Wondering how Deegan slices through the pack?

7/26/2026 3:01am
Motodude wrote:

2/3 of the field is more than 5-10sec a lap slower than the top 5! 

If there in bunches with his extra speed passing will be easy for him

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You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys...

You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys are impressive, even the ones getting gapped and lapped. 

I would have loved to have the speed to qualify and get lapped!

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lumpy790 wrote:

Deegan was in 100% Attack mode to charge through the pack like that. After he got to 4th he backed off into cruse mode

Radical wrote:

If he didn't back off, he most likely would've caught Prado.  It's easy for me to say, but he should've kept charging.

lumpy790 wrote:
Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the...

Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the race.

Because he would have gotten second overall. 
 
Deegan is a lot of things, not a lazy person. If he thought he could catch Prado I feel like he would have tried. 

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7/26/2026 6:04am
mb60 wrote:

Im wondering how 2nd moto he was on the fender of Jett twice and got gapped by 15  seconds. 

Probably because his mechanic in moto 2 had a pit board message that said to cruise it home, Jett's been penalized for his offtrack excursion and you already beat him??

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7/26/2026 6:07am
DonJulio wrote:
Jett falling and being right in front of you is the biggest motivator you can ask for and daddy Jett pulled another 12 seconds on him….rip...

Jett falling and being right in front of you is the biggest motivator you can ask for and daddy Jett pulled another 12 seconds on him….rip deegs 

Deegs pit board read, "relax" Jett's been penalized, you already beat Jett. Don't push it!

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CPR wrote:
Yes Deegan 37th to 4th is impressive, but hardly a mention of RJ 40th to 7th, or Prado also crashing on the first lap and back...

Yes Deegan 37th to 4th is impressive, but hardly a mention of RJ 40th to 7th, or Prado also crashing on the first lap and back to 4th in the second moto.

They did mention RJ's ride but it was overshadowed by Deegans ride and George's13th to 4th after his tip over isn't anywhere near what Deegan and RJ did

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You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys...

You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys are impressive, even the ones getting gapped and lapped. 

228YZ wrote:

I would have loved to have the speed to qualify and get lapped!

Same here, anyone who qualifies for a national is fast enough to dominate any local races.

I work some D37 races including NCGP. Our fastest guys, who absolutely haul ass, are top 20ish in a national motocross race. 

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7/26/2026 7:59am
You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys...

You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys are impressive, even the ones getting gapped and lapped. 

228YZ wrote:

I would have loved to have the speed to qualify and get lapped!

Gravel wrote:
Same here, anyone who qualifies for a national is fast enough to dominate any local races.I work some D37 races including NCGP. Our fastest guys, who...

Same here, anyone who qualifies for a national is fast enough to dominate any local races.

I work some D37 races including NCGP. Our fastest guys, who absolutely haul ass, are top 20ish in a national motocross race. 

Its is actual insane. I ride at his 956 alot and even the fast Lorreta kids are impressive then you see some old pro get on the track which is faster than those kids and then you have Ty come blowing by you and your just like "how"? 

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7/26/2026 8:06am
You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys...

You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys are impressive, even the ones getting gapped and lapped. 

It’s “too hot and expensive” for some of the warriors on here to step outside and go see a race live. 

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7/26/2026 8:29am
Radical wrote:

If he didn't back off, he most likely would've caught Prado.  It's easy for me to say, but he should've kept charging.

lumpy790 wrote:
Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the...

Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the race.

motojoel1 wrote:
Because he would have gotten second overall.  Deegan is a lot of things, not a lazy person. If he thought he could catch Prado I feel like...

Because he would have gotten second overall. 
 
Deegan is a lot of things, not a lazy person. If he thought he could catch Prado I feel like he would have tried. 

Had Deegan beat Prado in moto1 for third (20points) and got second(22points) in moto2 because of Jett's penalty he still wouldn't have gotten second overall.  Jett would have ended the day with a first (25points) in moto1 and third (20points) in moto2 due to the penalty, that was still enough to end up second overall.

