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Alex814 wrote:

All we need to know about Japan's social programs is that they have the world's oldest population. Ain't nothing good going to come of that.

An old, lean and fit population who has spent their entire life eating quality foods and no junk whatsoever.

Its no secret why they live longer.

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LA for sure has it's problems (every big city does) but as someone who lived in LA for 15 years (20 years in...

LA for sure has it's problems (every big city does) but as someone who lived in LA for 15 years (20 years in LA county), it's an amazing place. The beaches are great, the food is insane, tons of things to do, and if I wanted to (and did in high school) you can surf in the morning, drive out to the desert to ride by the afternoon, and hit up the slopes for some nighttime snowboarding all in a day.

I hear ya in terms of not being close to these things to experience them first hand but if you do ever get the chance, I recommend it. I've seen a lot of things I certainly don't agree with at them (committed by both sides of the protests) but that is greatly outweighed by the good I have experienced while attending them.

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HAR 3

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So... racism is what's preventing us from experiencing the success Japan is seeing in their social programs?

sumdood wrote:

Apples and oranges unless 2 million Mexicans swim across the Pacific, "Hola" !!  

sorry... lol. it's late. good night. I know, I'm going to hell... 

Is it though?White folks ran this place pretty much exclusively until 60-70 years ago and now the argument is, "We can't achieve all those things that...

Is it though?

White folks ran this place pretty much exclusively until 60-70 years ago and now the argument is, "We can't achieve all those things that Japan is crushing us on because they are more racially homogenous than us"?

That's silly.

Yep. Not your opinion, just questions. 

Grow a spine.

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6/11/2025 11:37am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2025 11:39am

While President Trump is trying to save lives, the left probably wants someone to be killed at one of these riots so they’ll have a new “george floyd” to rally around. 

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6/11/2025 11:40am Edited Date/Time 6/11/2025 11:42am
sumdood wrote:

Apples and oranges unless 2 million Mexicans swim across the Pacific, "Hola" !!  

sorry... lol. it's late. good night. I know, I'm going to hell... 

Is it though?White folks ran this place pretty much exclusively until 60-70 years ago and now the argument is, "We can't achieve all those things that...

Is it though?

White folks ran this place pretty much exclusively until 60-70 years ago and now the argument is, "We can't achieve all those things that Japan is crushing us on because they are more racially homogenous than us"?

That's silly.

vet323 wrote:

Yep. Not your opinion, just questions. 

Grow a spine.

Actually, my response was...

A question: Is it though?
A fact: White folks ran this place pretty much exclusively until 60-70 years ago
Another question: and now the argument is, "We can't achieve all those things that Japan is crushing us on because they are more racially homogenous than us"?
An opinion (my response to the fact-less response to my previous question): That's silly.

But there you go again with the classic, "grow a spin", calling me "smug", "you're so brave", silliness which I called out as a main staple of your technique as to why it's a waste of both of our times to attempt to converse. Good move on ditching the exchange where you mistook a question for an opinion though, very brave of you to avoid admitting you made a mistake.

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R66 wrote:

If the protests are peaceful, and everything is fine, why did mayor bass impose a curfew?

 

Good point…💯👍🏻

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Alex814 wrote:

All we need to know about Japan's social programs is that they have the world's oldest population. Ain't nothing good going to come of that.

JAFO92 wrote:

An old, lean and fit population who has spent their entire life eating quality foods and no junk whatsoever.

Its no secret why they live longer.

Great, their working-age population is also vanishing with the 1.15 replacement rate. 

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so if I walk onto the track at a MX race with no credentials, they'll let me hang around, right? When someone comes to me and...

so if I walk onto the track at a MX race with no credentials, they'll let me hang around, right? When someone comes to me and says "Show me your ID" and I say "Oh, I don't have that" do you think they'll let me hang around? Will they buy me free lunch? A phone? How about free education?

No?

Wow, that's really mean of them.

