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Until a judge determines they are "facts", they are allegations.
But I'm sure will be OK with, it when they come after you.
Do all of you who are defending all of the current immigration mess by constantly bringing up January 6 feel as though nobody should have been prosecuted or that those who were should be pardoned? Just curious.... because you keep bringing it up and implying that what's legally happening with the rioters or illegal immigrants is somehow similar to January 6th which resulted in a ton of prosecutions and lives destroyed?
Not sure you're making the argument you think you are by constantly bringing up this entirely unrelated thing that happened........
I'm not watering down anything and you liking truck's post says it all. Just say what you mean like he did bro, why do you have reservations?
"yes we are OK with people who are here illegally being deported" You co-signed that.
I don't see it as such a black-and-white issue and it seems you know saying it flat out like that isn't something you aren't exactly comfortable doing. You guys going "these guys are great members of our community but unfortunately they gotta go" because the difference of being legal and illegal is fucking paperwork (often times which is in the process of being filed) is odd to me. And that doesn't even begin to step into the fact that US citizens or legal immigrants are being caught up in this mass deportation mess because it's being handled so poorly.
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Bringing up Jan 6 is not a defense to the LA ICE riots. I’m pointing out that if you are upset by the crime and destruction from the ICE riots, remember that president Trump pardoned the people from Jan 6 who did the same type of crime and destruction. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy in our current president and the people who back him.
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Oh brother, you are like a broken record, no real IDs can be had by people who are not US citizens.
Again, you are dodging the question: Are people with "real IDs" being deported? You already know the answer to that, Captain.
You seem to be very invested in US/California politics for someone in Kangaroo Country? Though, for sure, your cursory knowledge of California in general is sorely lacking, and it shows in your posts.
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We already saw how that movie ended back with Regan. Keep up with history my friend maybe then we can get on the same page.
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The point I was unsuccessfully ? trying to make was there's good immigrants here as well bad immigrants here. That's all. Just like there's good cops and bad cops. Ideally the ones with criminal backgrounds get deported. And the ones here working with no criminal records or arrests are given the chance to stay by going through the proper channels. Like it's supposed to work . I know "Just being here is a crime so therefore they are criminals" mindset is popular. But I'm having a hard time calling the hard working ones who came her for a better life criminals. Hell we opened up the door and made it easy for them, how can you blame them for coming here, why wouldn't they ? Anyway, those guys are ok in my book, they're not out stirring up shit, they're just laying low and trying to work hard for better life. The Mexican flag waving rioters aren't doing them any favors.
Maybe trump should have called in the marines to deal with the Jan 6th rioters..
Starting here in Vegas now. Was going decent until they started taking over the roadways near Fremont. Of course agitators ruined it all and started throwing frozen water bottles at officers and a couple of fireworks. Not nearly as bad as LA though.
I watched some of the shit-show last night on Youtube. It seems the Mexican flag waving, is the Mexicans saying that the land was stolen from them, and they want it back. Sounds like the same rhetoric we experience here in South Africa.
Once all those illegal aliens are deported, whom of you will take over all the jobs they worked?
You ever think that maybe it's not that Americans (or legal immigrants) won't do the jobs, but rather they won't do the jobs for the low wage that illegals are willing to do them for?
You are exactly right. Unfortunately the price of your roof, fence, driveway, etc just went up. That dinner is gonna cost a little more too since the dish washer in the back is getting paid more.
Even if you increase wages, there are simply not enough americans to do the jobs.
Its not like this "all illegals need to go" show wasn't tried before. Alabama did the same exact thing years ago and it was an economic desaster.
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“Keep ‘em around so we can treat them like slave labor so prices don't go up” is a pretty bold take. Probably not the one I would have gone with, but hey, you do you.
You sound like a broken record, I'll type this slowly so you can understand...
"Real IDs" are not recognized by the federal government as proof of citizenship, if they were, they could be used to obtain a US passport.
Two homebuilds ago, a new bricklaying crew was being used on a house our regular crew didn't have time for.
Crew consisted entirely of non english speakers.
I went to take field measurements for my work, their food garbage, and construction trash were everywhere.
And saw boxes of wall ties lying in the dirt unopened.
Looked closely and saw an entire wall 3/4 up, with no wall ties installed.
Informed our homebuilder.
He made them tear down the entire wall, and the wall on the front of the garages.
None had ties.
Next day, neither hide nor hair of that crew showed.
Sub bailed out when they were going to be held responsible for their mess.
Trust me, no home is being built "cheaper" because a subcontractor uses criminal illegal immigrants as their labor.
The cost/scale for sq footage of any particular portion of a homebuild is what it is.
The subcontractors bid the job based on the that, then cuts corners by using cheap criminal illegal immigrant labor.
He's profiteering, and none of the cost cutting is ultimately passed on to the cost of the build.
Now I know that flies in the face of the narrative that is being fed to some of you, but that's the reality out in the real world.
And as for the photo posted above, a frame inspection would bust that bullshit right away.
And at that point, every other sub would be stopped dead in the water from doing their job, until the framing passed inspection.
Not so efficient in the long run.
And Clinton signed a bill speeding up the deportation process. Without the due process bullshit.
And he and obama deported shit tons of criminal illegal immigrants.
Without the professional rioters getting their soiled panties in a knot.
Kennedy also deployed the nation guard.
Another peaceful demonstration !!
If slavery is outlawed, who will pick the cotton?
You know they’re in the construction industry and, in a recent development , in political positions as well? Right?
I’m guessing, “AMERICAN CITIZENS”..,,,
Machinery.
Just like much of every other aspect of farming.
"We have to kick out the immigrants so we can give the jobs to good, hard working, red blooded Ameri... I mean, machinery, yeah we lied, we're going to give it to machinery."
Don't forgot how we're going to fill the stop gap, Joey! With big scary criminals! Not only can we pay them less than immigrants we found out – thanks to these beautiful ice raids – how few fucks people give about their fellow man if you convince them they're bad people so we can shift the goal post a teenie tiny bit and round up even more people, legal or not!!! GOOOOooooooo TEAM! Capitalism! WOOHOO! Get rid of the immigrants so the billionaire robot builders can make more money!!! XOXO
Exactly.
Legal skilled labor being infused back into our trades would be the best thing to happen to our nation.
Leading to a shift back in our education system, towards those skills being introduced to young people.
Just like it was when I was growing up.
Getting away from this white collar degree based system we have now.
A system that's left a gaping hole in our trades, that being filled with criminal illegal immigrants.
It's making college's rich, and doing nothing to make our nation's manufacturing capabilities better.
Not to mention creating a generation that doesn't hate the country they're a part of.
It won't happen overnight.
But it has to start somewhere.
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