Honda?

milamcreek
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This is going to start something, but with the recent finishes from Hunter I'm calling BS. 

Honda is up to something and should be looked at. 

Reason: Jett smoking fast, Hunter fast. But for them to leave the field behind by over a minute in four rounds bullshit. No one does that. Eli 2015 over the field but golden rod was closing the gap before Eli torpedoed in the ground. They're increasing weekly, no way Hunter is pulling this off without help. I cannot believe red flags aren't going up everywhere in the paddock. 

All I'm saying is something is fishy and it's beginning to stink 

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7/16/2025 7:41pm

Someone break out the tinfoil hats.

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7/16/2025 7:46pm

If you buy a Honda, you might also gap the field!

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7/16/2025 7:46pm

Honda has obviously taking the time, money and effort to give their riders the bike they need to win. It’s may be pretty far off from the bike we buy on the showroom floor, or it may not be. Either way, they wanted to win and they did what they and their riders needed in order to do that. Every other manufacturer could do the exact same thing for their riders if and when they want to. 

I’m not a Honda fan at all, but I won’t take anything away from what they’ve done as a team the last few years.

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7/16/2025 7:47pm

I would be curious to see what Eli does the last 3 motos if his bike doesn't quit at Red Bud moto 1. That said, you almost have to hope something is up with Eli based on how he has ridden the last 3 motos.

Is Honda cheating, maybe? If you ain't cheating.. One thing is for sure, the Lawrences are killing it and working hard.

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7/16/2025 7:49pm

🥤🍿 say less but tell me more.

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7/16/2025 7:53pm

Bro... I hear you, but.... im not agreeing with you. I think the Lawrence's are just that good, and the Honda is also just as good. 

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7/16/2025 7:54pm

I saw Lars put a banana in Eli's tailpipe at Red Bud when nobody was looking. 

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7/16/2025 8:01pm

Youth is a hell of a drug. 

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7/16/2025 8:06pm

And when Chase is right there with them in a few more rounds I want you to say the same thing about KTM

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7/16/2025 8:10pm

And when Chase is right there with them in a few more rounds I want you to say the same thing about KTM

We used to 5 years ago

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7/16/2025 8:10pm

Someone post that ancient aliens guy

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7/16/2025 8:13pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2025 8:16pm

Although the OP is on a witch hunt he should bear in mind that Honda has actually been winning a few titles in the past few years and not only with the Lawrence's 

HRC have put in the effort and a) got good riders and b) developed(ing) the bike well

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milamcreek wrote:
This is going to start something, but with the recent finishes from Hunter I'm calling BS. Honda is up to something and should be looked at. Reason: Jett...

This is going to start something, but with the recent finishes from Hunter I'm calling BS. 

Honda is up to something and should be looked at. 

Reason: Jett smoking fast, Hunter fast. But for them to leave the field behind by over a minute in four rounds bullshit. No one does that. Eli 2015 over the field but golden rod was closing the gap before Eli torpedoed in the ground. They're increasing weekly, no way Hunter is pulling this off without help. I cannot believe red flags aren't going up everywhere in the paddock. 

All I'm saying is something is fishy and it's beginning to stink 

Dumbest shit I have read on here all year and that's a tough list.  What would they be cheating with??  It's 80-90% rider and 450's are already basically detuned from what they are capable of.  

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Pulp MX is already on this. He's running a major test at Washougal. AMA, HRC, the whole industry is going to be there. It's very scientific and standardized testing. The only question is first turn or no first turn.

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7/16/2025 8:27pm

People really have gotten stupider.

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7/16/2025 8:33pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2025 8:35pm

You know how the toilets go the wrong way down there? Well that’s why the Lawrence brothers have so much corner speed.  It’s a reverse gyro effect.  They’re using simple mechanisms AGAINST the US riders. They’re using speedy fast mechanisms.  That and Lars you know how he’s always so chill and cool? I don’t trust it man.  Not any of it.

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7/16/2025 8:37pm

Next they'll claim honda is hacking the other teams ecu's during the race. Making the other teams bikes slower.  With Jewish lazers too. 

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7/16/2025 8:38pm
SoCalMX70 wrote:

People really have gotten stupider.

There was a documentary about this 20 years ago...

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7/16/2025 8:51pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2025 8:52pm

Right.

Because it definitely couldn’t be the combination of a proud company with deep pockets seeking to regain their dominance of the 80s/90s combined with two talented brothers who are all-in on the sport and relatively early in their careers (especially the younger one). Nope, gotta be a conspiracy…🙄

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milamcreek wrote:
This is going to start something, but with the recent finishes from Hunter I'm calling BS. Honda is up to something and should be looked at. Reason: Jett...

This is going to start something, but with the recent finishes from Hunter I'm calling BS. 

Honda is up to something and should be looked at. 

Reason: Jett smoking fast, Hunter fast. But for them to leave the field behind by over a minute in four rounds bullshit. No one does that. Eli 2015 over the field but golden rod was closing the gap before Eli torpedoed in the ground. They're increasing weekly, no way Hunter is pulling this off without help. I cannot believe red flags aren't going up everywhere in the paddock. 

All I'm saying is something is fishy and it's beginning to stink 

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Follow the leader, he's on a Honda. 

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drugs are bad mkay 

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I think with the Lawrence's, they don't let the bike performance get in their head if it's not ideal. They just ride around any potential issues. 

Bike's are never perfect on every part of the race track, whereas it seems a lot of racers nowadays have one slide through a corner or a kick off a braking bump and immediately want to change the bike. 

Jett washed out at Millville, but I bet he didn't make any changes to his bike this week. Racers crash, it happens. At the top level, IMO, it's the mindset that makes the difference. If you race thinking your bike needs work, you're never going to win.

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