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7/26/2026 8:34am
cappelmans wrote:
moto1 was hard to watch as a euro even to be honest. It was a complete beatdown. The field is really weak in the us at...

moto1 was hard to watch as a euro even to be honest. It was a complete beatdown. The field is really weak in the us at the moment. It’s depressing to see Prado settle for 3rd immediately and looking gassed. When the competition is stomped by a minute its not a good look in modern racing. I love us racing, good tracks, coverage but Malin is right unfortunately

I think most of the remaining field is mentally beat and their biggest motivation is just getting another ride. Sexton being out for a few reasons, Tomac being a mystery, JCoop being injured, Plessinger being out, and Roczen not doing outdoors doesn't leave many left that think they can even podium.

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7/26/2026 8:39am
kawasa84 wrote:

Deegs pit board read, "relax" Jett's been penalized, you already beat Jett. Don't push it!

Points don't matter? A chance to pass Jett doesn't matter?  Seems like surrender.

Maybe if you've got a title locked up you settle in that situation.  

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Kinda funny how when Coenen went from last to 4th in 10 minutes at Southwick it was the greatest ride ever and when Deegan does the exact same at both Millville and Washougal it's because of a weak field....They were all equally as impressive...

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7/26/2026 8:49am
DonM wrote:
Kinda funny how when Coenen went from last to 4th in 10 minutes at Southwick it was the greatest ride ever and when Deegan does the...

Kinda funny how when Coenen went from last to 4th in 10 minutes at Southwick it was the greatest ride ever and when Deegan does the exact same at both Millville and Washougal it's because of a weak field....They were all equally as impressive...

Deegan is part of the reason I think the rest are mentally beat. Between him and the brothers I don't think most of the field thinks they have a chance to even podium. He's undeniably exceptional, intentionally controversial, and yes, still a few steps off from the brothers pace in his rookie year.

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7/26/2026 9:02am
Radical wrote:

If he didn't back off, he most likely would've caught Prado.  It's easy for me to say, but he should've kept charging.

lumpy790 wrote:
Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the...

Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the race.

Radical wrote:
I figured that's what he did, but if you have it in the tank, it's worth it to keep charging.Prado dropped about 20 seconds between when...

I figured that's what he did, but if you have it in the tank, it's worth it to keep charging.

Prado dropped about 20 seconds between when Deegan started taking it easy, and the end of the race.

If Deegan had kept charging, that 20 second gap would've closed down to zero.

Also, when riders settle for a position, they're forgetting about the chance that a rider ahead of them can bobble.

If they stay as close as possible, they set themselves up to capitalize, otherwise, the rider ahead stays ahead.

My uncle used to say "The harder I work, the luckier I get".  That's true in Mx as well.

Not this late in the season a smart racer knows it’s a risk pushing it that hard and risking an injury. 

Big picture is being fresh into the outdoors 450 class He is still moving up the playoff list so after shuffle he will be a contender there and he will be pushing harder in rounds 2 and 3 

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my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of a deegs circlejerk by transplants. 

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7/26/2026 10:11am
Tyler D wrote:
my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of...

my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of a deegs circlejerk by transplants. 

Kitchen can't even match his own speed week to week. 

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7/26/2026 10:14am
kawasa84 wrote:
Probably because his mechanic in moto 2 had a pit board message that said to cruise it home, Jett's been penalized for his offtrack excursion and...

Probably because his mechanic in moto 2 had a pit board message that said to cruise it home, Jett's been penalized for his offtrack excursion and you already beat him??

Yea that was probably it. Lol 

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7/26/2026 10:37am
lumpy790 wrote:
Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the...

Prado was 20 seconds ahead of him so why risk throwing it all away and they stayed at 20 second gap for the rest of the race.

motojoel1 wrote:
Because he would have gotten second overall.  Deegan is a lot of things, not a lazy person. If he thought he could catch Prado I feel like...

