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4/4/2025 3:20pm
Tyler D wrote:
Just want to point out that "mental health" is also a health reason, but it's too taboo to mention specifically. too much stigma. if a factor...

Just want to point out that "mental health" is also a health reason, but it's too taboo to mention specifically. too much stigma. if a factor here, right or wrong, he won't be back at Kawi next year. downvote me for having an opinion if you want... 

DonM wrote:

More like wild speculation than an opinion...

As opposed to the measured opinions backed by facts in the rest of the thread? You pretty much made his point

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4/4/2025 3:23pm
Respectfully disagree, ML has done a great job of getting guys back here who were part of Motodrive and building vital into what it was. GuyB...

Respectfully disagree, ML has done a great job of getting guys back here who were part of Motodrive and building vital into what it was. GuyB was a decent guy as well, there were directives in place and sponsors to satisfy. That caused censorship which ran people off or they were clicked. Either way the place went down hill and everyone lost interest. I don't know the metrics these days but there doesn't seem to be nearly as much traffic as back in the day? If they start censoring again the few who come here will leave.

I'm not a cooksey fan but Moto is long overdue for someone who posts the truth. When was the last time you heard a PED story in moto? Do you think guys stopped trying to get an edge on the competition or healing their bodies faster? I doubt it! No one is reporting anything but fluff again which makes a story like Deegan doing doughnuts a big deal. Your sport is sad when the biggest stories take place off the track either in the announcer booth or in a parking lot driving a vehicle with four wheels........... I blame triple crowns (they are insufferable) and four strokes!

plowboy wrote:
I don't think you'll ever get reporting like the stick and ball sports.  The teams will just close ranks and we'll have even less than we...

I don't think you'll ever get reporting like the stick and ball sports.  The teams will just close ranks and we'll have even less than we do now.  It has always been this way.

This is kinda why we have the silly reporting we're seeing..."If I can't find the truth I'll make up a lie...it all pays the same".

The sport is relatively speaking tiny, with a tiny media made up of enthusiastic amateurs and bros, and teams who will blacklist anyone who doesn't blow them on a regular basis. There is no media that has enough economic clout to go against the teams - hence the situation in moto.

None of this is to say that Jason Anderson needs to elaborate on his health problems. 

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4/4/2025 3:25pm
They post on that absolute cesspool that is Instagram. Infinity worse than here. Vital is far more respectful than any social media platforms. No pro are...

They post on that absolute cesspool that is Instagram. Infinity worse than here. Vital is far more respectful than any social media platforms. No pro are going to go anywhere and shoot the shit. No matter how respectful people are there's always going to be savages. Even Instagram they're leaving a comment and not actually having a conversation. 

DonM wrote:
This place used to have many insiders posting here but most have been run off by the entitled trolls, now we just have a scattered few...

This place used to have many insiders posting here but most have been run off by the entitled trolls, now we just have a scattered few and they get piled on when they post like Savatgy's dad and Forkner's dad....hell this place even ran off Trey Canards mom.....

WhiteTaco wrote:
Like all the Branch Covidians that ran Ping off because he was talking about that he was experiencing on the ground....no way an actual first responder...

Like all the Branch Covidians that ran Ping off because he was talking about that he was experiencing on the ground....no way an actual first responder could know more about what was going on than Rachel Madow.  😂

Ah, the renowned epidemiologist David Pingree. 

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4/4/2025 3:29pm
Tyler D wrote:
Just want to point out that "mental health" is also a health reason, but it's too taboo to mention specifically. too much stigma. if a factor...

Just want to point out that "mental health" is also a health reason, but it's too taboo to mention specifically. too much stigma. if a factor here, right or wrong, he won't be back at Kawi next year. downvote me for having an opinion if you want... 

DonM wrote:

More like wild speculation than an opinion...

Speculation is a form of opinion. But back to the main issue, and leaving JA's health issues aside, I think he won't be back at Kawasaki anyway. Of course if Chase goes there then it's 100 per cent the case. But even if he doesn't JA hasn't done enough this season to keep his ride, especially considering he's well on the downside of his career. This is not 2022 anymore. 

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The Shop

4/4/2025 8:07pm

It’s oddly coincidental. Wouldn’t be the first time a rider pulled out because of “health” reasons when it really was the contract all along. If he hadn’t heard from Kawasaki yet when the Chase rumor started swirling I could see this playing out. Obviously all speculation, or an opinion. I hope JA is healthy.

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4/5/2025 12:44am
Herr Lich wrote:
Speculation is a form of opinion. But back to the main issue, and leaving JA's health issues aside, I think he won't be back at Kawasaki...

Speculation is a form of opinion. But back to the main issue, and leaving JA's health issues aside, I think he won't be back at Kawasaki anyway. Of course if Chase goes there then it's 100 per cent the case. But even if he doesn't JA hasn't done enough this season to keep his ride, especially considering he's well on the downside of his career. This is not 2022 anymore. 

