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Meanwhile seems like bike jump parks are popping up all over there. I follow Steve Cabalero and he’s always hitting cool stuff.
Yes Gerhard Ward is great.
We also live in the epitome of freedom, we can go home, start our dirtbike and wheelie down the road with no cop involvement.
We can spit on the sidewak too.
Castaic- Nothing. The water tank is still there with a big handlebar company sticker still on it and some of that area was used for Race Around the Lake which was a lot of fun, but it’s back to flat ground again. Not sure RATL will ever be back, so the area just gets used for mud runs and bike races every so often.
I'm originally from IL & my brother & most my friends still race & ride in Illinois. I can say with 100% certainty that moto is doing better in California than Illinois.
**This is not a knock on Illinois at all. I'm just stating that riding is much better here. Riding more specifically. Every single day there is a track or multiple tracks open in CA to ride
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I agree 1000% would be nice e to see an organization like the AMA for dirt bikes and dirt bikes only
A lot of the TX tracks are built on land not suitable for development - flood plains - power line easements etc… prob why they have lasted the test of time…
Total lie Lincoln Trail gets more race entries than all of California races combines
Really? I’d think mammoth gets quite a few but maybe I’m wrong & LTM gets more. Kind of a shitty way to come at this too because I can guarantee an NGPC gets more entries. Most people out here ride moto & race off road. Also should we talk about how LTM runs 2nd motos 3 lap motos at a 1:50 lap time at these record breaking attendance races??????
I was more referring to the “moto scene” as a whole, the total number of people who ride dirt bikes in a given week. Cali as a whole trumps Lincoln trail bad bad.
How many days was Lincoln Trail open in the last month? GH was open 16-17x. Pala 20x.
Bought a lift ticket recently? $250 a day per skier. That buys a lot of lawyers.
99,2000 winter I skied 48 consecutive days a few times I did day & night skiing with the same ski pass. East side of Green Bay 3 bucks for rope tow hill pass ticket. 5 minute drive to the hill. Speaking of hills most of these ski hills r closed. I know of 1 that’s for sale the ski lift needs expensive repairs so you,d get it cheap. Others could be forsale. Start the only ski hill Mx race series in the world.
No they afford insurance by charging $200 a head. 42 Resorts is greed.
I'm basing my statement on the fact that this whole thread is about the death of the moto scene in socal.
yeah it's not dead lol.
seems like it is not good as they hayday 15 years ago but it does not seem like anywhere is. My dad, brother, friends & myself all agree Illinois is in the same boat. not as many races, not as many tracks & not as many racers as 2007-2008.
i'm pretty certain i know who you are & you were def racing Illinois D 17 in 2007-2008, same with Noones. The kid ripped but you guys think the current state of tracks, amount of riders & races to attend is better than 2007-2008?
Yeah LTM is great they're doing awesome but how about south fork, crossroads? Southern Illinois used to have 3 tracks race all the time with great turnouts now it's down to LTM. Not sure if SF is trying to make a comeback but that would be cool to see.
Probably true. one of the more popular tracks here and most people seem to like it. It was in the running to host a southeast national a few years back. Monster Mountain in Alabama (45 minutes from me) about 3 weeks ago we went and there might have been 25 bikes total there. Granted it was the beginning of Mini o's but i have been on similar days with similar turnouts. It's $30 a day here and the weather is almost always rideable!
Hook line and sinker, every time. Just another bullshit video put out there for views. A track shut down, it's a hot topic, so now "it's dead". Like many said, go to a track out here (even during the week) and you'll get your actual answer on if the scene is dead.
The video was referencing track closures........
Yes and the title is “SoCal moto scene is dead”. When in fact it’s not. I was at Pala today with atleast 100+ other riders. Reminder, today is Friday.
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Socal and Glen Helen will always be the epicenter of MX…. Jody says so….
Its is a primarily empty business park.
Ah. Such a shame. Can you still see the outline of some of the track or no?
Saddleback land is still vacant and from what I’m told the houses haven’t moved any closer from when it shutdown. Carlsbad as mentioned above is partially covered by a business park with mostly empty suites.
It is not dead, but compared to 10 to 20 years ago, it is not as vibrant.
And the race scene is not what it once was.
I find it interesting that dirt bike riders can chat for hours about the pros and cons of certain tires, bars, riding gear, two stroke/four stroke, gas/electric and racing history but have so little interest to secure riding areas. This is an existential threat to our sport. This will kill our sport. And no magazine, podcaster, race organization, manufacturers, riding organization, riding group does much of shit about it. For the cost of one Sexton/Lawrence/Tomac any of those manufacturers could sponsor many riding parks or back legislation to secure riding areas. Any of these podcasters could use their forum as a weekly reminder to ask riders to get involved. The AMA, well it's the AMA and with them involved dirt bike riding will go the way of American road racing and AFT, what a flaccid bunch of bottom feeders. Ultimately it is down to us, I tried for a while, it was one of the most frustrating and humbling experiences in my life.
I thought it was odd how he basically brushed over Cahuilla MX, as "some track in Anza". Sure I speak for a lot of people, that Cahuilla is one of SoCal moto's favorite spots. Just my gripe, otherwise a decent video.
Just got home from Perris on a Saturday - 200 plus riders they said, not including the Stacyc "wacky Racers" kids, who have their own track.
Southern CA still has a MASSIVE track attendance, you can ride every day of the week here if you want - In addition, most facilities have a main, vet and kid's track on site, some like Fox have a mini track and AMA pro SX track as as well.
Glen Helen - open Tue, Thur. Sat, Sun - 5 tracks on property
Perris Raceway - 3 tracks on site - Sat Sun, Tuesday (minis) Wed nite all tracks.
Cahuilla Creek Motocross - Sat, Sun, Wed - 3 tracks on site, off-road loop.
Fox Raceway - Fri, Sat. Sun, Mon, Tues. - National Track, Vet track, Kids Track, Mini Track, AMA supercross track for Pros only.
Barona Raceway - Sat Sun (seasonal)
It sure does suck that we lost Elsinore Motocross and LACR in the span of one month, as now it is more crowded on weekends at the other tracks. Elsinore especially was a large facility.
The whole point to my post is that motocross in this state is huge, and the Industry, manufacturers and the AMA need to stop fucking around and work together to keep tracks open. Maybe a track ownership group would be stronger than these tracks going it alone?
You nailed it... moto is down everywhere compared to years past, not just one state.
The Canadian nationals are a shell of what they used to be.
Looked through fall classic at mammoth series and a RTM race not much more than 12- 15 per class.
Remember 34 and40 million in California 6 mil or less here.
LTM is open daily weather permitting.
I just think no matter what moto is dead.
Ktm feeling it now.
I don’t think economy will fix it either, it’s a generational and cost thing.
See Spoonguy gets it.
Cahuilla is a favorite of mine also.
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