Because he would have gotten second overall. 
 
Deegan is a lot of things, not a lazy person. If he thought he could catch Prado I feel like he would have tried. 

dkurtd wrote:
Had Deegan beat Prado in moto1 for third (20points) and got second(22points) in moto2 because of Jett's penalty he still wouldn't have gotten second overall.  Jett...

Had Deegan beat Prado in moto1 for third (20points) and got second(22points) in moto2 because of Jett's penalty he still wouldn't have gotten second overall.  Jett would have ended the day with a first (25points) in moto1 and third (20points) in moto2 due to the penalty, that was still enough to end up second overall.

You’re right. math is hard. 

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Tyler D wrote:
my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of...

my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of a deegs circlejerk by transplants. 

Who is this kitchens you speak of....

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7/26/2026 10:52am
mb60 wrote:

Im wondering how 2nd moto he was on the fender of Jett twice and got gapped by 15  seconds. 

He realistically had 3 shots at it.  The start, Jetts off track excursion,  and Jetts crash.  And jett pulled away every time.  Deegs has been force fed some humble pie a bunch this summer but yesterday was the worst yet.  

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7/26/2026 10:53am
Motodude wrote:
Have to shout out to RJ, he did just as good as Dongerboi cutting through the field. Even the second moto when he wadded up on...

Have to shout out to RJ, he did just as good as Dongerboi cutting through the field. Even the second moto when he wadded up on the fast downhill, got back on and climbed his way up. That was totally gnarly. 

Still, team Lawrence puts 2-5 secs a lap into everyone else, hey, at least we have 2 of them dueling it, we only had 1 RC, until Bubba arrived and I think that was too short lived.

Loved seeing RJ out there. No doubt about it, when it comes to getting up and going again after a crash, the dude is definitely the fastest out there.

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You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys...

You guys are sounding really jaded, almost like you need to stop watching moto on tv and go see it in person. ALL of those guys are impressive, even the ones getting gapped and lapped. 

228YZ wrote:

I would have loved to have the speed to qualify and get lapped!

Gravel wrote:
Same here, anyone who qualifies for a national is fast enough to dominate any local races.I work some D37 races including NCGP. Our fastest guys, who...

Same here, anyone who qualifies for a national is fast enough to dominate any local races.

I work some D37 races including NCGP. Our fastest guys, who absolutely haul ass, are top 20ish in a national motocross race. 

I remember when local pros would show up for practice. Everyone pulled off to watch how fast they were. They would also re-arrange the berms on the track lol. It was amazing. 

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Tyler D wrote:
my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of...

my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of a deegs circlejerk by transplants. 

Kitchen can't even match his own speed week to week. 

i know and it makes me sad. he needs to stop arching his back like a scared cat. no wonder he has back problems. 

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Tyler D wrote:
my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of...

my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of a deegs circlejerk by transplants. 

DonM wrote:

Who is this kitchens you speak of....

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lumpy790 wrote:

Deegan was in 100% Attack mode to charge through the pack like that. After he got to 4th he backed off into cruse mode

Radical wrote:

If he didn't back off, he most likely would've caught Prado.  It's easy for me to say, but he should've kept charging.

what race were you watching?.....Deegs even said Prado was gone

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Tyler D wrote:
my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of...

my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of a deegs circlejerk by transplants. 

DonM wrote:

Who is this kitchens you speak of....

The one with the spatula 

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Tyler D wrote:
my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of...

my dream is that somebody like kitchens moves up and matches his speed so we dont have to be worried about getting saved the pain of a deegs circlejerk by transplants. 

Kitchen can't even match his own speed week to week. 

Thanks for that one. Blew my drink right out my nose. 

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Let's say cringe lord never wins another race... the coonens come over, Davies moves up... and he's a 3-5th place guy till retirement... How much longer will the bed bugs keep saying "he's younger than the others" or "he keeps getting faster each week"... ??? Lmaoooo

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