Eli out at Yamaha?

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Where did he say this?

The newest outdoor podcast

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As said by someone earlier, I'd bet money Eli will not ride a bike with Showa suspension on it next year.Beyond that, I feel he'll still...

As said by someone earlier, I'd bet money Eli will not ride a bike with Showa suspension on it next year.

Beyond that, I feel he'll still be a free-agent for next year for the next few months.

Why? This is something i cant wrap my head around. Can Showa not do shims and mid-valves like KYB for some reason? 

I get the single side air/damping WP forks not being able to perform, but whats so different with Showa? 

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Monster energy kawi

dadofagun wrote:

Not gonna happen.....  They are locked and loaded for the next 2 years minimum

Yea that one is hard to believe 

What is so difficult?  Prado has 2 years left on his deal, Chase would be a minimum 2 years at the very least.  Pretty simple logic to figure out.......    Chase going green is no secret.

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5/19/2025 5:44pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2025 6:05pm
dadofagun wrote:

Not gonna happen.....  They are locked and loaded for the next 2 years minimum

Yea that one is hard to believe 

dadofagun wrote:
What is so difficult?  Prado has 2 years left on his deal, Chase would be a minimum 2 years at the very least.  Pretty simple logic...

What is so difficult?  Prado has 2 years left on his deal, Chase would be a minimum 2 years at the very least.  Pretty simple logic to figure out.......    Chase going green is no secret.

So you would also find it hard to believe Eli requested to ride the kawi then? Odd response from you. Are you saying kawi will run three guys or are you confused about who we are talking about.


I just realize you were the guy I replied to. I was agreeing with you in my reply. 

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Yea that one is hard to believe 

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What is so difficult?  Prado has 2 years left on his deal, Chase would be a minimum 2 years at the very least.  Pretty simple logic...

What is so difficult?  Prado has 2 years left on his deal, Chase would be a minimum 2 years at the very least.  Pretty simple logic to figure out.......    Chase going green is no secret.

So you would also find it hard to believe Eli requested to ride the kawi then? Odd response from you. Are you saying kawi will run...

So you would also find it hard to believe Eli requested to ride the kawi then? Odd response from you. Are you saying kawi will run three guys or are you confused about who we are talking about.


I just realize you were the guy I replied to. I was agreeing with you in my reply. 

I am not saying MEK would run 3 guys next year at all.  Requesting one to test?  Anything is possible I guess.....  but I just don't think they would have 3 guys under a 450 tent is all.  However, they could afford that's for sure.  However, Prado and Chase are signed and sealed for at least the next 2 seasons. 

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Eli to KTM is probable but the hurtle is that he is a Monster Energy athlete and KTM is Red Bull.   Ducati would be the...

Eli to KTM is probable but the hurtle is that he is a Monster Energy athlete and KTM is Red Bull.   Ducati would be the more likely because they are Monster Energy related in Europe but not sure if they are ready to pay what he will ask if he is happy with the bike so I feel Barcia would be the man for Ducati. Anderson is a good choice for the vacant spot at HEP. 

Malcom to Triumph because the switch to FXR is a sign even though the fishing side is a smart move as well and Sexton to Kawi is most likely a done deal already. 

I believe it’s been said that the US Ducati team will be sponsored by Red Bull.

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Can't we get some other drink brands to sponsor race teams?

- Liquid Death Beta

- La Croix Triumph

- Snapple Ducati

Liquid Death in moto would be rad. Love the straight water. Plus it just sounds bad ass

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5/19/2025 6:28pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2025 7:35pm

Ducati off road general manger just outside of Cortez currently. On his instagram story, runs the mxgp moto program.

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Ducati off road general manger just outside of Cortez currently. On his instagram story, runs the mxgp moto program.

Link or it didn't happen.

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5/19/2025 7:04pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2025 7:58pm
Lineman25 wrote:

Swap saying tomac does not like the ktm and requested a bike from mek

I’m starting to the think Swap is just saying shit for clicks or something. He said Prado was moving to Florida for MX training when he was already locked in to train at ClubMX. Then he said Tomac has 3 brands in his garage right now.. Maybe I guess but lately his claims have all been wrong. 

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Lineman25 wrote:

Swap saying tomac does not like the ktm and requested a bike from mek

aeffertz wrote:
I’m starting to the think Swap is just saying shit for clicks or something. He said Prado was moving to Florida for MX training when he...

I’m starting to the think Swap is just saying shit for clicks or something. He said Prado was moving to Florida for MX training when he was already locked in to train at ClubMX. Then he said Tomac has 3 brands in his garage right now.. Maybe I guess but lately his claims have all been wrong. 

