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kpiper 5/29/2022 5:13pm
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yota wrote:
all you guys saying fuck it, I'll just watch it on YouTube every week. It was only on YouTube this once because they knew they fucked...
all you guys saying fuck it, I'll just watch it on YouTube every week. It was only on YouTube this once because they knew they fucked up. the races will not be on YouTube every week.
Funny...moto racers are not the brightest you know. Smile
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kpiper 5/29/2022 5:16pm
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Sounds like the PR department weren't on the same page and it was all a big fuck up. It was advertised like the MAVTV+ package was...
Sounds like the PR department weren't on the same page and it was all a big fuck up.

It was advertised like the MAVTV+ package was possibly going to get PIP for commercials, but it now sounds like the PIP was intended for the regular MAVTV broadcast while MAVTV+ is intended to be commercial free.

It's a mess, but I think it'll all be sorted out for round 2.
They were asked over and over about the commercials but refused to answer the question. Seems like they don't even have a PR department.

Really, no excuse the tech didn't work Saturday. 10 years ago? Yea. Not today though. They had to of gone on the cheap for a failure of this scale. Moto is a tiny viewing audience.
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yota wrote:
all you guys saying fuck it, I'll just watch it on YouTube every week. It was only on YouTube this once because they knew they fucked...
all you guys saying fuck it, I'll just watch it on YouTube every week. It was only on YouTube this once because they knew they fucked up. the races will not be on YouTube every week.
kpiper wrote:
Funny...moto racers are not the brightest you know. Smile
Pretty sure they mean they will wait to watch the highlights, which might be the right move as the high lists could have more racing than the actual broadcast
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kpiper 5/29/2022 5:21pm
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I disagree with the notion that DC is milking our sport. Just my opinion but I refuse to be jaded and honestly think he wants what's...

I disagree with the notion that DC is milking our sport. Just my opinion but I refuse to be jaded and honestly think he wants what's best for our sport. He's a motocross lifer like very few can claim to be. It's obvious he still lives this sport. Not to mention what other promoter is as open with fellow fans as he is? We are fortunate he posts here and that is a sign that he is one of us. This too shall pass.
While I defended DC in earlier posts there are many promoters who would love to take over the Nationals. AND they may even do a better job. Yes, there is risk but this is also a cash cow for him. The local track owner takes a bigger risk than Davey on a National.

How many moto promoters do you know? I have never met one that put the sanctity or even the good of the sport above their own wallet. No excuse for the coverage issues last Saturday.
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mx196 5/29/2022 6:35pm
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Literally waited until the coverage was over, motos weren’t uploaded, waited three hours, went to bed, then when the motos were up in the morning and there was a highlight video thumbnail that spoiled the entire fucking thing.

Absolute dogshit. Especially when DC said they’d be uploaded immediately after. I do feel sold low key and there’s zero way this benefits anyone except MX sports. Fans got fucked.

Was there a refresh option I missed or did other people have this problem when trying to watch the replay?
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Honestly I thought it was going to have commercials, just not like what we got. I remember someone, maybe it was DC, saying they were going...
Honestly I thought it was going to have commercials, just not like what we got. I remember someone, maybe it was DC, saying they were going to have picture-in-picture for the commercials, so we wouldn't miss any of the racing. Could be wrong on that.
The red flag for mavtv that bugged me from the get go is i was going to have to hook my laptop up to my 6 month old smart tv just to watch the race. That's asinine in this day and age.
Chromecast is your friend, or fire stick, and I think Apple has casting options too.
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mx196 wrote:
Literally waited until the coverage was over, motos weren’t uploaded, waited three hours, went to bed, then when the motos were up in the morning and...
Literally waited until the coverage was over, motos weren’t uploaded, waited three hours, went to bed, then when the motos were up in the morning and there was a highlight video thumbnail that spoiled the entire fucking thing.

Absolute dogshit. Especially when DC said they’d be uploaded immediately after. I do feel sold low key and there’s zero way this benefits anyone except MX sports. Fans got fucked.

