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eins4eins wrote:

Once all those illegal aliens are deported, whom of you will take over all the jobs they worked? 

truck wrote:

If slavery is outlawed, who will pick the cotton? 

Nice rebuttal…💯👍🏻

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Sully wrote:
You ever think that maybe it's not that Americans (or legal immigrants) won't do the jobs, but rather they won't do the jobs for the low...

You ever think that maybe it's not that Americans (or legal immigrants) won't do the jobs, but rather they won't do the jobs for the low wage that illegals are willing to do them for?

Jeffro802 wrote:
You are exactly right. Unfortunately the price of your roof, fence, driveway, etc just went up. That dinner is gonna cost a little more too since...

You are exactly right. Unfortunately the price of your roof, fence, driveway, etc just went up. That dinner is gonna cost a little more too since the dish washer in the back is getting paid more. 

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“Keep ‘em around so we can treat them like slave labor so prices don't go up” is a pretty bold take. Probably not the one I...

“Keep ‘em around so we can treat them like slave labor so prices don't go up” is a pretty bold take. Probably not the one I would have gone with, but hey, you do you. 

Trump campaigned and promised to bring prices down. I’m not saying it’s right to pay people less than the job deserves, but those are the consequences for being here illegally. I think people should be here legally and earn what the job deserves, but expect to pay more. And take note that the president continues to lie and fool his voters. Maybe this is why he “loves the poorly educated”

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The point I was unsuccessfully ? trying to make was there's good immigrants here as well bad immigrants here. That's all. Just like there's good cops...

The point I was unsuccessfully ? trying to make was there's good immigrants here as well bad immigrants here. That's all. Just like there's good cops and bad cops. Ideally the ones with criminal backgrounds get deported. And the ones here working with no criminal records or arrests are given the chance to stay by going through the proper channels. Like it's supposed to work . I know "Just being here is a crime so therefore they are criminals" mindset is popular. But I'm having a hard time calling the hard working ones who came her for a better life criminals. Hell we opened up the door and made it easy for them, how can you blame them for coming here, why wouldn't they ?  Anyway, those guys are ok in my book, they're not out stirring up shit, they're just laying low and trying to work hard for better life. The Mexican flag waving rioters aren't doing them any favors.      

Exactly.

Which is why we should be spending all this money on hiring more immigration judges instead of conducting ice raids, deploying guards, deploying troops, and throwing parades (which would be an actual attempt to fix the situation) but that's a preventative measure and America don't believe in prevention when we could give money directly to the people who profit off punishment. History has shown us how much better it is to have a billionaire class rule with fear than support... that strategy has never gone wrong, no, not once, not never.

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Exactly.Which is why we should be spending all this money on hiring more immigration judges instead of conducting ice raids, deploying guards, deploying troops, and throwing...

Exactly.

Which is why we should be spending all this money on hiring more immigration judges instead of conducting ice raids, deploying guards, deploying troops, and throwing parades (which would be an actual attempt to fix the situation) but that's a preventative measure and America don't believe in prevention when we could give money directly to the people who profit off punishment. History has shown us how much better it is to have a billionaire class rule with fear than support... that strategy has never gone wrong, no, not once, not never.

You will be so happy when you move to France

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Jeffro802 wrote:
Trump campaigned and promised to bring prices down. I’m not saying it’s right to pay people less than the job deserves, but those are the consequences...

Trump campaigned and promised to bring prices down. I’m not saying it’s right to pay people less than the job deserves, but those are the consequences for being here illegally. I think people should be here legally and earn what the job deserves, but expect to pay more. And take note that the president continues to lie and fool his voters. Maybe this is why he “loves the poorly educated”

Don’t all politicians including all presidents lie to their constituents? It’s nothing new.

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6/12/2025 6:56am
eins4eins wrote:

Once all those illegal aliens are deported, whom of you will take over all the jobs they worked? 

Sully wrote:
You ever think that maybe it's not that Americans (or legal immigrants) won't do the jobs, but rather they won't do the jobs for the low...

You ever think that maybe it's not that Americans (or legal immigrants) won't do the jobs, but rather they won't do the jobs for the low wage that illegals are willing to do them for?

Jeffro802 wrote:
You are exactly right. Unfortunately the price of your roof, fence, driveway, etc just went up. That dinner is gonna cost a little more too since...

You are exactly right. Unfortunately the price of your roof, fence, driveway, etc just went up. That dinner is gonna cost a little more too since the dish washer in the back is getting paid more. 

