You can change one thing about this sport. What do you change?

12/8/2020 12:23am
I’d choose to have a better class of person involved in it.
I can’t say for US, but in the UK we’ve attracted quite an undesirable crew.
Fighting, swearing, disrespecting, stealing, weed smoking (in the pits) (don’t have a problem with it away from the track) wheelie boys- the list sadly goes on.

Thirty years ago it was very different.
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js451
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12/8/2020 1:06am
Malcolm Stewart to ride outdoors again
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Talisker
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12/8/2020 1:38am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2020 1:43am
Wish there was no East and West for 250 Supercross. Stack them all up and let them race a full series. No pointing out of 250. Let riders move up and back down if they wish. Make 125 and 250 2 Stroke the East and West Series.
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12/8/2020 1:51am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2020 1:55am
Create MXGP as the main world circuit like motogp or F1, scrap AMA motocross add 4-6 tracks from America and have the series finish in America, It would be a true premier circuit.

And supercross stays as is, since everyone finishes in America the euros can choose to ride SX season if they like.
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12/8/2020 2:53am
Sport was better on two strokes.... particularly sad that world level 125 racing has disappeared.
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ctbale
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12/8/2020 3:04am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2020 3:05am
More open areas to ride like when I was a kid. Bring more kids into the sport that way. And more rideable, less expensive entry level bikes. (Not gunna happen, but there it is anyway)
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12/8/2020 3:24am
Injuries, cost of racing, more spots and tracks to ride!
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12/8/2020 3:49am
More tracks, I’m pretty blessed where I am, but more would be cool.

Cheaper

I was faster 🤣
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12/8/2020 4:12am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2020 4:16am
The second fastest rider in the history of the sport is just a tad bit slower than me.
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12/8/2020 4:17am
Bring back the two-day format at the Nationals with a 125 two-stroke class.
Stop promoting Supercross as if it were a Monster Truck Rally.
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12/8/2020 4:50am
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Indy mxer
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12/8/2020 4:55am
Do away with the east/west in 250SX. It's past time to combine these so we can see all the 250 riders compete each week. Then come up with some sort of feeder class.

Or at least make Daytona an E/W race.
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Rupert X
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12/8/2020 5:00am
The Riders Meeting. Never really get to meet any riders there, it’s boring AF, no hot chicks, nothing fun about it.
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12/8/2020 5:08am Edited Date/Time 12/8/2020 5:10am
125 feeder class

125-250cc east/west

450 open
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12/8/2020 5:09am
UpTiTe wrote:
Training facilities, they do more harm than good.
bents wrote:
Huh, never thought of this of all the things I thought about. Just curious, why do you say this?
They learn how to ride, they don’t learn how to race which is very evident by the failure rate of recent 250 riders.

They are all learning the same things and training the same ways. Their bikes are setup for them and they ride them without knowing how to actually setup a bike. They all ride together doing lap after lap but never truly learn proper technique.

Look at how better the guys ride who didn’t grow up in a facility ride, Roczen, Tomac and the Lawrence brothers all grew up racing and all have so much better technique. Vohland didn’t grow up in a facility and has fantastic style and is a great racer because he grew up racing every weekend.

Personally, if I had a young kid that was full of potential, I’d had him in the GP system until he was about 18. Doing 6 laps at Lorettas isn’t teaching anyone anything.

So I guess along with facilities, I’d overhaul our amateur system too.
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12/8/2020 5:24am
No more "participation" trophy's at the amateur level. Get rid of about 2/3 of the classes and run real motos!
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12/8/2020 5:28am
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Lack of understanding by people outside the sport in regards to the fitness level required for motocross compared to other sports. Everyone thinks the bike does...
Lack of understanding by people outside the sport in regards to the fitness level required for motocross compared to other sports. Everyone thinks the bike does all the work.
That’s it?? Of all the things you could change, you would choose to change what people OUTSIDE of the sport think about the fitness of the...
That’s it??

Of all the things you could change, you would choose to change what people OUTSIDE of the sport think about the fitness of the athletes??

Really?? I’m sure most people couldn’t give a damn what other people think?’

#priorities
It’s bigger than that, but I didn’t want to write a novel.

If people outside the sport understood it better, especially the talent and physical fitness required when compared to other sports, it would (hopefully) get people to develop a respect for MX/SX and view it as an actual sport and not some circus sideshow like monster trucks.

So why do I give a shit how outsiders view MX/SX? Because I think if people see it as a sport on a similar playing field with other sports, meaning they have developed a respect for the riders and view them as legitimate athletes, interest and viewership will go up which results in sponsor dollars flowing in which results in guys getting paid, teams not shutting down, and positive changes that benefit everyone. Maybe if more people viewed it as a sport, they would push to shut down MX tracks as hard as they push to shut down soccer fields or baseball fields(not very hard).

