Mugen Honda E-REX

I love it and it's exciting to me. I wonder how far out we are from electric bikes in the showrooms? Two years, five years, ten years?

Better than any of the other videos about that bike, but they still aren't wowing anyone in the way the Stark videos have. At least the riders are actually clearing some jumps now and the suspension looks much better setup for the platform.

They're definitely sticking with liquid-cooling of some sort (not sure if that's for the battery, controller, motor or all three) so that looks promising.

Cool video but I couldn’t get the sound to work.

wisey wrote:

Cool video but I couldn’t get the sound to work.

wisey wrote:

Cool video but I couldn’t get the sound to work.

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Cool! That way you don't have to endure that ridiculous slot car sound.

Downvote all you want, that silly f***ing sound is soooooooo damn irritating.

Won't be long now. Like it or not, they are coming and fast. Personally, I would hold off on jumping on the Stark when all the major manufacturers that already have the chassis, R&D capability, and cash are coming in hot. Just like power tools, cars, vacuums etc are going this direction, moto will as well. 100% instant torque, noise issues gone, much less maintenance, infinite levels of programming from beginner level to 450 power++, similar pricing, and able to ride basically anywhere......not sure how that's a bad thing. They may not replace enduro bikes for 4 hour+ rides immediately, but everything else will no doubt have a major impact.

Sounds like they are racing RC cars.

one upside for the oem's will be parts... they can manufacture one big bike instead of parts for each 250, 450, etc.
hopefully it should make things easier for public to source used or new parts as well

wisey wrote:

Cool video but I couldn’t get the sound to work.

wisey wrote:

Cool video but I couldn’t get the sound to work.

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I figure they'll have integrated speakers, and downloadable exhaust sounds, probably for sale like ringtones used to be.

The one ringtone I ever paid for was 'two stroke motorcycle ringtone'.

If they can figure out a way to make it sound like a tie fighter, I’m in.

You know Honda will kill it with electric , the sound is the deal breaker within racing

Cool, but honestly those just do nothing for me. I hear a 2 stroke or 4 stroke, it gets me excited and makes me want to ride. E-Bikes? Not at all

As I wrote in the Stark Varg thread, as much as I'm interested in the Strong Wolf, I'm even more interested in the major manufacturers response to it.

They won't be given any free passes, if the SV is as good as it is being touted to be.

And, with what looks to me to be quite a fair price, it might just stop major manufacturers going for the gouge / "charging what (they determine) the market will bear" . That's a great way to destroy uptake of something different.

I wonder if Honda and the other manufacturers in the 'consortium' will make use of a standard, for Performance / Race E Dirt Bikes, along the lines of this battery unit that has been shown as the 'consortium project', that several manufacturers have signed up to :





Now, these may be unsuitable for a performance application - buggered if I know what those specs shown are all about - they may just be a 'Commuter / Road use' power source. But I really, Really hope / want that a standard can be reached for quick change, mass production of High Performance Batteries. As, really, for E bikes to be practical / affordable and thus have a Real / Viable market, batteries that are quick change, and Don't cost a bloody motza, is what is needed.

As it is, I known that scurrilous bounder, PJRAUS has a deposit on a Stark Varg, and a local mate has put his deposit on one, and last night, I showed another mate the SV, who had somehow missed the whole Stark Varg juggernaut of PR, ( he was beside himself at missing it) , and is now having to wait for a 2023 arrival - yah snooze, yah looze, CJ!

I couldn't care less what it sounds like if it turns out to be a great bike.

KONG wrote:

Downvote all you want, that silly f***ing sound is soooooooo damn irritating.

KONG wrote:

Downvote all you want, that silly f***ing sound is soooooooo damn irritating.

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Unfortunately the new braap

The guy cased most of those table tops. Is it under powered?

People who don’t ride dirt bikes find the sound of them quite annoying, it’s only until they’ve ridden them and understand the thrill of them that they fall in love with the sound.
I think the issue of sound with electric bikes will be much the same, those who have ridden them fall in love with them. Those who dislike the sound, haven’t really ridden them much.

Honestly, this bike looks underpowered and nowhere close to an Alta MXR.

theycallmeebryan wrote:

Honestly, this bike looks underpowered and nowhere close to an Alta MXR.

theycallmeebryan wrote:

Honestly, this bike looks underpowered and nowhere close to an Alta MXR.

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Stamp it: ESR's YZ325 is the best bike ever in da world!!!