Was there a refresh option I missed or did other people have this problem when trying to watch the replay?
I had to close and re-open the app for the replays to show up.
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CR92 5/29/2022 7:21pm
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Honestly I thought it was going to have commercials, just not like what we got. I remember someone, maybe it was DC, saying they were going...
Honestly I thought it was going to have commercials, just not like what we got. I remember someone, maybe it was DC, saying they were going to have picture-in-picture for the commercials, so we wouldn't miss any of the racing. Could be wrong on that.
The red flag for mavtv that bugged me from the get go is i was going to have to hook my laptop up to my 6 month old smart tv just to watch the race. That's asinine in this day and age.
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Chromecast is your friend, or fire stick, and I think Apple has casting options too.
No shit. The whole reason I got a smart tv was so I didn't have to use any of those, and I can get every single other streaming app, except this one. That was my point.
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I streamed the races from the phone app to the TV today. No commercials, video quality seemed better than peacock.

I hardly ever watch the outdoors live, too much to do Saturday afternoons in the summer.
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Mit12 5/29/2022 10:29pm
5/29/2022 10:29pm Edited Date/Time 5/29/2022 10:31pm
Well MAVTV on DirecTV comes in perfect, I record it so essentially no commercials. I hate the idea of streaming. 1 it will not grow the sport, 2 internet in my area is junk so streaming during the day is garbage. But on that note if MAVTV Plus streaming is pulling the load and making it possible for MAVTV on main stream TV to carry both motos, I am all for you guys spending your money for the streaming that you complain about every season.
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Roczoff 5/29/2022 11:25pm
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Didn't read every comment, so...

When I tried to watch live, the MAVTV Plus page wouldn't load. After the race ended, and I tried to watch the replay, Google told me that the site was unsafe, hackers were going to drug me and steal a kidney, and that I was completely blocked from accessing the site.

It took them a long time to make the replay available, but I watched the replay today, commercial-free, with no issues. I liked RJ and MC -especially some of the laughs- and JT nailed it in his first try.
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I watched the races on replay because I wasn’t able to watch live and there were no commercials
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TXDirt 5/30/2022 8:14am
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zehn wrote:
I watched the races on replay because I wasn’t able to watch live and there were no commercials
It seems the replays don’t have commercials. But the live feed did on Saturday for those who paid for the subscription. The FREE feed on YouTube they provided was commercial free.

Hopefully this was just all technical difficulties.

Definite disaster from a product perspective.
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Jeremy Macduff 5/30/2022 8:23am
5/30/2022 8:23am Edited Date/Time 5/30/2022 8:23am
What a steaming pile of shit MavTV is. I cannot believe I paid for this.

Never, ever, ever again will I give my money to MavTV. If this is what the rest of the season is going to be like, US outdoor motocross can go fuck itself.
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TbonesPop 5/30/2022 8:26am
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zehn wrote:
I watched the races on replay because I wasn’t able to watch live and there were no commercials
So if that's the case, I'm going to go put in some motos of my own on Saturday morning and after coming home, washing the bikes, taking a shower, and getting a bite to eat, I'll go sit down and watch the races same day but on replay commercial free. Winner!
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RedRider28 5/30/2022 8:29am
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CR92 wrote:
Honestly I thought it was going to have commercials, just not like what we got. I remember someone, maybe it was DC, saying they were going...
Honestly I thought it was going to have commercials, just not like what we got. I remember someone, maybe it was DC, saying they were going to have picture-in-picture for the commercials, so we wouldn't miss any of the racing. Could be wrong on that.
The red flag for mavtv that bugged me from the get go is i was going to have to hook my laptop up to my 6 month old smart tv just to watch the race. That's asinine in this day and age.
Timo wrote:
Chromecast is your friend, or fire stick, and I think Apple has casting options too.
CR92 wrote:
No shit. The whole reason I got a smart tv was so I didn't have to use any of those, and I can get every single...
No shit. The whole reason I got a smart tv was so I didn't have to use any of those, and I can get every single other streaming app, except this one. That was my point.
100% agreed, I have 3 Smart TV’s that all have zero issues being able to download Peacock to them. They switch the Nationals to MAVTV+ and the only way I can do it is to either cast from my phone (which normally is laggy even with great internet) or I have to buy/plug in another streaming option like a Firestick/Roku because every one of my streaming boxes are AndroidTV based/along with 2 of my Sony Smart TV’s and even though they say on their website it’s available on AndroidTV it isn’t in the Google Play Store. Super frustrating, I skipped purchasing it.
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byke 5/30/2022 8:47am
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How on earth is this at nine pages.
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RonSkj 5/30/2022 9:17am
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How on earth is this at nine pages.
9 pages and still no response from DC.
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yak651 5/30/2022 9:25am
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I agree this was a shot show but I call BS on fans that post here saying you won’t be watching the rest of the season. There’s no way you are a big enough fan to bitch on here yet not watch the races no matter how shitty the broadcast is…I mean come on we are used to being screwed over and we come back week after week, just like the privateer racers
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I watched MXGP yesterday. 35min of uninterrupted racing. No stupid information about crew or legends of the sport in the middle of the race. No promotion of other broadcasts, No commercials.