In summary, I was just using physical fitness as a way to relate to outsiders in an effort to grow the sport and hopefully help teams stay afloat, privateers get paid, tracks stay open etc. Not everyone has ridden a motorcycle, so they can’t relate. But they have gone to gym class, so I think fitness is a possible angle.

Now, it’ll never happen, but this question was hypothetical.
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12/8/2020 5:38am
Injuries, cost of racing, more spots and tracks to ride!
This!
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12/8/2020 5:45am
UpTiTe wrote:
Training facilities, they do more harm than good.
bents wrote:
Huh, never thought of this of all the things I thought about. Just curious, why do you say this?
UpTiTe wrote:
They learn how to ride, they don’t learn how to race which is very evident by the failure rate of recent 250 riders. They are all...
They learn how to ride, they don’t learn how to race which is very evident by the failure rate of recent 250 riders.

They are all learning the same things and training the same ways. Their bikes are setup for them and they ride them without knowing how to actually setup a bike. They all ride together doing lap after lap but never truly learn proper technique.

Look at how better the guys ride who didn’t grow up in a facility ride, Roczen, Tomac and the Lawrence brothers all grew up racing and all have so much better technique. Vohland didn’t grow up in a facility and has fantastic style and is a great racer because he grew up racing every weekend.

Personally, if I had a young kid that was full of potential, I’d had him in the GP system until he was about 18. Doing 6 laps at Lorettas isn’t teaching anyone anything.

So I guess along with facilities, I’d overhaul our amateur system too.
Also, because they are all training together like a team, there is no individuality, no seeking an edge, no pushing beyond.

Structure can be the enemy, as well as the guide

Think all the stuff JS7 developed on his own would've been as big an edge if everyone else around him was developing the same techniques simultaneously?
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12/8/2020 5:46am
I do miss pit floosies

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racin mason
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12/8/2020 6:15am
EngIceDave wrote:
I do miss pit floosies

They are still here, you are just to damn old to notice......
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12/8/2020 6:22am
Accessible tracks, and pro's doing a better job promoting their sport, i.e. riding more public tracks, vice the "private or training tracks", wilson does a good job. When Alessi was AMA you would see him regularly at a lot of the tracks in North Fl. WW ranch is the big track here now now, but has become less accessible for the weekend warrior, trying to establish themselves as a training track. I understand their decision, but it is sort of cool to watch the pros ride.
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12/8/2020 6:37am
No 450's
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12/8/2020 6:43am
I know it said one thing, but I expanded a little...


1 - Equal Displacement

2 - For some manufacturer, I don't care who, to offer a cheap (3-4K} 125 to bring more people into the sport. It doesn't have to be the most advanced bike ever made, just decent suspension, and reliable. Something that would fly out of stores, and promoters would have to build classes around.

3 - Bring back a short Trans AMA series in the fall. Just 3 to 4 races at classic tracks. MXGP guys vs AMA.

4 - I'd love to see an American who is near the top of the sport in AMA run the MXGP's. Not someone who can't get a ride here, or is in the twilight of their career.

5 - Lastly a return to more natural outdoor tracks. leave the supercross style jumps indoors.
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EngIceDave
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12/8/2020 6:44am
EngIceDave wrote:
I do miss pit floosies

They are still here, you are just to damn old to notice......
Or their so damn young now it freaks me out
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12/8/2020 6:55am
EngIceDave wrote:
I do miss pit floosies

They are still here, you are just to damn old to notice......
EngIceDave wrote:
Or their so damn young now it freaks me out
It's just not the same when you meet a nice young lady at the track and she tells you she's there to watch her grandson race
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12/8/2020 7:07am
They are still here, you are just to damn old to notice......
EngIceDave wrote:
Or their so damn young now it freaks me out
GrapeApe wrote:
It's just not the same when you meet a nice young lady at the track and she tells you she's there to watch her grandson race
HAR.
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12/8/2020 7:14am
1. Slow down the progression. Go back to rough tracks not big jumps.
2. There should be a 125 pro class for riders transitioning from minis to big bikes. A125 pro class would give them the opportunity to race at a pro level without the pro- injuries.
3. Cost: a new bike is over $10000. Not including suzuki
4. More places to ride (esp in ny) lol
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12/8/2020 7:16am
EngIceDave wrote:
I do miss pit floosies

They are still here, you are just to damn old to notice......
EngIceDave wrote:
Or their so damn young now it freaks me out
And we are old enough to be invisible to them.
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12/8/2020 7:24am
They are still here, you are just to damn old to notice......
EngIceDave wrote:
Or their so damn young now it freaks me out
mx317 wrote:
And we are old enough to be invisible to them.
and "that creepy guy" if you speak to or look at them
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