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James had no chance to win outdoors in 2005. 250 vs 450.
Makes me laugh when people post threads like this and not give the real quotes or context, just to make the person look bad when in fact it's the opposite.
This thread should be in dumbgeon
How'd that work out for Eli last summer? Nobody is on Jett's level on a mx track
It’s such a bummer to see people dislike Jett so much. There’s really not a good reason. If you’re biased to your own rider that’s one thing, but you don’t have to drag everyone who isn’t “your guy”
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Just want to verify if it's cool before I roll up to the track like that.
Maybe Ill screenshot it and show the kids if they try to make fun of me again
Only when Jett stays off the ground, which is nearly 50% of the time in his 450 career. It’s exciting to watch. I always say the only one that beats Jett, is Jett (except a healthy Gajser beat him straight up during his undefeated season).
Most of his injuries have been sx related. I believe the only outdoor season he had to pull out of his whole career was "24. But I cant argue with anything you said. And his ACL wasnt even a crash
That was after he absolutely wadded at Hangtown too
Jett has his arrogant moments…. But he’s not in the same zip code as Deegan when it comes to being an arrogant narcissist.
On another note, it makes it easy to appreciate the humbleness of Tomac.
I read it in a Ricky from TPB voice instead of Jett’s and it’s way less arrogant.
The way you've worded this implies he's a massive crasher who only stays off the ground 'nearly 50 per cent' of the time. What you mean to say is he has missed nearly 50 per cent of the races he could have competed in during his 450 career. Crashing out of half your races versus missing them due to three different long term injuries is not the same thing at all...
I'd like to see someone argue against this point, because then they'd have to argue against RV being one of the greats, too.
No, that was when he hit his head. He still won every overall after that. He injured his thumb in a practice crash that summer that sidelined him.
His personal stalker DonM is always lurking to pounce. "HaIR LiCkeR aS uSUAl" followed by some lame gas light and made up "fact".
Similar to all the other great riders.
RC, JS7, Reed, Tomac, Windham, Pastrana, Hannah, and more
He didn’t hit his head, he put a huge gash in his leg and hurt his shoulder. Yes he won every overall but he did hurt himself in that crash.
Get off the pipe, Jetts the best rider you have ever seen in your life!
Peak Tomac smokes Ricky and James
Personally, I don’t like it when one person wins everything. It can make the races boring. With that said, having seen Jett ride in person, the dude is absolutely amazing. I listened to the interview and it was tough for a bit but once I got i got used to the bro talk, I really enjoyed it. I didn’t find him arrogant at all, probably way less arrogant than I’d be if I spanked all the best riders in the world. Yes, the world! I was at MXON last year and he was on a completely different level. YOMV.
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When he crashes, they are massive is what I am saying. Your stats prove that. His crashes account for a large amount of gates he hasn’t been able to line up at in his 450 career. Every year since being on a 450 he has had a crash leading to a multiple race break and a series opportunity missed. Which is exactly what I already said, Jett is the only guy to beat Jett (except Gajser straight up beat him when both were on their game).
OK what about his 2nd or 3rd 450 season?
His 2nd and 3rd seasons he pushed RC as hard as he's ever been pushed. And he crashed a lot…
I maintain that RC and Jett are unmatched on 4-strokes and that Stew and MC are the best ever on 2-strokes
I love that you reached back to "The Greatest." So entertaining to hear him speak.
I'm in trouble because I'm normal and slightly arrogant. A lot of people don't like themselves and I happen to be totally in love with myself.
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Yeah agreed. I just didnt agree with the guy on the first page saying RC and JS would have smoked Jett when JS first 3 seasons were 10th, 4th and 7th while Jett went undefeated his first season.
I agree that Jett is historically elite.
I heavily disagree with your Deegan/Barcia statement, though. Deegan is objectively one of the best 250 riders we've seen in the past couple of decades. Barcia had a very good 250 career and has had a respectable 450 career as well, but he was never the level that Deegan is at right now. It would be a failure, plain and simple, if Deegan's 450 career ended up like Barcia's. Again, Barcia has had a respectable career - a few SX wins and several podiums indoors & outdoors is better than the vast majority of professional racers. But Deegan, by becoming an objectively dominant rider in both disciplines on the 250 and likely joining an elite group of 4x 250 champs, is raising the bar for what would be considered a "successful" career by his own standard.
IMO, if he is not a multi-time champion (with at least 1 in each discipline), it will be an underwhelming career. I realize this will be difficult, with Jett likely being his competition for several years and Hunter just now reaching his peak (not to mention Sexton, if he ever figures himself out again). But that's the way the cookie crumbles.
This is coming from a guy that trained on Magic Mushrooms. Now think about that . Haha
The Barcia comparison isn't even close. Deegan has two national titles, Barcia didn't win any.
Barcia who was racing Eli Tomac, Ken Roczen, Ryan Dungey, Christophe Pourcel, Trey Canard, Blake Baggett, Marvin Musquin?
Or Deegan who was racing Jo Shimoda?
I don’t even think Barcia won a 250 national. Maybe 1-2?
There’s a bit of an underlying discussion in here about when one guys winning everything…the racing is “boring” or whatever.
Not to me.
Wether its JS7 or MC or Eli or Jett…when one of thee guys comes along and kicks some serious ass…?
I think it’s awesome.
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