How many US citizens carry their birth certificate, passport, or citizenship certificate on their person?You are stopped by ICE, they ask to see your documents, you...

How many US citizens carry their birth certificate, passport, or citizenship certificate on their person?

You are stopped by ICE, they ask to see your documents, you show them your driver's license, they say that is not proof of citizenship, you are detained and put on a plane to El Salvador, enjoy your flight!

When in a foreign country, I carry my passport with me always. About your only form of ID. How many illegals even have a passport ? In California, they will give anyone a drivers license legal or not. It's definitely not any proof of citizenship.

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Immigration is so deeply intertwined with every other issue we face. Welfare, education, criminal/prison industrial complex, stagnant wages, inflation, healthcare, social security, politics/voting, every single domestic issue we have. Immigration both legal and non legal play a huge part. 

The system is broken and we can not adequately address any single issue in any meaningful way without addressing all of them because they all lean on eachother. 

 

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TG130 wrote:
When in a foreign country, I carry my passport with me always. About your only form of ID. How many illegals even have a passport...

When in a foreign country, I carry my passport with me always. About your only form of ID. How many illegals even have a passport ? In California, they will give anyone a drivers license legal or not. It's definitely not any proof of citizenship.

But not a Real ID.  Those aren't as simple to get.  Are we sure that a Real ID validated Drivers License isn't a proof of citizenship?

6/11/2025 4:13pm
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When in a foreign country, I carry my passport with me always. About your only form of ID. How many illegals even have a passport...

When in a foreign country, I carry my passport with me always. About your only form of ID. How many illegals even have a passport ? In California, they will give anyone a drivers license legal or not. It's definitely not any proof of citizenship.

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But not a Real ID.  Those aren't as simple to get.  Are we sure that a Real ID validated Drivers License isn't a proof of citizenship?

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Don't know why you got a downvote for that, it is factually correct. A Real ID would be more valuable in terms of citizenship as long as every option you're allowed to use for documents were also valid for citizenship, but the last item is "document reflecting TPS benefit eligibility", which is why is falls back to a secondary evidence. Sounds like even a printed letter would qualify, not actually having temporary protected status, but just a letter saying "yeah you're probably eligible". 

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6/11/2025 5:05pm
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Don't know why you got a downvote for that, it is factually correct. A Real ID would be more valuable in terms of citizenship as long...

Don't know why you got a downvote for that, it is factually correct. A Real ID would be more valuable in terms of citizenship as long as every option you're allowed to use for documents were also valid for citizenship, but the last item is "document reflecting TPS benefit eligibility", which is why is falls back to a secondary evidence. Sounds like even a printed letter would qualify, not actually having temporary protected status, but just a letter saying "yeah you're probably eligible". 

If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present your proof of citizenship if it is not on your person or for legal representation or a day in court, even if you are a natural born citizen.

This is open to abuse, if the government or an ICE officer doesn't like you, they just deport you.

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So after a nice long day at work, I came home to turn on the TV and see that Gavin Newsom and the state of California are going to sue Donald Trump ? and the United States too I guess ? Or just Donald Trump ? For bringing in the national guard and causing it to escalate, even though they were throwing bricks and setting cars on fire for 2 (3?) days before they got there? I guess they can cause riots retroactively through some kind of wormhole or space vortex continuum time folding machine or something ?  He’s lost it man. I don’t think this guy is competent  enough to walk a dog. He says bringing in the National Guard is what caused it to escalate, but meanwhile shits on fire for days yo and no ones doing shit about it.  Gavin Newsom is the worst fucking employee ever, he’s not there for us by any means, but yet we have to pay him millions and can’t fire him… 
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sumdood wrote:
So after a nice long day at work, I came home to turn on the TV and see that Gavin Newsom and the state of California...

