Yamaha raising prices

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If Yamaha sells all of their production at the new higher prices they should have raised prices a long time ago. 

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dang472 wrote:
So Kawasaki has the exact same retail price on their 26 450 as it was in 2025. Are they better at this than Yamaha? Or is...

So Kawasaki has the exact same retail price on their 26 450 as it was in 2025. Are they better at this than Yamaha? Or is it a convenient excuse to raise prices?

I think Kawasaki hits their dealers with sur charges too.  They do it rather than raise the dealer and retail price.

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listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better...


listened to a podcast with Deegans mechanic on Gypsy Tales a few months ago where he said some Yamaha higher ups essentially told him “you’d better vote the right way if you want to keep your job”


Kinda funny in hindsight.


 

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KHNC wrote:

Cant the california voters and liberals fix this issue? I mean, they seem to be the smartest people around. 

https://youtu.be/7kd52-gYMis?si=aPT2oL5Q9ioVEsF2

 

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The biggest mistake you can make is thinking your vote fixes anything. I heard we were ending wars not starting them,  and today looks a little different.Oil...

The biggest mistake you can make is thinking your vote fixes anything. 

I heard we were ending wars not starting them,  and today looks a little different.

Oil prices are up already today.

We aren't starting anything. How would you fix the mess this administration inherited?

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How is it any different?I'm always amazed how the Trump worshippers shit talk on Liberals for being blind followers but fail to recognize themselves as being...

How is it any different?

I'm always amazed how the Trump worshippers shit talk on Liberals for being blind followers but fail to recognize themselves as being the same thing.

You realize that just because you think Trump is the savior of the world and worship him that it doesn't make the people who disagree with you wrong?

 

Trump worshipper? I think you are taking that a bit far my man. I am far from that. Some things I like, some things are shitty.

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Japs mad their economy is destroyed cause they can’t open their eyes enough to see into the future. 

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Japs mad their economy is destroyed cause they can’t open their eyes enough to see into the future. 

If this thread was a contest to see who says the absolute dumbest thing you win 🥇 

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6/14/2025 10:30am Edited Date/Time 6/14/2025 10:31am

no one is forcing you to buy a new motorcycle, market dictates the final sale price… in other words “speak with your wallet”! 

remember the exorbitant dealer mark ups of thousands of dollars during the last administration… where were you then complaining against that administration?

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The moto community is very right wing dominated, the fact this forum is a hive of fucking retard leftists is proof enough none of you clowns...

The moto community is very right wing dominated, the fact this forum is a hive of fucking retard leftists is proof enough none of you clowns ride.

I rode Friday, then went to a “no kings” protest in Philly. 

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Tariffs go against free market Capitalism which is why most economist have traditionally been against them.  But for free trade to truly benefit all parties, the parties need to play by similar rules.  Think the EU.  They are very protectionist and very free trade at the same time.  Depends on who they are trading with and the rules those countries play by.    

There is plenty of growing evidence that the free trade movement of the 1990s and 2000s has gutted the middle class of America and grown the economic disparity between rich and poor.  The job numbers don't look bad on the surface, but many of those jobs have shifted to retail and part time work with few benefits.  

The other solution of Raising corporate income taxes,  also just passes cost on to the consumer.  It's the way business works.  The thing is, in the long run, companies can only raise their prices so much before consumers start buying less.  Then companies have to adjust to find ways to bring prices back down.  That might mean moving production back to America to avoid tariffs, technological advancement, automation.  It's an endless cycle.  The short term effect of tariffs is almost always higher prices, but the long term impact could possibly be beneficial at least in some industries and markets.  

Not to mention many tariffs are just used to negotiate with foreign nations and rarely last, at least at the excessively high percentages they start at.  And as a result the lasting impact on prices isn't as exorbitant as first figured.  

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WOAH! Its not just Yamahahahaha raising prices... 
Kawasuckit quietly raises their pricing and adds in the BS "supply chain" charges to it as well.  

Learn for yourself:
https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/kx/full-size-mx/kx-250/2026-kx250

https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/kx/full-size-cross-country/kx-450x/2026-kx450x

https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/kx/kx-youth-mx/kx-65/2026-kx65

https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/klx/off-road/klx110r/2026-klx110r

https://www.kawasaki.com/en-us/motorcycle/klx/dual-sport/klx300/2026-klx300

If anyone needs a calculator... Good F___ing Luck finding someone on here who can use one. 

I think i will stick it out with my trusty and rusty '97 ATK 605 for another year. FTW!

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Anyone know if there are any significant updates planned for the 2026 YZ250 2T?

