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I have no business telling anyone what words to use. Whether I like a word or not is not really something I expect anyone else to consider important. But I really like this perspective.
You're kidding me right? How old are you, if i might ask respectfully. Im blown away you didn't know this
He just doesn't like Jett. He's not really offended
Goodness knows why could be a clause in their contract that was invoked ... who knows, speculation is rife with no facts available to us all at this point in time
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Wrong….on both counts
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I am not kidding I'd never known this.
Re "underestimate" I'm not sure how old most posters are, but going to public school in the modern era as a straight white male and being told you're the cause of all the worlds problems and you're going to have to give up opportunities because of your privilege and to atone for the sins of your ancestors might be why white males account for 60% of suicides at the moment. There's a lot of divisiveness coming from the top on all sides to be sure, but you can stop with the white guilt . It's not 1960 anymore.
@Black Diesel Bomber it doesn't matter what Mirtl tries to blackmail the Lawrences with because he's still getting taken to the cleaners by Wasserman no matter what.
Ah . . . no
I grew up and still live in an area with a pretty large Indigenous population and if I called one that name on the street or at school I would've got my arse kicked! Obviously not saying you're wrong just that it's gonna be different in different areas.. In fact I had a bigger problem with Jett saying that than the N word.. Not offended just disappointed as there seemed to be a bit more context behind it but still he was 14..
I remember seeing an interview with Reed talking about the differences in racism between Aus and the US, in the US he noticed there seems to be more hatred behind their racism.. (obviously not saying the US on the whole just the racist people being racist)
I take it the episodes are on a weekly basis?
No worries Gerg, maybe it's because you are from AU and you don't have the rap music over there that we have here. When I was growing up and in my teens, some of the gangster rap that emerged in the late 80's started heavily promoting the word Nigg*a and it's been like that ever since with hip hop. Back in my day you couldn't avoid this in the late 80's and 90's because it was so popular, it was played everywhere among the high school kids bumpin' (2) Cerwin Vega 12's in the trunk. Tons of these artists were at the top of the charts and made millions of dollars by selling millions of records to white kids like me. You couldn't sing along with any of the songs without using the word Nigg*a. I don't listen to today's hip hop but it's still the same as I hear the kids listening to it, it's still littered with the word Nigg*a everywhere. As a result, over the last 30+ yrs they have desensitized the word Nigg*a by selling it on their top hit albums. On the contrary, I have never heard top hit rap songs that constantly use the word Nigg*er, and this is why there's a difference in severity between the two versions.
I'm not saying it's okay to say either version, but I will say it would be much less offensive if a white kid like Jett says the word Nigg*a, because you could just write it off to him listening to hip hop. Nigg*er on the other hand is not promoted everywhere because it's the more derogatory word that blacks don't use to refer to their buddies. If they didn't want people using Nigg*a, they shouldn't be selling it in their albums. The unwritten law is that only blacks can say it without issue, but they know they are selling millions of albums to white kids so you really can't expect them not to use the words they promote in their "cool" songs.
All the artists I mentioned in my previous post and many more started this trend back in the 80's/90's that I referred to as the NWA era. There are hundreds of examples like the ones below, and a lot of them were top hits as you can see with hundreds of millions of views, and still very popular today:
Punching on because of being called Champ! Fuck I'm out of the loop, or you eastern staters are crazy....maybe both.
You understand what you just said can be true, AND it can be true that the Stewarts put up with shit that white people haven't had to right? It has nothing to do with white guilt. Racism still exists. Not to derail the thread...
I've said it before on here, but I find this decision by some of the riders baffling. Leaving aside the fact he stands accused of stealing more than $600k, he's also clearly completely unhinged - likely from drugs.
Imagine sending this guy in to negotiate something for you? He's in no condition to negotiate his latest bag of meth or the hourly rate of his latest 'babysitter' let alone take care of business deals for motorsport professionals.
I’m sure he is sorry you are sensitive.
It doesn't have to be a dick measuring contest regarding the specific ingredients in each respective parties' shit sandwiches. My counterpoInt to Steve jobs was simply "we do know, actually." Boomers might not, but we do.
Yep 53 here and never knew it either. They’re both the same friggen word to me.
Maybe it’s an Aussie thing, but more likely because I didn’t get my cultural learnings from gangster wrap 😆
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Imagine sending him in to negotiate your contract ????
He put the Lawrences at Honda Factory ? .....and did pretty well for all the other riders in his bag.
I don't have a dog in this fight because I don't like the Lawrences, or Mirtl, but he must be good at his job....as are the Lawrences.
Ehhh not sure if he’s even qualified at his job at all. He has put a good amount of people in great places contractually. But, this is moto and sx it’s all just a joke and the guy with the best knee pads wins.
Yep same thing I quoted the other guy on… it’s mx smx super duper motoR Cross. It’s the good ol boys club and everyone sucks each other off to be in a position of power here. 99% of the guys don’t make much more than a guy at Home Depot but they are “industry”. I find it hilarious from the outside looking in at most industry guys. At the same time I hate how most of our moto mechanics make damn near nothing and work their asses off 24/7. The top mechanics who do make a decent living (ups driver like)…. The few I know act as if they are a Hollywood star 😂. Meanwhile I still love this sport and hope to see ya guys at Pala.
Yeah man on the contrary: whats do you guys think would happen to my cracker ass in downtown Greenville NC at 2 AM?
Only in the US something like this gest blown out of proportion. Its a damn word that you here on the radio every day maby 100times. Why is anyone even bothered,everyone should be able to say it in today. Not in a good way but you skin colcor should not decide what you can say and not, that is racist if something is.
Ehhh carry and you’ll be good. I may be blind but it’s 2025 I have not saw anyone hate another person due to their skin color etc…
I've also said this before - a single braincell in a vat of liquid being carried about by a large lobotomised ant could get Jett Lawrence signed to a factory team. He sells himself. I tend to think Mirtl has been a net negative overall for the Lawrences. I suspect most of the things that are distractions to them and problematic for the fans - donuts, wearing boxing clothes at A1 etc - were Mirtl's doing.
As for the other riders, where is your comparison? You could only make the claim he's done 'pretty well' for the other riders if you know how other agents working within the same context and conditions would have done.
Not trying to defend Mirtl at all here, because he’s obviously way out to lunch, but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to learn the boxing robe thing was a Feld idea.
Everyone blown away by how he knew what Coon was, holy haha every kid knew that term in school here in Australia, it still gets used alot, the whole N*gga word, to me it's just a word.
Yes i have dark friends and the names I call them people would be blown away with.
Yep it was commonly used when I was in school, haven't heard it much for years though.
Im down with the hoodrat type shit
You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.🙃