How the hell do you figure he has gotten plenty of podiums this year and led a bunch of laps. You’re trippin

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4/5/2025 5:11am

Does anyone know if there was any drug testing las week at the track ? 

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4/5/2025 5:16am

Does anyone know if there was any drug testing las week at the track ? 

I thought the same to be honest, we have people get very sick all of a sudden when we ramp up the mid swing tests…

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4/5/2025 5:35am

Does anyone know if there was any drug testing las week at the track ? 

DadBod86 wrote:

I thought the same to be honest, we have people get very sick all of a sudden when we ramp up the mid swing tests…

The guy is out due to a family emergency/health issues and you guys are accusing him of failing drug tests? Just lock the thread already, nothing of value is being added here.

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4/5/2025 7:49am

Does anyone know if there was any drug testing las week at the track ? 

There are some people in this thread that need to be drug tested....

 

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Joey Bridges
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4/5/2025 8:05am

Does anyone know if there was any drug testing las week at the track ? 

Magoofan wrote:

There are some people in this thread that need to be drug tested....

 

There's not a thread on this entire forum that doesn't turn to complete dog shit around halfway through the 2nd page.

If not sooner.

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4/5/2025 8:07am

Does anyone know if there was any drug testing las week at the track ? 

Magoofan wrote:

There are some people in this thread that need to be drug tested....

 

Possible...of course.  Classless...yep.🤨

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4/5/2025 8:20am

There's not a thread on this entire forum that doesn't turn to complete dog shit around halfway through the 2nd page.

If not sooner.

In retrospect...you're completely correct.

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4/5/2025 8:23am

There's not a thread on this entire forum that doesn't turn to complete dog shit around halfway through the 2nd page.

If not sooner.

davistld01 wrote:

In retrospect...you're completely correct.

Word association and the pic of the day threads in non moto are the only exceptions. 

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4/5/2025 8:45am

There's not a thread on this entire forum that doesn't turn to complete dog shit around halfway through the 2nd page.

If not sooner.

Is it any surprise the reputation this board has in the industry. 

 

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4/5/2025 9:38am
Magoofan wrote:

There are some people in this thread that need to be drug tested....

 

Its just a question, dont be on a public forum if you get that easily offended by a kind of a reasonable question.

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4/5/2025 9:58am

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Unfortunately this thread is a good representation of society today and Vital is not immune.  
This once fantastic forum has been suffering from this for a while now.  It is becoming more and more of a dumping ground for unnecessary keyboard warrior egos. 

On topic, I have no idea what’s going on with Jason but as a human I hope he gets through whatever is going on as best as possible.   Life happens and sometimes it’s bigger than motorcycle racing or any other career for that matter.   
 

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4/5/2025 11:14am

There's not a thread on this entire forum that doesn't turn to complete dog shit around halfway through the 2nd page.

If not sooner.

Magoofan wrote:

Is it any surprise the reputation this board has in the industry. 

 

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4/5/2025 1:16pm
Respectfully disagree, ML has done a great job of getting guys back here who were part of Motodrive and building vital into what it was. GuyB...

Respectfully disagree, ML has done a great job of getting guys back here who were part of Motodrive and building vital into what it was. GuyB was a decent guy as well, there were directives in place and sponsors to satisfy. That caused censorship which ran people off or they were clicked. Either way the place went down hill and everyone lost interest. I don't know the metrics these days but there doesn't seem to be nearly as much traffic as back in the day? If they start censoring again the few who come here will leave.

I'm not a cooksey fan but Moto is long overdue for someone who posts the truth. When was the last time you heard a PED story in moto? Do you think guys stopped trying to get an edge on the competition or healing their bodies faster? I doubt it! No one is reporting anything but fluff again which makes a story like Deegan doing doughnuts a big deal. Your sport is sad when the biggest stories take place off the track either in the announcer booth or in a parking lot driving a vehicle with four wheels........... I blame triple crowns (they are insufferable) and four strokes!

plowboy wrote:
I don't think you'll ever get reporting like the stick and ball sports.  The teams will just close ranks and we'll have even less than we...

I don't think you'll ever get reporting like the stick and ball sports.  The teams will just close ranks and we'll have even less than we do now.  It has always been this way.

This is kinda why we have the silly reporting we're seeing..."If I can't find the truth I'll make up a lie...it all pays the same".

The teams won’t close ranks. They’ll be silly to do that. 

Those that try that, stop getting talked about and don’t get photos in the press. 

Less coverage and fewer photos won’t make sponsors happy. The sponsors shift to the team that IS getting the coverage. 

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4/5/2025 6:04pm
JWACK wrote:
.. Unfortunately this thread is a good representation of society today and Vital is not immune.  This once fantastic forum has been suffering from this for a...