No, you're wrong. Reducing the number of illegal aliens in the country reduces the tax burden on all of us. Good companies will still provide a service at a competitive price, and all that shit you listed has gone way up "because COVID" and "Inflation" along with everything else. We all got fucked by COVID, and I don't ever remember seeing prices go so out of control over "ICE Raids." 

The truth is, Trump and Homan are targeting violent Illegal Aliens. This has been explained in press briefings multiple times. The media cherry picks a case here and there to foment rage, and start this bullshit. Remember Elian Gonzalez?

Under Biden, immigration surged to 200,000-300,000 per month until December '24, likely due to winter and Biden/Harris's Presidential Campaign kicked into gear. Now the numbers are flat at around 30,000 per month.

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This year (up to May) there have been 135,000 deportations. Compare that with the deportations of past Presidents, and it's shocking!

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On a related note, didn’t Obama deport more illegals than any other president?

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Maybe trump should have called in the marines to deal with the Jan 6th rioters..

Maybe he would have if it had been called the Jan 6-11th riot.

 

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EVH4Ever wrote:

On a related note, didn’t Obama deport more illegals than any other president?

How was he on due process?

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"We have to kick out the immigrants so we can give the jobs to good, hard working, red blooded Ameri... I mean, machinery, yeah we lied...

"We have to kick out the immigrants so we can give the jobs to good, hard working, red blooded Ameri... I mean, machinery, yeah we lied, we're going to give it to machinery."

Don't forgot how we're going to fill the stop gap, Joey! With big scary criminals! Not only can we pay them less than immigrants we found out – thanks to these beautiful ice raids – how few fucks people give about their fellow man if you convince them they're bad people so we can shift the goal post a teenie tiny bit and round up even more people, legal or not!!! GOOOOooooooo TEAM! Capitalism! WOOHOO! Get rid of the immigrants so the billionaire robot builders can make more money!!! XOXO

That's lovely, now do "AI in Hollywood".

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Chance1216 wrote:
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EVH4Ever wrote:

On a related note, didn’t Obama deport more illegals than any other president?

Clinton won that one.

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Chance1216 wrote:
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EVH4Ever wrote:

On a related note, didn’t Obama deport more illegals than any other president?

According to the chart posted right above you, under Clinton almost double were deported compared to Obama

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sumdood wrote:
The point I was unsuccessfully ? trying to make was there's good immigrants here as well bad immigrants here. That's all. Just like there's good cops...

The point I was unsuccessfully ? trying to make was there's good immigrants here as well bad immigrants here. That's all. Just like there's good cops and bad cops. Ideally the ones with criminal backgrounds get deported. And the ones here working with no criminal records or arrests are given the chance to stay by going through the proper channels. Like it's supposed to work . I know "Just being here is a crime so therefore they are criminals" mindset is popular. But I'm having a hard time calling the hard working ones who came her for a better life criminals. Hell we opened up the door and made it easy for them, how can you blame them for coming here, why wouldn't they ?  Anyway, those guys are ok in my book, they're not out stirring up shit, they're just laying low and trying to work hard for better life. The Mexican flag waving rioters aren't doing them any favors.      

Exactly.Which is why we should be spending all this money on hiring more immigration judges instead of conducting ice raids, deploying guards, deploying troops, and throwing...

Exactly.

Which is why we should be spending all this money on hiring more immigration judges instead of conducting ice raids, deploying guards, deploying troops, and throwing parades (which would be an actual attempt to fix the situation) but that's a preventative measure and America don't believe in prevention when we could give money directly to the people who profit off punishment. History has shown us how much better it is to have a billionaire class rule with fear than support... that strategy has never gone wrong, no, not once, not never.

So just put a post on indeed looking for "immigration judges" and that'll fix it? 

You should go back and read some of the things you post on here..... so desperate to sound intellectual but you come across as a wide eyed college freshman who thinks they have all the answers 6 weeks into a bunch of intro courses.

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So just put a post on indeed looking for "immigration judges" and that'll fix it? You should go back and read some of the things you post...

So just put a post on indeed looking for "immigration judges" and that'll fix it? 

You should go back and read some of the things you post on here..... so desperate to sound intellectual but you come across as a wide eyed college freshman who thinks they have all the answers 6 weeks into a bunch of intro courses.

How long is it going to take develop all the technology required to replace immigrants and bring back manufacturing to America so that prices reduce to a level that makes us competitive with China?

You should go back and read some of the things you post on here..... so desperate to sound intellectual but you come across as a wide eyed college freshman who thinks they have all the answers 6 weeks into a bunch of intro courses.

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Same folks who told us the border was secure are now telling us 20 million motherfucking illegal immigrants deserve due process. 