Oh I'm sure a lot of it is just stirring the pot bs

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5/19/2025 7:24pm
benw127 wrote:

Ducati off road general manger just outside of Cortez currently. On his instagram story, runs the mxgp moto program.

So Eli is switching to GNCC!

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There’s still a long ways to go, but it’s starting to feel like TLD Duc might find a way to get it done.  Was a long shot, maybe still a long shot…. But.

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He’s not going back to KawiDucati has PPG (Eli’s personal long time sponsor,) Troy Lee (Eli wore TLD his entire amateur career,) FC suspenders (FC/Geico Honda...

He’s not going back to Kawi

Ducati has PPG (Eli’s personal long time sponsor,) Troy Lee (Eli wore TLD his entire amateur career,) FC suspenders (FC/Geico Honda connection,) Troy and astars are tight. 

From what I’ve heard, specifically my brothers girlfriends dad who works with a guy who lives in Colorado. He’ll be riding a factory bike next year. I don’t see color so I can’t tell you what color it will be. 

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GOLD

Lol.

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5/19/2025 7:50pm Edited Date/Time 5/19/2025 7:51pm

So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep Justin Cooper and CC who have exactly 0 450 wins between them. 

Make it make sense.  

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So Ducati thing is looking like a real possibility. If that's the case, surely they're going to hire a second established SX guy to help develop the bike and fill out the team. Who you got? Barcia and tomac as teammates? And how's it going to work doing all the necessary testing to get the thing ready for SX with tomac rarely leaving home to train? Does team Ducati have a physical US home yet? 

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5/19/2025 8:16pm
truck wrote:
So Ducati thing is looking like a real possibility. If that's the case, surely they're going to hire a second established SX guy to help develop...

So Ducati thing is looking like a real possibility. If that's the case, surely they're going to hire a second established SX guy to help develop the bike and fill out the team. Who you got? Barcia and tomac as teammates? And how's it going to work doing all the necessary testing to get the thing ready for SX with tomac rarely leaving home to train? Does team Ducati have a physical US home yet? 

Tmac has a track to train on at home, Ducati could develop the bike at Tomac's track.

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truck wrote:
So Ducati thing is looking like a real possibility. If that's the case, surely they're going to hire a second established SX guy to help develop...

So Ducati thing is looking like a real possibility. If that's the case, surely they're going to hire a second established SX guy to help develop the bike and fill out the team. Who you got? Barcia and tomac as teammates? And how's it going to work doing all the necessary testing to get the thing ready for SX with tomac rarely leaving home to train? Does team Ducati have a physical US home yet? 

Tmac has a track to train on at home, Ducati could develop the bike at Tomac's track.

They were riding it with Seely last week at the test tracks in corona 

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So, Tomac goes beast mode and wins the outdoors, and has Ducati carrying the red number one plate for its inaugural season outdoors..

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joshd wrote:
So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep...

So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep Justin Cooper and CC who have exactly 0 450 wins between them. 

Make it make sense.  

This entire deal makes no sense. Justin Cooper leveled up for sure but keeping him over Tomac or to not go after Sexton? Is trimming the 250 roster not an option? I'd love to see Sexton on a Star 450, the bike looks dialed. Tomac was ripping before both of his fluke injuries, it would be a shame to see him go. 

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joshd wrote:
So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep...

So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep Justin Cooper and CC who have exactly 0 450 wins between them. 

Make it make sense.  

FI2T wrote:
This entire deal makes no sense. Justin Cooper leveled up for sure but keeping him over Tomac or to not go after Sexton? Is trimming the...

This entire deal makes no sense. Justin Cooper leveled up for sure but keeping him over Tomac or to not go after Sexton? Is trimming the 250 roster not an option? I'd love to see Sexton on a Star 450, the bike looks dialed. Tomac was ripping before both of his fluke injuries, it would be a shame to see him go. 

Yamaha pays the 450 team, star pays the 250 team.

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Eli to KTM is probable but the hurtle is that he is a Monster Energy athlete and KTM is Red Bull.   Ducati would be the...

Eli to KTM is probable but the hurtle is that he is a Monster Energy athlete and KTM is Red Bull.   Ducati would be the more likely because they are Monster Energy related in Europe but not sure if they are ready to pay what he will ask if he is happy with the bike so I feel Barcia would be the man for Ducati. Anderson is a good choice for the vacant spot at HEP. 

Malcom to Triumph because the switch to FXR is a sign even though the fishing side is a smart move as well and Sexton to Kawi is most likely a done deal already. 