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FGR01 wrote:
The dollar is still at historic highs vs the Yen.  Make it make sense. 

The dollar is still at historic highs vs the Yen.  Make it make sense. 

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Why would that have any affect on import charges? someone has to pay. Doesn't really matter what currency it is in, does it?

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Anyone know if there are any significant updates planned for the 2026 YZ250 2T?

I hope not 🤞🏻

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seth505 wrote:

This is the type of thread that outs all the orange guy worshippers.  

BobPA wrote:

Far from my friend

LungButter wrote:
How is it any different?I'm always amazed how the Trump worshippers shit talk on Liberals for being blind followers but fail to recognize themselves as being...

How is it any different?

I'm always amazed how the Trump worshippers shit talk on Liberals for being blind followers but fail to recognize themselves as being the same thing.

You realize that just because you think Trump is the savior of the world and worship him that it doesn't make the people who disagree with you wrong?

 

All I have learned throughout this tariff debacle, is that it is going to take ALOT more pain and homelessness to convince anyone that tariffs are a stupid blanket tax and will only serve to increase prices on things. But somehow, bringing all the $5/hr jobs into America and paying people $30/hr is going to make it cheap again... SMH.

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They produced their 25 models in 24. I’d be shocked if they weren’t all imported already into their respective countries (including ours). If that’s the case...

They produced their 25 models in 24. I’d be shocked if they weren’t all imported already into their respective countries (including ours). If that’s the case, how can they blame tariffs?

Yes, I understand that anything imported AFTER tariffs are imposed would be subject to them and a commensurate price increase would be logical-but current models already imported? Am I missing something here?

The letter specifically states the invoice dates effected. Tariffs are based on date of import (shipment/invoice), not date of production.

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That was my point. It should be on date of import, but they also refer to 2025 models…would there be any 25 models not yet in...

That was my point. It should be on date of import, but they also refer to 2025 models…would there be any 25 models not yet in the country? I’d think they’d all have been here before the tariffs took effect?

Why would they all be here? You think there is some warehouse with free storage for all the Yamahas America needs? They are shipped in installments, on a schedule. The ones that are still to be shipped will be hit with import tariffs... If you thought the dealers were storing them for free, I understand your lack of thought process on the tariffs i guess.

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The moto community is very right wing dominated, the fact this forum is a hive of fucking retard leftists is proof enough none of you clowns...

The moto community is very right wing dominated, the fact this forum is a hive of fucking retard leftists is proof enough none of you clowns ride.

I rode Friday, then went to a “no kings” protest in Philly. 

I rode Friday, then went to a “no kings” protest in Philly. 

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lmao

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FGR01 wrote:
The dollar is still at historic highs vs the Yen.  Make it make sense. 

The dollar is still at historic highs vs the Yen.  Make it make sense. 

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Jkawi wrote:

Why would that have any affect on import charges? someone has to pay. Doesn't really matter what currency it is in, does it?

The point being, the dollar has very strong buying power against the Yen.  Basically anything made in Japan at Yen prices, they are making a killing selling it in the USA for US Dollars.  Another way to look at it, when the Yen was very strong against the dollar, Japanese bike prices shot up, and everyone understood they had to to account for the exchange rate.  Funny how they are not decreasing now that the Yen is very weak.  It has been this way for 3-4 years now.  Way before any tariff talk.

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I rode Friday, then went to a “no kings” protest in Philly. 

I rode Friday, then went to a “no kings” protest in Philly. 

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Should have kept your bike in the back of your truck when you went to the protest in Philly.  I am sure it would have been OK amongst all those fine, peaceful protestors.   😏

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The letter specifically states the invoice dates effected. Tariffs are based on date of import (shipment/invoice), not date of production.

PNWMXer wrote:
That was my point. It should be on date of import, but they also refer to 2025 models…would there be any 25 models not yet in...

That was my point. It should be on date of import, but they also refer to 2025 models…would there be any 25 models not yet in the country? I’d think they’d all have been here before the tariffs took effect?

Jkawi wrote:
Why would they all be here? You think there is some warehouse with free storage for all the Yamahas America needs? They are shipped in installments...

Why would they all be here? You think there is some warehouse with free storage for all the Yamahas America needs? They are shipped in installments, on a schedule. The ones that are still to be shipped will be hit with import tariffs... If you thought the dealers were storing them for free, I understand your lack of thought process on the tariffs i guess.

Who pissed in your wheaties this morning?