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EVH4Ever wrote:

On a related note, didn’t Obama deport more illegals than any other president?

According to the chart posted right above you, under Clinton almost double were deported compared to Obama

So you guys are saying that Democrats are better at this than Republicans?

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a well thought out targeted approach.

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So you guys are saying that Democrats are better at this than Republicans?

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a well thought out targeted approach.

Where was your outrage when the Democrats did it? Why did the Democrats deport so many illegal aliens? Why are deportations so low right now?

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EVH4Ever wrote:

On a related note, didn’t Obama deport more illegals than any other president?

According to the chart posted right above you, under Clinton almost double were deported compared to Obama

So you guys are saying that Democrats are better at this than Republicans?

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a well thought out targeted approach.

I think the point is going over your head. 

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According to the chart posted right above you, under Clinton almost double were deported compared to Obama

Didn’t  realize that. Whether Clinton or Obama, where was all the outrage and rioting then?

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So you guys are saying that Democrats are better at this than Republicans?

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a well thought out targeted approach.

Homey55 wrote:

Where was your outrage when the Democrats did it? Why did the Democrats deport so many illegal aliens? Why are deportations so low right now?

“Our nation was built by immigrants,” Clinton said in his weekly radio address to the nation. “But we won’t tolerate immigration by people whose first act is to break the law as they enter our country.”

Clinton said he has ordered the Justice Department to move immediately to eliminate the backlog of deportation cases, even if it means asking Congress for more money to do the job.

He particularly focused on illegal immigrants who are caught up in the criminal justice system. “Every day, illegal aliens show up in court who are charged. Some are guilty and surely some are innocent. Some go to jail and some don’t. But they’re all illegal aliens. And whether they’re innocent or guilty of the crimes they were charged with in court, they’re still here illegally, and they should be sent out of the country.”

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Homey55 wrote:

That's lovely, now do "AI in Hollywood".

Ai isn't just fucking over Hollywood, homie, it's coming for pretty much everyone who doesn't own an Ai company and it's happening at a much faster rate than I think anyone is aware of. We're just seeing it hit the arts first because a majority of that work is done exclusively on computers. I hope it doesn't get as dark as the direction it's heading (it's getting pretty dark in my industry) but I have little faith in anyone at the top to do much to protect the people further down the ladder because they've shown us time and time again, profits over people.

EDIT: We should take this to the Ai thread if you wanna go back and forth. It's a super interesting subject but I don't want to derail the thread with Ai shit.

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So you guys are saying that Democrats are better at this than Republicans?

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a well thought out targeted approach.

Homey55 wrote:

Where was your outrage when the Democrats did it? Why did the Democrats deport so many illegal aliens? Why are deportations so low right now?

Homey55 wrote:
“Our nation was built by immigrants,” Clinton said in his weekly radio address to the nation. “But we won’t tolerate immigration by people whose first act...

“Our nation was built by immigrants,” Clinton said in his weekly radio address to the nation. “But we won’t tolerate immigration by people whose first act is to break the law as they enter our country.”

Clinton said he has ordered the Justice Department to move immediately to eliminate the backlog of deportation cases, even if it means asking Congress for more money to do the job.

He particularly focused on illegal immigrants who are caught up in the criminal justice system. “Every day, illegal aliens show up in court who are charged. Some are guilty and surely some are innocent. Some go to jail and some don’t. But they’re all illegal aliens. And whether they’re innocent or guilty of the crimes they were charged with in court, they’re still here illegally, and they should be sent out of the country.”

Wow, akw was right!

That DOES sound well thought out and targeted!

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EVH4Ever wrote:

On a related note, didn’t Obama deport more illegals than any other president?

According to the chart posted right above you, under Clinton almost double were deported compared to Obama

So you guys are saying that Democrats are better at this than Republicans?

It's amazing what can be accomplished with a well thought out targeted approach.

We’re saying ding-a-lings like you only get upset because it’s Trump who’s doing it. If this was Biden, Obama, Clinton, or any other democratic president, your panties wouldn’t be all bunched up. 
 

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This ridiculous “organic” bullshit will end when the  money that is funding this is confiscated or cut off and the crisis actors stop getting paid.

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"We have to kick out the immigrants so we can give the jobs to good, hard working, red blooded Ameri... I mean, machinery, yeah we lied...

"We have to kick out the immigrants so we can give the jobs to good, hard working, red blooded Ameri... I mean, machinery, yeah we lied, we're going to give it to machinery."