Chase switched from Monster to RedBull when he moved to KTM.

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joshd wrote:
So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep...

So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep Justin Cooper and CC who have exactly 0 450 wins between them. 

Make it make sense.  

They can probably get both Webb and Cooper for what they'd pay for Eli, and from a cold hard business perspective those two have delivered far more value than Eli in the last two years.

Eli is an all-timer and has built a huge legacy, but at some point you have to deliver and Eli hasn't delivered very much since the end of SX in 2023.  He's raced 21 out of 34 SX races, with two wins; 2 out of 22 outdoor rounds, and 3 out of 6 SMX rounds.  

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truck wrote:
So Ducati thing is looking like a real possibility. If that's the case, surely they're going to hire a second established SX guy to help develop...

So Ducati thing is looking like a real possibility. If that's the case, surely they're going to hire a second established SX guy to help develop the bike and fill out the team. Who you got? Barcia and tomac as teammates? And how's it going to work doing all the necessary testing to get the thing ready for SX with tomac rarely leaving home to train? Does team Ducati have a physical US home yet? 

I can see it now:

Eli- “Have you been testing the bike?”. 
Justin- “This year?”

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joshd wrote:
So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep...

So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep Justin Cooper and CC who have exactly 0 450 wins between them. 

Make it make sense.  

Webb reigning SX champ, reliable, great with the 250 guys. Jcoop long term, high quality 2nd rider, solid indoors/outdoors, team player. They're cheaper collectively & also play ball and train at the farm. They are also clearing way for Deegan who will be 450 MX next year.

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Tomac been testing the Ducati this week in co 

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joshd wrote:
So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep...

So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep Justin Cooper and CC who have exactly 0 450 wins between them. 

Make it make sense.  

Echo wrote:
Webb reigning SX champ, reliable, great with the 250 guys. Jcoop long term, high quality 2nd rider, solid indoors/outdoors, team player. They're cheaper collectively & also...

Webb reigning SX champ, reliable, great with the 250 guys. Jcoop long term, high quality 2nd rider, solid indoors/outdoors, team player. They're cheaper collectively & also play ball and train at the farm. They are also clearing way for Deegan who will be 450 MX next year.

People who are able to look at the situation objectively will get this.  People who love spending other people's money won't.

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Big brain time: Eli found the KTM to be so awful that he's trying to take Chase's spot at Kawi in order to force Chase to stick with KTM 😲

 

Alright I'm done schizo-posting. 

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So, Tomac goes beast mode and wins the outdoors, and has Ducati carrying the red number one plate for its inaugural season outdoors..

A few years ago I woulda laughed at this statement, there's no freaking way.

Fast forward to 2025, and in theory its possible. Tomac lines up for 2026 MX on the #1 Ducati. 

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5/20/2025 7:46am Edited Date/Time 5/20/2025 7:46am
joshd wrote:
So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep...

So Tomac and Sexton are the only two who can run with Jett on a good day and they want to ship Tomac off and keep Justin Cooper and CC who have exactly 0 450 wins between them. 

Make it make sense.  

FI2T wrote:
This entire deal makes no sense. Justin Cooper leveled up for sure but keeping him over Tomac or to not go after Sexton? Is trimming the...

This entire deal makes no sense. Justin Cooper leveled up for sure but keeping him over Tomac or to not go after Sexton? Is trimming the 250 roster not an option? I'd love to see Sexton on a Star 450, the bike looks dialed. Tomac was ripping before both of his fluke injuries, it would be a shame to see him go. 

If you’ve been following everything, it makes perfect sense. First off Yamaha pays the 450 budget, Star pays the 250 budget. ET has been up in the air about retiring for the past few years. These deals don’t come together in a day or two Yamaha, Star, etc. have to make plans in advance. You act like Yamaha doesn’t want him.

 Webb just won the Supercross title for Yamaha not only are they not going to let him go, he’s also going to get a pay increase for next year. Cooper is a solid second rider on the team, and would demand also a lot less money than Tomac or Sexton. Same thing with Sexton. They wouldn’t be able to afford him.

Then bring into account that Deegs will be moving up here in a year and Yamaha is not going to dare let him go. There’s only budget for so many riders and a lot of this falls on Tomac because he’s been hinting about retirement for the past few years. 

it will definitely be interesting to see where Tomac goes. KTM already has a race proven bike, but it’s also a steel frame. It may take a little bit to get used to. I think  Ducati needs a season or two to get their bike developed for Supercross which would be a huge risk for a rider in his last year or two that still wants to win. 🍿 

 

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