All these guys who got used to the sound of well-executed farts are complaining about the sound of an electric bike... 😆🤦‍♂️

New video surfaced on YouTube. It gives a really nice look what is hidden under the plastics of the ike

8tensolutions wrote:

Won't be long now. Like it or not, they are coming and fast. Personally, I would hold off on jumping on the Stark when all the ...more

8tensolutions wrote:

Won't be long now. Like it or not, they are coming and fast. Personally, I would hold off on jumping on the Stark when all the major manufacturers that already have the chassis, R&D capability, and cash are coming in hot. Just like power tools, cars, vacuums etc are going this direction, moto will as well. 100% instant torque, noise issues gone, much less maintenance, infinite levels of programming from beginner level to 450 power++, similar pricing, and able to ride basically anywhere......not sure how that's a bad thing. They may not replace enduro bikes for 4 hour+ rides immediately, but everything else will no doubt have a major impact.

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Ride anywhere…until the eco-freaks find a new reason to shut us down. Unfortunately, even if dirt bikes cured cancer and world hunger, those assholes would find a reason to ban us. Miserable pieces of shit, all of them.

bayodome wrote:

Better than any of the other videos about that bike, but they still aren't wowing anyone in the way the Stark videos have. At ...more

bayodome wrote:

Better than any of the other videos about that bike, but they still aren't wowing anyone in the way the Stark videos have. At least the riders are actually clearing some jumps now and the suspension looks much better setup for the platform.

They're definitely sticking with liquid-cooling of some sort (not sure if that's for the battery, controller, motor or all three) so that looks promising.

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Stark will be gone as fast as Alta and that's IF they actually manufacture motorcycles. I would be Honda can pull off what Alta couldn't.

Lots of EV fanboys in this thread. Electrek must have dismissed the kindergarten class.

8tensolutions wrote:

Won't be long now. Like it or not, they are coming and fast. Personally, I would hold off on jumping on the Stark when all the ...more

8tensolutions wrote:

Won't be long now. Like it or not, they are coming and fast. Personally, I would hold off on jumping on the Stark when all the major manufacturers that already have the chassis, R&D capability, and cash are coming in hot. Just like power tools, cars, vacuums etc are going this direction, moto will as well. 100% instant torque, noise issues gone, much less maintenance, infinite levels of programming from beginner level to 450 power++, similar pricing, and able to ride basically anywhere......not sure how that's a bad thing. They may not replace enduro bikes for 4 hour+ rides immediately, but everything else will no doubt have a major impact.

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You'd have to be stupid to buy a Stark. Startup vehicle companies rarely survive. On top of that you have the major manufacturers marching towards the electric market. They will collectively stomp Stark into oblivion. Tesla is a one in a billion success story.

100% torque is a nice marketing term, but it's not reality. Nobody could handle a dirt bike with 100% untamed torque off idle. The controller software will ensure you do not have 100% torque from 0 RPM.

No noise is also a farce. Electric vehicles do make noise and the faster they go the more obnoxious the sound becomes. It's an annoying whine that grumpy track neighbors aren't going to put up with. Not saying it's louder than a 450, but noise will still be an issue.

How soon will we be seeing Chase Sexton riding one of these and finding new and exciting ways to crash himself silly, at a supercross near you?! Seriously tho, these guy's doing the demo are going faster than the "average" vital rider, and the 4-lap "moto" they rode (see second video) is as long as the moto's we get at a typical Vet race. I'm sure they were instructed to "keep it close and exciting" and above all don't crash!. They were just cruising and standing up thru the corners while trading the lead. Electric is coming and I'll be buying one as soon as they get the bugs worked out.

I’m actually bit excited about these. I’ll take a kx-e please. I have flat 2 acres attached to my house in town, tree lined and only one neighbour touching the corner. I can put a mild Sx track on it and plan too when these bikes drop.
Sound shit but I sure I’ll never hit a false neutral!

Guys, everyone saying that sound is a big deal. For example, in the Rally they are already testing the alternative sound for an electric car. In this case, they used the sound of a F1 monopost, which for me personally is not the most suitable sound for a rally car. But they are working on something like this. So I think that with development, it's just matter of time. As you set the engine power between 125 - 450 ccm on electric bike, you will probably set the sound of 2-Stroke, 4-Stroke. And maybe in a few years, sound will be way more improved.

Hi Side wrote:

I love it and it's exciting to me. I wonder how far out we are from electric bikes in the showrooms? Two years, five years, ...more

Hi Side wrote:

I love it and it's exciting to me. I wonder how far out we are from electric bikes in the showrooms? Two years, five years, ten years?

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hopefully in the near NEVER.