So after a nice long day at work, I came home to turn on the TV and see that Gavin Newsom and the state of California are going to sue Donald Trump ? and the United States too I guess ? Or just Donald Trump ? For bringing in the national guard and causing it to escalate, even though they were throwing bricks and setting cars on fire for 2 (3?) days before they got there? I guess they can cause riots retroactively through some kind of wormhole or space vortex continuum time folding machine or something ?  He’s lost it man. I don’t think this guy is competent  enough to walk a dog. He says bringing in the National Guard is what caused it to escalate, but meanwhile shits on fire for days yo and no ones doing shit about it.  Gavin Newsom is the worst fucking employee ever, he’s not there for us by any means, but yet we have to pay him millions and can’t fire him… 
Beer:30


 
 

You can fire him next election.

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6/11/2025 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 6/11/2025 5:39pm

So they have ICE in Australia? Given that it’s a nation of criminals I would imagine they would be severely overworked.

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EVH4Ever wrote:

So they have ICE in Australia? Given that it’s a nation of criminals I would imagine they would be severely overworked.

I'm assuming you're an older guy, you grew up without ICE in America. Somehow you're still here...

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I'm assuming you're an older guy, you grew up without ICE in America. Somehow you're still here...

I’m assuming you’re a clueless woke punk? Surprising that you’d want to be here, Alex Fartz.

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If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present...

If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present your proof of citizenship if it is not on your person or for legal representation or a day in court, even if you are a natural born citizen.

This is open to abuse, if the government or an ICE officer doesn't like you, they just deport you.

You mean like carry a wallet with your ID ?   Doesn't everyone do that ?  I do, my wife does, my kids do.  So they have to carry their papers on their person, big deal, welcome to America. If anyone has a good reason to carry their "Papers" on them it's those guys. The cops can ask you who you are here. It's not like some new rule just for them. They want to see my ID too, I don't want to hear anyone crying about having to carry ID. It's common sense especially now brainiacs.   

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sumdood wrote:
So after a nice long day at work, I came home to turn on the TV and see that Gavin Newsom and the state of California...

So after a nice long day at work, I came home to turn on the TV and see that Gavin Newsom and the state of California are going to sue Donald Trump ? and the United States too I guess ? Or just Donald Trump ? For bringing in the national guard and causing it to escalate, even though they were throwing bricks and setting cars on fire for 2 (3?) days before they got there? I guess they can cause riots retroactively through some kind of wormhole or space vortex continuum time folding machine or something ?  He’s lost it man. I don’t think this guy is competent  enough to walk a dog. He says bringing in the National Guard is what caused it to escalate, but meanwhile shits on fire for days yo and no ones doing shit about it.  Gavin Newsom is the worst fucking employee ever, he’s not there for us by any means, but yet we have to pay him millions and can’t fire him… 
Beer:30


 
 

You can fire him next election.

We've tried believe me. Fucker has lots of low friends in high places

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EVH4Ever wrote:

So they have ICE in Australia? Given that it’s a nation of criminals I would imagine they would be severely overworked.

aeffertz wrote:

I'm assuming you're an older guy, you grew up without ICE in America. Somehow you're still here...

INS had been around since 1933. ICE was basically name change and restructuring, not some new concept. 

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6/11/2025 6:00pm
If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present...

If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present your proof of citizenship if it is not on your person or for legal representation or a day in court, even if you are a natural born citizen.

This is open to abuse, if the government or an ICE officer doesn't like you, they just deport you.

sumdood wrote:
You mean like carry a wallet with your ID ?   Doesn't everyone do that ?  I do, my wife does, my kids do.  So they...

You mean like carry a wallet with your ID ?   Doesn't everyone do that ?  I do, my wife does, my kids do.  So they have to carry their papers on their person, big deal, welcome to America. If anyone has a good reason to carry their "Papers" on them it's those guys. The cops can ask you who you are here. It's not like some new rule just for them. They want to see my ID too, I don't want to hear anyone crying about having to carry ID. It's common sense especially now brainiacs.   

Is the ID you carry your birth certificate, or passport or certificate of citizenship?