Like night and day in difference. Makes it difficult to watch AMA in comparison.

Forget the technical issues, YouTube worked great. But the product DC and Lucas Oil put out was not good.
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profeshenal125 5/30/2022 9:41am
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byke wrote:
How on earth is this at nine pages.
I don’t know man. There complaining about commercials and everything. A commercial gives me a sec to pull a tear off and adjust my goggles. I think they might complain if they where at the race. Because it’s not as clear or there’s no replay.
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byke 5/30/2022 10:06am
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I suppose on the plus side, this amount of complaining is more likely to lead to some changes.
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TerryB 5/30/2022 10:28am
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aees wrote:
I watched MXGP yesterday. 35min of uninterrupted racing. No stupid information about crew or legends of the sport in the middle of the race. No promotion...
I watched MXGP yesterday. 35min of uninterrupted racing. No stupid information about crew or legends of the sport in the middle of the race. No promotion of other broadcasts, No commercials.

Like night and day in difference. Makes it difficult to watch AMA in comparison.

Forget the technical issues, YouTube worked great. But the product DC and Lucas Oil put out was not good.
In My Opinion:

Part of the difference in coverage between MXGP/MotoGP, and the product we get, is simply "who" it is being marketed to.

We have had discussions here about the difference between Euro podium speeches and US podium speeches. The American version is just a list of sponsor names to mention, or be fined by said sponsors. Again, who is the audience they are catering to?

(Here comes the hate)... American consumerism, Corporatism and Capitalism has conditioned us to a non-stop type2 diabetes diet of advertising. Don't get me wrong, I am a staunch Capitalist, and I like ice cream too, but too much of a good thing will just make me another fat, disgusting American. Again, I believe whole-heartedly in Capitalism, but profit should NEVER be put before quality of product. Unfortunately, that seems to be the ONLY thing that matters anymore. Profit. Advertising everywhere, all the time. Gross, undisciplined consumerism.

So, we get a shitty product, aimed mainly at getting us to purchase more shitty products.
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Zycki11 5/30/2022 10:40am
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aees wrote:
I watched MXGP yesterday. 35min of uninterrupted racing. No stupid information about crew or legends of the sport in the middle of the race. No promotion...
I watched MXGP yesterday. 35min of uninterrupted racing. No stupid information about crew or legends of the sport in the middle of the race. No promotion of other broadcasts, No commercials.

Like night and day in difference. Makes it difficult to watch AMA in comparison.

Forget the technical issues, YouTube worked great. But the product DC and Lucas Oil put out was not good.
TerryB wrote:
In My Opinion: Part of the difference in coverage between MXGP/MotoGP, and the product we get, is simply "who" it is being marketed to. We have...
In My Opinion:

Part of the difference in coverage between MXGP/MotoGP, and the product we get, is simply "who" it is being marketed to.

We have had discussions here about the difference between Euro podium speeches and US podium speeches. The American version is just a list of sponsor names to mention, or be fined by said sponsors. Again, who is the audience they are catering to?

(Here comes the hate)... American consumerism, Corporatism and Capitalism has conditioned us to a non-stop type2 diabetes diet of advertising. Don't get me wrong, I am a staunch Capitalist, and I like ice cream too, but too much of a good thing will just make me another fat, disgusting American. Again, I believe whole-heartedly in Capitalism, but profit should NEVER be put before quality of product. Unfortunately, that seems to be the ONLY thing that matters anymore. Profit. Advertising everywhere, all the time. Gross, undisciplined consumerism.