Don't forgot how we're going to fill the stop gap, Joey! With big scary criminals! Not only can we pay them less than immigrants we found out – thanks to these beautiful ice raids – how few fucks people give about their fellow man if you convince them they're bad people so we can shift the goal post a teenie tiny bit and round up even more people, legal or not!!! GOOOOooooooo TEAM! Capitalism! WOOHOO! Get rid of the immigrants so the billionaire robot builders can make more money!!! XOXO

On the flip side, that machinery required would open more job positions as it requires, computer programmers, machinists, painters, assemblers, drivers, maintenance workers and, more. 

Isn’t that a good thing?

 Edit: Since I left it out, FUCK YOU FRUITBAT!! 😂

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Jeffro802 wrote:
You are exactly right. Unfortunately the price of your roof, fence, driveway, etc just went up. That dinner is gonna cost a little more too since...

You are exactly right. Unfortunately the price of your roof, fence, driveway, etc just went up. That dinner is gonna cost a little more too since the dish washer in the back is getting paid more. 

Yep, slave labor is all they are good for, huh?

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On the flip side, that machinery required would open more job positions as it requires, computer programmers, machinists, painters, assemblers, drivers, maintenance workers and, more. Isn’t that...

On the flip side, that machinery required would open more job positions as it requires, computer programmers, machinists, painters, assemblers, drivers, maintenance workers and, more. 

Isn’t that a good thing?

 Edit: Since I left it out, FUCK YOU FRUITBAT!! 😂

It would be an AMAZING thing... if those jobs were going to be done by people. But by the time we develop a proper pipeline and elevate the level of technology to straighten this stuff out (while aiming to be competitive price wise) all of that shit is going to be done via Ai and automation, which yes will have to have a handful of people around to maintain it, but it'll will reduce the work force from 100 to 1 which is going to cause 1000x more problems in this country than what we're being told we're experiencing with illegal immigration.

Don't get me wrong, as a business owner myself, I am always exploring more ways to be efficient but at a certain point we have to ask ourselves, "What's better for the health of America, more people with jobs or more money in the pockets of a few?".

EDIT: Fuck you, fruit bat.

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It would be an AMAZING thing... if those jobs were going to be done by people. But by the time we develop a proper pipeline and...

It would be an AMAZING thing... if those jobs were going to be done by people. But by the time we develop a proper pipeline and elevate the level of technology to straighten this stuff out (while aiming to be competitive price wise) all of that shit is going to be done via Ai and automation, which yes will have to have a handful of people around to maintain it, but it'll will reduce the work force from 100 to 1 which is going to cause 1000x more problems in this country than what we're being told we're experiencing with illegal immigration.

Don't get me wrong, as a business owner myself, I am always exploring more ways to be efficient but at a certain point we have to ask ourselves, "What's better for the health of America, more people with jobs or more money in the pockets of a few?".

EDIT: Fuck you, fruit bat.

You came from wealth, fucking liar. You have no idea how the real world works nor do your ridiculous opinions mean anything to anyone other than yourself.

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6/12/2025 7:58am Edited Date/Time 6/12/2025 7:59am
Chance1216 wrote:
On the flip side, that machinery required would open more job positions as it requires, computer programmers, machinists, painters, assemblers, drivers, maintenance workers and, more. Isn’t that...

On the flip side, that machinery required would open more job positions as it requires, computer programmers, machinists, painters, assemblers, drivers, maintenance workers and, more. 

Isn’t that a good thing?

 Edit: Since I left it out, FUCK YOU FRUITBAT!! 😂

It would be an AMAZING thing... if those jobs were going to be done by people. But by the time we develop a proper pipeline and...

It would be an AMAZING thing... if those jobs were going to be done by people. But by the time we develop a proper pipeline and elevate the level of technology to straighten this stuff out (while aiming to be competitive price wise) all of that shit is going to be done via Ai and automation, which yes will have to have a handful of people around to maintain it, but it'll will reduce the work force from 100 to 1 which is going to cause 1000x more problems in this country than what we're being told we're experiencing with illegal immigration.

Don't get me wrong, as a business owner myself, I am always exploring more ways to be efficient but at a certain point we have to ask ourselves, "What's better for the health of America, more people with jobs or more money in the pockets of a few?".

EDIT: Fuck you, fruit bat.

Edited my original post for ya. 

Seems regardless of what is done, there’s always going to be some type of impact. Whether it’s, negative or, positive, I guess time will tell. 

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Face shield boy, right where he belongs...GtP3lNqXwAAPTqn

Read yesterday where this idiot is a long time activist.

He'll be processed out soon enough. 

I'm sure there's an entire squad of bail bondsmen who have soros on speed dial. 

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