are different. Potentially if a rumor holds up I heard about cam gears, crank drive gear, and cam chain being changed…that could get very pricey as well...

Crank / rod is done by crank works but they’re very loyal to the team. They wouldn’t reproduce for another customer.

But that’s exactly why Star wouldn’t want this out there wether it was an or pro Spec. The mechanical components could very easily be copied. But that’s on them for bringing a combination to a race they aren’t comfortable with losing.

Only true mystery that would never be uncovered is the ECU mapping. It would be totally locked and the only way to modify the Vortex would be to basically wipe it / re-upload the firmware.

gerg wrote:

I think we all need to spare a thought for poor old J Sloan...sitting at his keyboard right now, weeping and salivating at this news with...

I think we all need to spare a thought for poor old J Sloan...sitting at his keyboard right now, weeping and salivating at this news with his hands taped behind his back.

What a time to be in the sin bin.

defeatist45 wrote:

He got canned? Lol

gerg wrote:

I think we all need to spare a thought for poor old J Sloan...sitting at his keyboard right now, weeping and salivating at this news with...

I think we all need to spare a thought for poor old J Sloan...sitting at his keyboard right now, weeping and salivating at this news with his hands taped behind his back.

What a time to be in the sin bin.

defeatist45 wrote:

He got canned? Lol

Juck wrote:

FREE HIM ❗❗❗❗❗ #freejsloan No but seriously ML if you're reading this can you at least let him in while the Deegan drama is going on...

FREE HIM ❗❗❗❗❗ #freejsloan

No but seriously ML if you're reading this can you at least let him in while the Deegan drama is going on, he is needed right now

Spoonguy wrote:

This Schofield kid needs a lawyer.

aeffertz wrote:

Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first...

Well if Brennan’s statements are untrue, it could be a pretty straight forward defamation case that Yamaha could easily pursue, especially with the handful of first hand witnesses, which is why I tend to believe he wouldn’t lie about something as extreme as what seems to be extortion claims.

TbonesPop wrote:

Yamaha had better get their legal time involved ASAP and do some digging because there's likely some shit that they don't want to come out during...

Yamaha had better get their legal time involved ASAP and do some digging because there's likely some shit that they don't want to come out during the "discovery process". I've had to live through the discovery process in business and nothing will get past it. They will look at cell phone records, text messages, phone call records, emails, interview dealership managers and employees, telephone records, etc. All of it comes out in court and it will be blatantly obvious who's lying and who's telling the truth. The truth always comes out in situations like this if it goes down the legal path.

If what Brennan said is accurate (which should easy to verify), heads need to roll on the Yamaha side. Its disgusting, frankly. Fuck Yamaha. As for the Deegan's, I'll never support any manufacturer he rides for.

mx 219 wrote:

I disagree to an extent and here is why. Is it easier to black ball a kid or hurt Yamaha, mx sports, dealerships, sponsors? Sure maybe...

I disagree to an extent and here is why. Is it easier to black ball a kid or hurt Yamaha, mx sports, dealerships, sponsors?

Sure maybe the kid can win a lawsuit and some money, but even if he does he will still be black balled by the industry. Also, dont think Yamaha cant get the dealership to lie, cotter, deegan, etc.

Regardless if the story is 100% true or not tthe kid is the big loser. I would consider helping sponsor him though. Hopefully all sponsors wont drop him and new sponsors wont be afraid to take him on.

ace402 wrote:

I get that the situation could have been handled differently and better. But let’s use some basic human psychology. If your kids bike was being claimed...

I get that the situation could have been handled differently and better. But let’s use some basic human psychology. If your kids bike was being claimed you would probably want to know why and maybe be a little heated about it, even if it was a stock bike. Even if the rule exists, doesn’t mean people won’t get mad. Eminent domain exists but I’ve never met someone exuberant that it happened to them.

Did Brian ask the same questions everyone else would have asked if we were in his shoes? Did he cross a line and threaten the kid? Only one side to the story right now. Lots of people thought Jonny Depp was a horrible person until the defamation case went public. There are always two sides to the story, so far we only one side. Just because the Deegans and Star are mostly silent or tip toeing around it doesn’t mean everything the other side says is true.

