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The fact that they have more camera angles accessible to them than the fans do, and they still don’t talk about the racing that’s happening is insane, honestly, i’m starting to not get surprised by the broadcast mistakes, i know that when leigh and ricky are on, we will just be along for the ride.
Pathetic.
For the first time, I actually watched the whole race on mute (450 race 2). It's amazing how much more you get from not having Dumb and Dumber blathering over the top. It also made me appreciate even more how little RC analyses the race. There are so many intricacies in how each rider is riding in terms of technique, dealing with the rhythms etc, but you hear none of it from those two halfwits. I actually think Diffey is the worse of the two because he prattles on like a woman about irrelevant bullshit - just like Will. The higher ups at NBC obviously believe providing an endless diet of 'backstory' about the riders will engage the casual fan. That's shite. What will engage them is the racing itself and sophisticated analysis of the race. Paging the commentary GOAT Paul Malin...or James...or even GL.
Whatever RC.
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Exactly, the relevant comparison isn't with the past, it's with other motor sports. I'm sick of these arsewipes making the sport look bad due to their obsessions with backstories about fish and other irrelevant shite. And then getting two single brain cell idiots to call the race. FFS.
New and Improved NBC Memo:
Pre and mid week shows to cover the riders personal life.
Race day and Post Race show covers the race and the bikes, track and pit conditions.
It’s really that simple
Two laps after Braxton dennick is in frame they finally decided to get excited about it. Diff is afraid to interrupt RCs bloviating.
RC analysis of Daxton going off the track and potentially getting docked was diabolical.. like seriously bud, wtf do you expect him to do there
I may be biased because I like fishing. I’ll start by saying I hate the sidebars when there’s battles going on, but the fishing feature wasn’t “pathetic” or “unprofessional”. I think it relates to the average Joe who doesn’t watch every supercross race and Malc, and the sport as a result, may gain a fan or follower for that.
It really is that simple.
Christ, by the time they get their sidebar and split screen up there, my 65" tv is too small. ENOUGH OF THE SPLITSCREEN!
And weird sex party guest Leigh Dooshy needs to know that the State of Wyoming, and Wyoming, MN, are two different places.
Name me one other racing series that does this. I'll wait. I finally had enough last night and muted the tv for the whole damn race as well.
Yeah let's do a puff piece right in the middle of a 12 minute race for gods sake.
I like the commercials they put in the middle of the race now too. 🤦🏼♂️
I have to say the broadcast has been improved a little this year but last night was a step back to their old dumb ways. Cutting away from battles to watch a rider by themselves. Split screen to show someone talking in an interview. The fish pictures.. it was like they predetermined that if Volhand gets near the front that THEY WILL talk about the hand brake regardless of the battles going on and they did.
I will agree with you that it helps the non moto person find the riders relatable but, it would make more sense if they show this at the beginning before a race and then the person would say “oh I will stick around to watch to see how that fisherman does”. Otherwise if someone is already watching the race, you already have their attention. No need to ruin the race for the real dedicated fans.
Even the handful of "non moto" people being forced to watch by their boyfriends find the broadcast terrible.
That’s all most of us are saying, do all the behind the scenes fan boy segments before or between the races, there’s a ton of down time between races to fit in all this bull shit, but they insist on doing it this way.
They have production meetings and decide which puff pieces to bring in, when to talk about them etc and they all think during the race is the way to go.
Nothing will change until the lead for the production changes.
Fuck, its innerestin the fight of the Mayans, we get when its a learning lesson and nobody learns or knows how to spell lesson.
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It’s pretty bad with all the battle boxes and points up dated every two mins. One thing I will never understand is How they want to hear Will Christian’s voice for 10 mins rambling on about nothing at all ….Over Blair’s voice giving us good insight!!!!!! I could careless about the Blair vs RC thing but damn man when they say “let’s see what Will has to say “ I just want to mute my tv ! Ha ha ha Weedge and JS7 …Emig and Ralph …somebody save me !
Crazy thing is it has been this way for years and years and years. SX and MX. All theses dammed 'narratives'. It is truly terrible.
I half thought I fucking time traveled back and was watching an episode of American Sportsman with Curt Gowdy, what the hell....
Pathetic, another post about the commentary/broadcast. Haven't we learned that it's not going to change? This has been going on for years; and no, DB will never be in the booth despite what Vital thinks.
I'm not here to jam anybody or call out the evil capitalists, but I fully agree with the one word title,
We have a dramatic sport here that this production company takes and makes it almost impossible to watch.
It is cool seeing some of the riders personality on the broadcast but I agree it should be on race day live more. I don’t listen to much to the broadcasters honestly.the interewebs definitely worry a little to much about it.
That’s why I pay for the MXGP package at a much higher price!! Paul malin does the race by himself and it’s the way our sport should be coveted period!! From the cameras to the commentating it’s flawless compared to our storyline babbling bs IMO!! After watching a full weekend of their actual race coverage it makes it damn hard to make it threw a night of supercrosss or our nationals as well!!
Thank you, this production is an absolute crock of shit and a joke to our sport. I would love for some new kid with fresh ideas run the show. The whole thing is so played out and stale. I would ask anyone in this forum what they do well? Sound is off, mics are off at times, reviews at wrong times, trying to paint pictures during qualy and racing. It will be a great day when Bondo is fired. Same thing literally since 2000
Perhaps, it is because people care about this sport and the tv production is how eyeballs are placed on it. Bondo sucks, plain and simple and has for a long long time. Each time someone poses a question for the production team it is met with BS and a snooty attitude. If you don't like the complaining don't click, if your happy you have nothing to fix. But for a lot of us, this is a childs production, ran by a bunch of buddies who suck at what they do
The fundamental problem with the commentary is that it's boring... The narratives are predictable and boring. I disagree somewhat that they shouldn't be there at all. Ultimately the personailities and various trials and tribulations people go through are half the sport, a story told to the audience. It's the qaulity of them that's the problem.
Imagine if you had 20 machines/robots listed from 1 - 20, utterly unemotional but more of less identical to each other, and able to ride a bike to the same degree as their real-life chosen human counterpart etc. It'd be as dull as dishwater because it's the human element and psychology that compliments the technical display of riding a motocross bike at the top level.
The commentators (especially the technical analyst) simply MUST form interesting narratives, and they also need to take little risks.
Paul Malin, David Bailey, James Stewart, even Weege, Langston and Emig at times etc are/were able to convey interesting narratives. When James says at the midway point "Imo if Jordan can maintain this gap for the next 3 laps he'll win the race." it's interesting.
It's interesting when Paul says to Jason Thomas "Yeah you can just sense now Herlings beginning to pick it up a bit, Tim this past half lap starting to check over his shoulder here and there, crowd starting to get into it again now...". It's predictive, the commentator is taking a little risk, he's picking up on the finer details you at home might've missed. And most importantly he's building the tension. It's storytelling.
At the moment it's reactive and largely devoid of technical observation, and there's almost no complelling narratives. As above the first 250 main Vialle caught up to and was right on Hampshire only for it to be ignored by the booth until the last half lap... It was almost unbelievable.
Diff and mini me were really flat today. Maybe it's just the triple crown format or maybe they know they're not very popular.
RC is the worst analyst I’ve ever seen. No question. He’s amazing on Title 24. When he is not on the spot and calling things as they happen. More of a scripted show with tons of leeway for him to talk about his personal experiences and whatnot. That’s his bread and butter. I could listen to his last one with Reed daily for years. He also wasn’t bad when he was on the track like JT is now. But the booth just isn’t it.
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