.. 

Unfortunately this thread is a good representation of society today and Vital is not immune.  
This once fantastic forum has been suffering from this for a while now.  It is becoming more and more of a dumping ground for unnecessary keyboard warrior egos. 

On topic, I have no idea what’s going on with Jason but as a human I hope he gets through whatever is going on as best as possible.   Life happens and sometimes it’s bigger than motorcycle racing or any other career for that matter.   
 

I think online posting by classy logical people is winding down because of fear of being associated with the illogical mob that takes over everything.  And then the illogical mob feels even more empowered as they tell themselves how stupid everyone else is.  

It's literally taking over everything online and this place is a microcosm. The internet probably peaked about 10 years ago.  

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4/5/2025 8:55pm
JWACK wrote:
.. Unfortunately this thread is a good representation of society today and Vital is not immune.  This once fantastic forum has been suffering from this for a...

.. 

Unfortunately this thread is a good representation of society today and Vital is not immune.  
This once fantastic forum has been suffering from this for a while now.  It is becoming more and more of a dumping ground for unnecessary keyboard warrior egos. 

On topic, I have no idea what’s going on with Jason but as a human I hope he gets through whatever is going on as best as possible.   Life happens and sometimes it’s bigger than motorcycle racing or any other career for that matter.   
 

JB 19 wrote:
I think online posting by classy logical people is winding down because of fear of being associated with the illogical mob that takes over everything.  And...

I think online posting by classy logical people is winding down because of fear of being associated with the illogical mob that takes over everything.  And then the illogical mob feels even more empowered as they tell themselves how stupid everyone else is.  

It's literally taking over everything online and this place is a microcosm. The internet probably peaked about 10 years ago.  

I will counter with I believe the classy logical people began arguing in an attempt to see a change and inadvertently became that which they feared most, Morans. 

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4/5/2025 11:26pm
JWACK wrote:
.. Unfortunately this thread is a good representation of society today and Vital is not immune.  This once fantastic forum has been suffering from this for a...

.. 

Unfortunately this thread is a good representation of society today and Vital is not immune.  
This once fantastic forum has been suffering from this for a while now.  It is becoming more and more of a dumping ground for unnecessary keyboard warrior egos. 

On topic, I have no idea what’s going on with Jason but as a human I hope he gets through whatever is going on as best as possible.   Life happens and sometimes it’s bigger than motorcycle racing or any other career for that matter.   
 

JB 19 wrote:
I think online posting by classy logical people is winding down because of fear of being associated with the illogical mob that takes over everything.  And...

I think online posting by classy logical people is winding down because of fear of being associated with the illogical mob that takes over everything.  And then the illogical mob feels even more empowered as they tell themselves how stupid everyone else is.  

It's literally taking over everything online and this place is a microcosm. The internet probably peaked about 10 years ago.  

Idk substack is pretty good

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4/7/2025 4:03am
DonM wrote:
This place used to have many insiders posting here but most have been run off by the entitled trolls, now we just have a scattered few...

This place used to have many insiders posting here but most have been run off by the entitled trolls, now we just have a scattered few and they get piled on when they post like Savatgy's dad and Forkner's dad....hell this place even ran off Trey Canards mom.....

WhiteTaco wrote:
Like all the Branch Covidians that ran Ping off because he was talking about that he was experiencing on the ground....no way an actual first responder...

Like all the Branch Covidians that ran Ping off because he was talking about that he was experiencing on the ground....no way an actual first responder could know more about what was going on than Rachel Madow.  😂

Herr Lich wrote:

Ah, the renowned epidemiologist David Pingree. 

And worth noting, Ping was right about what he was saying.  There is a time for insults, and sometimes you have some good/funny ones, but insulting someone for being correct, not so much.

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4/7/2025 4:36am

#4 test rode #21 bike over last break. 
#21 was not happy being under the impression he had a new contract to sign. 

#21 spending some personal time with family in Italy. 

Italy is home of Ducati. 

Welcome to the Rabbit Hole. Smile

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4/7/2025 4:45am

Sounds like kawi management should be in a contract year as well. That team has taken riders at the height of their career and then driven them straight into the ground.  Has anyone that has left that team been upset over it?

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4/7/2025 5:33am
Sounds like kawi management should be in a contract year as well. That team has taken riders at the height of their career and then driven...

Sounds like kawi management should be in a contract year as well. That team has taken riders at the height of their career and then driven them straight into the ground.  Has anyone that has left that team been upset over it?

RC, Stew, Villo, Tomac…

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4/7/2025 5:36am

Kawasaki changed upper management in the US not long ago.  They went from being really good to really bad in a lot of ways. Lots of pissed off people right now, JA might be one of them.

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4/7/2025 5:39am

Things rarely end good….thats why they end…..

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