So, we get a shitty product, aimed mainly at getting us to purchase more shitty products.
Yeah no, many riders like Kenny, Reedy, etc spoke like they should on the podium. They actually answered the question posed. Not the Dungey PR response that is the norm. This has zero to do with capitalism blah blah blah. It has everything to do with riders keeping things close to their vest and our media posing generic everyday questions.

If you want examples look no further than JT and how he actually had something to say mixed with his questions. This allows the riders to feel comfortable speaking their mind more.

As far as overall product? Yeah it’s dog shit, and it has been indoors and out for years when it comes to tv production. Why they continue to believe they will draw in outside audience with the watered down crap they put on the screen and announcing(Not Weege) is beyond me. People get into things to learn about them, and are not interested in a generic comment by someone who has the ability to speak with experience and precision in the matter.

All in all, it’s a joke and has been. Unfortunately for the moto crowd, we have been dealing with it for a long time and we have accepted it because we can’t get better. I just don’t understand how a producer is happy with the product they put out? I would want the program to be packed with insightful information and cool features between the motos instead of waisting time with graphs etc.

They can do much better.

For the record, my comments about announcing are in general. Jeremy and RJ in my opinion did an excellent job. The insight is what people like to hear similar to Bailey.
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lestat 5/30/2022 11:04am
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aees wrote:
I watched MXGP yesterday. 35min of uninterrupted racing. No stupid information about crew or legends of the sport in the middle of the race. No promotion...
I watched MXGP yesterday. 35min of uninterrupted racing. No stupid information about crew or legends of the sport in the middle of the race. No promotion of other broadcasts, No commercials.

Like night and day in difference. Makes it difficult to watch AMA in comparison.

Forget the technical issues, YouTube worked great. But the product DC and Lucas Oil put out was not good.
TerryB wrote:
In My Opinion: Part of the difference in coverage between MXGP/MotoGP, and the product we get, is simply "who" it is being marketed to. We have...
In My Opinion:

Part of the difference in coverage between MXGP/MotoGP, and the product we get, is simply "who" it is being marketed to.

We have had discussions here about the difference between Euro podium speeches and US podium speeches. The American version is just a list of sponsor names to mention, or be fined by said sponsors. Again, who is the audience they are catering to?

(Here comes the hate)... American consumerism, Corporatism and Capitalism has conditioned us to a non-stop type2 diabetes diet of advertising. Don't get me wrong, I am a staunch Capitalist, and I like ice cream too, but too much of a good thing will just make me another fat, disgusting American. Again, I believe whole-heartedly in Capitalism, but profit should NEVER be put before quality of product. Unfortunately, that seems to be the ONLY thing that matters anymore. Profit. Advertising everywhere, all the time. Gross, undisciplined consumerism.

So, we get a shitty product, aimed mainly at getting us to purchase more shitty products.
Total agreement with you both . MXGP laps the field in race coverage .
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-MAVERICK- 5/30/2022 11:20am
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byke wrote:
How on earth is this at nine pages.
RonSkj wrote:
9 pages and still no response from DC.
Go to page 8. He made a post on Instagram.
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RonSkj 5/30/2022 11:23am
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byke wrote:
How on earth is this at nine pages.
RonSkj wrote:
9 pages and still no response from DC.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Go to page 8. He made a post on Instagram.
Will there you go, all settled. Dry
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centralcalmx 5/30/2022 11:31am
5/30/2022 11:31am
byke wrote:
How on earth is this at nine pages.
RonSkj wrote:
9 pages and still no response from DC.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Go to page 8. He made a post on Instagram.
DC has a pretty long history of jumping on to Vital and chiming in.
To bad this has not been of those times he felt the need to do so.
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RonSkj wrote:
9 pages and still no response from DC.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Go to page 8. He made a post on Instagram.
centralcalmx wrote:
DC has a pretty long history of jumping on to Vital and chiming in. To bad this has not been of those times he felt the...
DC has a pretty long history of jumping on to Vital and chiming in.
To bad this has not been of those times he felt the need to do so.
I responded to his IG post and said "Whatever you do, don't log onto Vital." lol
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scott_nz 5/30/2022 11:51am
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lestat wrote:
Total agreement with you both . MXGP laps the field in race coverage .
Mxgp is much better , it shows that the production is geared up for the live stream , both us mx and sx are still trying to produce for network tv and try to dumb it down for the average person ,

I’d be really interested to know what number of subscribers mxgp have
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