I think he said it was his sons idea, but he basically said in order to do single, double, triple points, instead of what theyre doing now make the first race a normal supercross where the main pays out full points, then the second race would be a normal motocross race with 2 motos and each moto pays out full points, then the final race would be an sx triple crown and all 3 races would pay out full points. Definitely an interesting idea in my opinion, I think this could be cool.
It actually kind of makes more sense too because instead of just making the playoffs into a new thing where its sx tracks without the whoops and calling it supermotocross the 3 rounds you race sx, mx, and a triple crown are the same races they do during the year but all 3 in a row. Cant lie its outside the box thinking and I think it sounds cool.
What are some ideas or tweaks you think could make the playoffs a better series?
If they do the "Wildcard" race for entry, and no heats and all that. Maybe make it 25 min main for 450s? Then 2 20s for 2nd round, then 3 15 mins mains? Longer races, but their worth more. Although 3 15 mins might make the track too beat up, the 25 min round 1 should be feasible.
Just an idea.
Could be an idea, it does feel like they need to try a few things before they get it right.
Sign me up. I'd even suggest one more modification to better generate the playoff vibe: take 40 for round 1 (22 to the mains), 30 for the MX-like round 2, then just the top 22 after those rounds auto qualify for the triple crown round 3.
I like the idea, the issues I see is there is very little racing on the track at round 1, with only one main, maybe they could add to the night show with the wildcard race ,
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I don’t think it’s a bad idea but to me to have a “true” motocross race they have to do it at an established track like Red Bud, Millville etc. which they don’t seem interested in doing. I think I’m in the minority here but I thought last weeks track was the best example of a hybrid track we’ve seen since these SMX races have started. Although that’s more because of how it roughed up rather than the layout itself.
Cool in theory, but it kills the point of SMX, to create a final race that is worth the vast majority of the marbles. The way that idea is, it's pretty likely the last race will be a snoozefest.
It's not perfect, but I actually really like the way smx is now. Imo, the first year nailed it perfectly with the tracks.
I heard somewhere, that if you want smx be successful, you listen to what Daniel thinks and do the opposite. 🤔
These voices your hearing that are telling you this...must be coming from inside your own head.
I think it’s fine. It’ll never be perfect to everyone. What I do wish is that supercross was a two moto format like smx. Way better to me. However that’s just my opinion. End of the day I want to kick back have a cold one and watch them race. I don’t really care how they mish mash the shit up lol
I like the idea but also think the track has to be one that is NOT typically on the circuit if we are trying to mix things up.
It needs to be a 1 weekend mec (fri and sat night) for 5 million bucks if they actually wanna do something worth doing... any variation of a 3 weeks mini series isn't good for the riders or the sport... these guys are cooked give them a couple weekends back...
Stay off discord, you’ll be indoctrinated. If you’re not careful they’ll turn you into a Leigh Diffey fan.
Lets upgrade this upgrade:
- First event: Supercross race (1 Main Event)
- Second Event: USGP (Somewhere on a epic track with natural elevation in the big region: Texas up to Oklahoma making a square towards N.C. and Florida and everything in that square ) (20 SMX qualified riders + 20 MXGP Riders + wildcards.) [Racing The two Day schedule, with both series combined this could create huge point swings in both the world championship as SMX Series)
- Third Event: Supercross Triple crown (but every main event pays points). 75 Points are on the line.
From a points perspective it’s by far the most logical..
Since it’s “hybrid” why can’t they just race a shortened version of an outdoor track and whack some rhythms in it as one of the tracks?
I’m all for bringing back the LA coliseum, that was epic
I 100 percent agree.
For the 1st round you could even add a superpole race to add some more riding to the program.
It would be cool to use that moto format he suggested, and combine it with this;
Round one sx track traditional stadium - 1 main event format
Round 2 mx track maybe ww ranch or another that used to be on the schedule and now isn’t - 2 moto format
Round 3 - speed way track like the first oversized sx tracks were at Georgia motor speedway or even just daytona think. 3 moto format.
I think the SMX thing is broken, from what I hear and see. So many podcasts are talking about problems. It's a shame there is little vision on motosports promotion today.
Why is it broken? Next week, for the third straight year, there are at least 2 riders with a chance to win the 450 championship. I think all 3 years the 250 class was the same, except Hunter got hurt in 2023 and wasn't able to race. Isn't that the goal - to crown a champion, and to have each round of the raceoffs to have meaning?
Edit: I guess Deegan pretty much wrapped up the championship last year after the second round.
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It feels contrived and forced and gimmicky and they over hype it so much to try to convince us of how amazing it is.
That’s the sentiment.
Why do you think Levi all of a sudden decided to take Degan out? Think that was an accident? There’s a network involved now. Controversy brings viewers.
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It sounds very reasonable to me. I do think the current system needs some tweaking. I am a little underwhelmed by the 3 SMX finals. Day races on artificial tracks at a dragstrip just don't have the appeal to me, but the watered down St. Louis track wasn't particularly appealing either. Though Charlotte might have been good, but the rain ruined that. I'm not sure another true outdoor is necessary, but I'd take that over what we've had so far this season.
Try do do all races under the lights/indoors. Venues like LA Coliseum, Vegas, or Daytona have a championship worthy vibe to them.
Race 1: SX like track indoors (if possible), 1 final
Race 2: Outdoor-like track at a speedway with lights (Daytona, Indy, Charlotte, ...), 2x points/motos
Race 3: Finale at LA Coliseum or Vegas at night. Triple crown
Each race in this "Raceoff" Series is a Main Event. It should definitely pay normal points per moto. I do like the 1 main for round 1, 2 Motos for round 2 and Triple Crown for round 3. All getting normal points per moto. That way some idiot can't ruin the entire series in 1 race by, I don't know, nuking the guy that's winning title when you are 5th in points...
maybe instead of 3 different weekends they could just do it over a weekend. seems 3 additional races has been a lot on the riders & teams.
They could do a friday night race, then spend saturday re-designing the track & do a sunday finale. Yeah they don't get 3 markets but also shorten the year by 2 weekends. I don't know all the specifics but I feel like it could potentially work.
Wirh triple crown paying 25 each to win for 75 total
The first change should be to stop calling it Super Motocross so we can stop sounding like a bunch of kindergarteners that made up a new game for recess.
Skip SMX. The season is long enough the way it is. 17 SX rounds, 12 mx rounds, & mxon. 30 / 52 weekends is enough.
I would propose that they drop Daytona from the Supercross schedule, and for SMX have three speedway tracks, with Daytona as the finale.
I don’t really like the hybrid tracks where they have a couple sections that are true Supercross rhythms. It sounds horrible for the riders who are forced to ride a stiff setup that isn’t suited to 90% of the track.
The tracks don’t need to have steep Supercross style transitions. A man-made track at a venue is already a hybrid between outdoors and supercross, so just focus on making the best tracks that would make sense for those venues and are basically in between outdoors and supercross in terms of roughness and jumpiness. Don’t try to inject “Supercross” into it just for dumb marketing reasons.
Great idea for the existing fans. Brings meaning to the escalating points per race. For the casual fan that Feld covets it would be confusing though.
Maybe they should throw a supercross race in the middle of the motocross season, then a motocross race in the middle of the supercross season .... and let those count for points towards SMX 😛
Let 1 monster truck onto the track each week driven by a dude beefing with the red plate.
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