If it's not, your ID is not proof of citizenship.

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If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present...

If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present your proof of citizenship if it is not on your person or for legal representation or a day in court, even if you are a natural born citizen.

This is open to abuse, if the government or an ICE officer doesn't like you, they just deport you.

sumdood wrote:
You mean like carry a wallet with your ID ?   Doesn't everyone do that ?  I do, my wife does, my kids do.  So they...

You mean like carry a wallet with your ID ?   Doesn't everyone do that ?  I do, my wife does, my kids do.  So they have to carry their papers on their person, big deal, welcome to America. If anyone has a good reason to carry their "Papers" on them it's those guys. The cops can ask you who you are here. It's not like some new rule just for them. They want to see my ID too, I don't want to hear anyone crying about having to carry ID. It's common sense especially now brainiacs.   

Not only that, if you don't have your ID but can provide a name, birthdate, social security number, etc they can easily verify your identity. This notion that people who are citizens that just forgot their ID at home and are being deported is total fantasy. 

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Why does LastButtSmoke care so much about US policies? Jealousy, like all the others?

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EVH4Ever wrote:

Why does LastButtSmoke care so much about US policies? Jealousy, like all the others?

His lovely country is run so poorly he has to focus on ours.

 

And has a severe case of TDS obviously 

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6/11/2025 6:22pm
BH_84 wrote:
The entire protest is about abuse of power. By sending in the national guard(illegally without the governor’s permission) and the marines (illegal without invoking the insurrection act)...

The entire protest is about abuse of power. 

By sending in the national guard(illegally without the governor’s permission) and the marines (illegal without invoking the insurrection act) they’re abusing power even more. 

Your “law and order” requires the government to follow the law. It is not doing so. Hence the protests.

Constitutional scholar there, eh? The president of the US has the legal authority to federalize National Guard troops as needed. This does not require permission from the governor of that state. This is in part, due to the fact that National Guard members are paid out of the US treasury through DFAS, not state funds. 

As for the Marines, the Posse Comitatus ACT prohibits US military forces from being used as law enforcement. There is no prohibition against using the military to secure federal property. 

Please educate yourself before spouting misinformation....

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6/11/2025 6:24pm
If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present...

If you are stopped by ICE and don't have proof of citizenship on your person, you may be detained and deported, without the opportunity to present your proof of citizenship if it is not on your person or for legal representation or a day in court, even if you are a natural born citizen.

This is open to abuse, if the government or an ICE officer doesn't like you, they just deport you.

sumdood wrote:
You mean like carry a wallet with your ID ?   Doesn't everyone do that ?  I do, my wife does, my kids do.  So they...

You mean like carry a wallet with your ID ?   Doesn't everyone do that ?  I do, my wife does, my kids do.  So they have to carry their papers on their person, big deal, welcome to America. If anyone has a good reason to carry their "Papers" on them it's those guys. The cops can ask you who you are here. It's not like some new rule just for them. They want to see my ID too, I don't want to hear anyone crying about having to carry ID. It's common sense especially now brainiacs.   

truck wrote:
Not only that, if you don't have your ID but can provide a name, birthdate, social security number, etc they can easily verify your identity. This...

Not only that, if you don't have your ID but can provide a name, birthdate, social security number, etc they can easily verify your identity. This notion that people who are citizens that just forgot their ID at home and are being deported is total fantasy. 

I never said they were, I said they may.

People are being detained by ICE, then deported without access to lawyers, and without a day in court. This is open to abuse.

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6/11/2025 6:25pm
EVH4Ever wrote:

Why does LastButtSmoke care so much about US policies? Jealousy, like all the others?

Why don't you care about your rights being eroded?

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EVH4Ever wrote:

Why does LastButtSmoke care so much about US policies? Jealousy, like all the others?

LOOnatic wrote:

His lovely country is run so poorly he has to focus on ours.

 

And has a severe case of TDS obviously 

Have you been to Australia? 

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