I asked a question for my own curiosity based on my understanding of bike importation. I believed that the years’ production for a given country was imported in one shot and stored in a company warehouse (in this case stateside), then sent in installments from there to dealers. If that’s incorrect, I am grateful to learn something…but you don’t need to be an asshole about it.

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This is funny since there is actually no increased tariff at this time. the standard tariff is in place of 10%. The 24% increase was placed on a 90 day pause started on April 5th while the countries work on an agreement. We need to let the man do his job. If Yamaha is raising prices under the flag of tariffs they are screwing everyone because they have not been charged any additional tariffs at this point and probably will not be when they Japan quits screwing us. 

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motoxxx599 wrote:
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milamcreek wrote:
This is funny since there is actually no increased tariff at this time. the standard tariff is in place of 10%. The 24% increase was placed...

This is funny since there is actually no increased tariff at this time. the standard tariff is in place of 10%. The 24% increase was placed on a 90 day pause started on April 5th while the countries work on an agreement. We need to let the man do his job. If Yamaha is raising prices under the flag of tariffs they are screwing everyone because they have not been charged any additional tariffs at this point and probably will not be when they Japan quits screwing us. 

My favorite is watching some companies add the "tariff increase" on to the final purchase price,  when in reality they pay the tariff on the import price, so any additional cost over that is just them screwing consumers.  Nobody should be buying anything from any company that tacks on a "20% tariff fee" to their retail price, that's just them playing the odds and knowing most people aren't smart enough to know the difference between retail and import pricing.

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motoxxx599 wrote:
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milamcreek wrote:
This is funny since there is actually no increased tariff at this time. the standard tariff is in place of 10%. The 24% increase was placed...

This is funny since there is actually no increased tariff at this time. the standard tariff is in place of 10%. The 24% increase was placed on a 90 day pause started on April 5th while the countries work on an agreement. We need to let the man do his job. If Yamaha is raising prices under the flag of tariffs they are screwing everyone because they have not been charged any additional tariffs at this point and probably will not be when they Japan quits screwing us. 

10% tariff is actually a huge increase in tariff, it quadrupled overnight hence why you're starting to see consequences.

Edit: Kawasaki and Yamaha new "supply chain surcharge" ($650 on 450s) tracks pretty well with the tariff hike.

Given they're taking a 7.5% hit on import/gross price (tariff hike from 2.5% to 10%), this roughly 6% surcharge on MSRP could unsurprisingly make the customer bear the burden of this extra tax (assuming a gross price about 80-85% of MSRP).

This is just an appetizer though, by the same token, if tariff were to go back to the initially stated 25%, you could expect a $2k "supply chain surcharge".

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JM485 wrote:
My favorite is watching some companies add the "tariff increase" on to the final purchase price,  when in reality they pay the tariff on the import...

My favorite is watching some companies add the "tariff increase" on to the final purchase price,  when in reality they pay the tariff on the import price, so any additional cost over that is just them screwing consumers.  Nobody should be buying anything from any company that tacks on a "20% tariff fee" to their retail price, that's just them playing the odds and knowing most people aren't smart enough to know the difference between retail and import pricing.

I haven't seen that yet. Where have you seen it? 

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I hope not 🤞🏻

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In 2015 the Canadian dollar was so bad I bought a 150SX, raced it for half of the year and sold it for a profit to someone in the US. Maybe I'll have to start doing that again.

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Anyone know if there are any significant updates planned for the 2026 YZ250 2T?

Rickyisms wrote:

I hope not 🤞🏻

Wanted to buy a new bike next year, decided not to wait with possible Tarrifs coming, picked this up last month. 

I was thinking maybe next year'sIMG 4049.JPG?VersionId=1 TgJ73 516FwysGZoleV N BNG are not as good looking, better pull the trigger now, this 2025 YZ250 is sexy!!

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Anyone know if there are any significant updates planned for the 2026 YZ250 2T?

Rickyisms wrote:

I hope not 🤞🏻

roost251 wrote:
Wanted to buy a new bike next year, decided not to wait with possible Tarrifs coming, picked this up last month. I was thinking maybe next year's...

Wanted to buy a new bike next year, decided not to wait with possible Tarrifs coming, picked this up last month. 

I was thinking maybe next year'sIMG 4049.JPG?VersionId=1 TgJ73 516FwysGZoleV N BNG are not as good looking, better pull the trigger now, this 2025 YZ250 is sexy!!

Sounds like they updated carb and intake tract and some cdi settings. Nothing that can’t be massaged by aftermarket 

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RichieW13 wrote:

I haven't seen that yet. Where have you seen it? 

If I remember correctly Digikey was doing it, as well as another larger company I saw but I’m forgetting where.  

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