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a bunch pussy's saying its not fair on one side, and a bunch of meat heads on the other side mocking "participation ribbon"
is that about it? clearly both sides of the argument are missing the "spirit of competition"...
here's what I think. Until the AMA clearly defines the difference between Pro and AM, then this topic is null.
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Like I said, I don't have a dog in this race, but i do hear what's said in the pits and at riding spots.
Mike was just saying in April that he wanted to race Muddy Creek.
HAHAHA.......
Open to anyone who had a pro license before 2007 and is over 30. And like the 50cc classes- it's the only class you can race. Every year the pro card requirement jumps up one calendar year. It would give a lot more room for guys like myself who used to race professionally and still haul balls (honestly) a class to race without beating up on the plus 25 local guys who really should be making the class but can't because it's literally all A riders.
I think it is cool to see them out racing but it just screws the shit out of the guys that would give anything to get a bib from the ranch. Guys that maybe never had the equipment or funds to do this when they were younger but have worked hard in life and would like to chase a dream. I know a guy that qualified for 40+ 2 years ago, he is much faster than he was but he had ex pros at both regionals he qualified for and missed the cut... Remove the ex pros and he is back in the gate in 1 of them and 2 spots out in the other....
Loretta's is once a year and it's a big deal to the local guys who never made it big. It's the challenge of measuring themselves against the other 9-5 Joe's. I don't personally understand what someone like Mike Brown would get out of winning by a full minute. If he's looking for someone to race it looks like he looked in the wrong place. Maybe Pro Sport class would have been a better place.
I think the best way to handle the situation is for the past pro's to ride 25+. Guys like Grewe and Carsten have shown that they have the speed for that class at over 50 years old. If they can do it then surely guys who had real factory rides can too. That would leave the 30+ and up for the local hot shot vet guys and you don't have to add a class for the pro's.
People bitch about sandbagging in the C classes. Well, isn't this a form of that?
Ex-pro's racing in a class they're clearly too fast for?
They should at least run pro sport.
Again, the question nobody has answered. It's called the amateur nationals.
Please tell me how an ex-pro fits that definition?
Pit Row
1. J. Martin
2. J. Savatgy
3. M. Clarke
4. J. Summers
5. Z. Bell
6. E. Goodson
7. J. Mort
8. K. Bitterman
9. A. Snelling
10 C. Cherpak
11. R. Carmicheal
...
Pretty pack class.
They have already made rules to keep point earners out of the Vet 30 and 45 classes. So is all this fuss over
just the 40 class? The thing is....if you know the guys on the roster there are guys who were local A riders all
the way back to 30 something place.
It's a very rare instance that a former star takes a spot away from a guy serious about going. There are always alternates that go and especially out west the Vet classes are small and it's at times more of an...show up at your area and regional and if you've got the money and time off work you're qualified if you want to go.
Lorettas has always been for the top of the nation in each class.
Any of you guys here fans of sprint car racing? Here in this area of Missouri, a lot of top sprint car racers will come and race local 360 races in their full semis and top equipment. They usually win unless it's some local guy's track that he just owns. Some drivers hate that. Others love that they can race with top professionals without going to a major event. Shit, sometimes they even run a local series in the same race as the national series, giving points for each. I'm sure there's other sports like this too, but sprint car racing is the only one I personally know of where a top pro will, fairly often, just show up to a local track that happens to be on the way between two national races and race that night. Case in point was Tony Stewart's big debacle when that guy ran onto the track and Stewart hit him. Imagine showing up to your local track on a Sunday to race the A class and you see Eli Tomac pull up in his factory semi and factory bike, also signed up for your class. Direct equivalent.
The sport needs a Pro Senior class and series like golf. My luck at 54yo the cutoff would be 50.....probably where it should be.
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