As for Haiden, so he went to the other kids camp, I didn’t catch if he said anything to the other guy. Did he just go and look? Did he harass or threaten him? Again, if it was any of our bikes being claimed we would more than likely want to put a face to who is taking it, even if we never said a word to them.

So Brian cheated 20 years ago, does that have to mean his character is defined by that for the rest of his life? Are we all as individuals defined by a single choice we made years ago? Is he not allowed to change? Brian is not perfect but I’m proud of how he turned out compared to the person he portrayed when he was in full blown Mulisha mode at the height of his career. By all accounts he should be a statistic of how your life/relationships fall apart when you live a hard party life and make it your identity as he did as “The General” for so many years.

As for the kid claiming, he had every right to do it. He was not in the wrong to do it. However, life does have unwritten rules whether you like it or not and he learned the hard way. Breaking unwritten rules has consequences just like breaking the written ones. We don’t have to like it, but it’s true. Sometimes the unwritten rules are more real and important than the ones that are written down. Just look at the political landscape in this country for many many examples.

Even if Star doesn’t give the full details of their side of the story it would be a great gesture and probably a good PR move to give the guy a full GYTR bike as a sign of good faith. Essentially saying, things could have been handled better and we may agree to disagree but here is a sign of our humanity. We are not the cold hearted individuals that we are being portrayed as.

RCN4HIM wrote:

I agree… The father and son act like they didn’t know that they we’re going to poke a hornets nest 😏 All reactions to the timeline...

I agree… The father and son act like they didn’t know that they we’re going to poke a hornets nest 😏

All reactions to the timeline of explained events seem reasonable to me except any call to a dealer threatening bike supply should cause heads to roll 😠!

ctbale wrote:

So how did Marty Tripes take getting his honda claimed? I vaguely remember that back in the day. I bet he got his buddy the Hurricane...

So how did Marty Tripes take getting his honda claimed? I vaguely remember that back in the day. I bet he got his buddy the Hurricane to go kick the guys ass and put it behind him. Non of this putting some poor yamaha dealership out of business or pulling minors into trailers or following people around in the pits in thier side-by-sides ...... by god!

ace402 wrote:

I get that the situation could have been handled differently and better. But let’s use some basic human psychology. If your kids bike was being claimed...

I get that the situation could have been handled differently and better. But let’s use some basic human psychology. If your kids bike was being claimed you would probably want to know why and maybe be a little heated about it, even if it was a stock bike. Even if the rule exists, doesn’t mean people won’t get mad. Eminent domain exists but I’ve never met someone exuberant that it happened to them.

Did Brian ask the same questions everyone else would have asked if we were in his shoes? Did he cross a line and threaten the kid? Only one side to the story right now. Lots of people thought Jonny Depp was a horrible person until the defamation case went public. There are always two sides to the story, so far we only one side. Just because the Deegans and Star are mostly silent or tip toeing around it doesn’t mean everything the other side says is true.

As for Haiden, so he went to the other kids camp, I didn’t catch if he said anything to the other guy. Did he just go and look? Did he harass or threaten him? Again, if it was any of our bikes being claimed we would more than likely want to put a face to who is taking it, even if we never said a word to them.

So Brian cheated 20 years ago, does that have to mean his character is defined by that for the rest of his life? Are we all as individuals defined by a single choice we made years ago? Is he not allowed to change? Brian is not perfect but I’m proud of how he turned out compared to the person he portrayed when he was in full blown Mulisha mode at the height of his career. By all accounts he should be a statistic of how your life/relationships fall apart when you live a hard party life and make it your identity as he did as “The General” for so many years.

As for the kid claiming, he had every right to do it. He was not in the wrong to do it. However, life does have unwritten rules whether you like it or not and he learned the hard way. Breaking unwritten rules has consequences just like breaking the written ones. We don’t have to like it, but it’s true. Sometimes the unwritten rules are more real and important than the ones that are written down. Just look at the political landscape in this country for many many examples.

Even if Star doesn’t give the full details of their side of the story it would be a great gesture and probably a good PR move to give the guy a full GYTR bike as a sign of good faith. Essentially saying, things could have been handled better and we may agree to disagree but here is a sign of our humanity. We are not the cold hearted individuals that we are being portrayed as.

azrb wrote:

Yamaha should have had Floracing stream that interview with Schofield