Haiden Deegan Out of MXoN Selection Process

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Tumic wrote:
the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.If either Hymas or Kitchen had acted the way Danger boy has done the last two years, and then...

the nail that sticks out gets hammered down.


If either Hymas or Kitchen had acted the way Danger boy has done the last two years, and then add the whole star racing mess and Brian at lorettas you can bet your ass that any rider with the same track record would get the same treatment.

But no other rider or team act like they do so people have nothing to react to. 

Herr Lich wrote:
That's right.  It baffles people the Deegan arse lickers can't seem to see the animosity Deegan receives comes from his own actions - and is well...

That's right.  It baffles people the Deegan arse lickers can't seem to see the animosity Deegan receives comes from his own actions - and is well deserved.  Calling people haters is the first move for people with no arguments to use. We could list several actions Deegan and the Deegans have done that are dubious, low class, and more.  Is that hate?  Contrast that with Hymas or Kitchen.  They keep there heads down and don't act like idiots in order to get some cheap clicks.  Brian Deegan's strategy is so unbelievably unsophisticated and is the same as it's always been.  Be the 'bad guy'.  Well, if that's the case be prepared to take the heat. 

Kyzer138 wrote:
Has you talking though doesn’t it? I’m a fan of Chance, Levi, Haiden, and many more, so feel free to call me what you want because...

Has you talking though doesn’t it? I’m a fan of Chance, Levi, Haiden, and many more, so feel free to call me what you want because of my comment. Unfortunately for everyone that talks shit (like Haiden does) he is laughing all the way to the bank…it’s the truth that probably 80% of this forum hates the Deegans yet it’s all you talk about… 


Go team USA. How bout that?

You are replying to the king and queen of the anti-crowd....all they do is talk shit on Deegans and anything American.....Yes go team USA! I think this team will do well!

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8/29/2024 3:02pm Edited Date/Time 8/30/2024 5:39am
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People are mad because of the hypocrisy and its likely they have been pandered to. Deegan is in a unique position because has consistently chosen to...

People are mad because of the hypocrisy and its likely they have been pandered to. Deegan is in a unique position because has consistently chosen to portray himself as the American rider. He alone made that choice.

The wrist is certainly suspicious. Hardware removal is minor, the timing doesn't make sense and the topic a convenient excuse to use for someone who does not want to go. Its public relations suicide to admit you don't want to go so a cover is needed for any rider in that position.

Pandering is one thing in itself. But America is very unique in that patriotism is taken very very seriously in every facet. Its not about the motorcycles and you can't write it off because "it doesn't affect ones day". 

971_Fan wrote:
Where is the hypocrisy in holding up an American flag on the podium and declining the MXoN to have a medical procedure done to be ready...

Where is the hypocrisy in holding up an American flag on the podium and declining the MXoN to have a medical procedure done to be ready for the 2025 season? It seems to me that having his pins taken out in time to prepare fir the 2025 season is exculpatory in regards to his oobligations to attend the MXoN. 

Your suspicions are one thing, but to then turn around and come to a conclusion based on those assumptions is another.  Deegan is almost certainly seeing a specialist, and unless you are privy to the extent of his injury, trained in what is the best course of action for that injury, and all the other variables, then you are drawing conclusions that are, to use your own word, suspicious.  

 

Herr Lich wrote:

Go back to you basement mate.  Brian will be down to give you some loving soon.  Don't worry. 

You are drinking late there in AU Holmes - 12 replies from you on this very one page.  Time to turn down the bed and step away from the keys Vitalbro   😋

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Just woke up, how's Don's keyboard holding up?

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This guy has 750+ posts in less than 2 months. He's obviously a troll. Look at his post history. It is completely littered with comments in Deegan...

This guy has 750+ posts in less than 2 months. He's obviously a troll. 

Look at his post history. It is completely littered with comments in Deegan threads. Some weird Deegan fetish (especially when it comes to Brian)?

16 posts a day on VitalMX. Get OUT of your basement mate 😂 

Herr Lich wrote:

Calm down mate.  Pointing out Brian's bullshit is fun. If you feel it's not fair to your boyfriend you can tell him during your next date. 

Damn

You just made his point. 

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Just woke up, how's Don's keyboard holding up?

You may want to check your girlfrind Herr Dipshits keyboard....Go Team USA!!!

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wrc777 wrote:

Chase also said he had been on the KTM for a week before MXDN.

Tumic wrote:
Yeah and he had been on a Honda for years that he was given the option to ride if he wanted to.Just think it’s a bit...

Yeah and he had been on a Honda for years that he was given the option to ride if he wanted to.
Just think it’s a bit harsh of him to speak about that since he turned it down last year with multiple options.

But at the same time it’s good that some of the riders put their foot down regarding this circus. First Tomac backing away and then Chase speaking out some what about the mess.


 

It wouldn’t be a good look for his new team if he ran a race on the old bike after switching teams. I think he was really over that Honda too. You could tell that from a couple of the comments he made on pulp this week. 

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Next year HD should recite the Pledge of Allegiance at every podium or bring a flag up top and kneel in front of it 

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971_Fan wrote:
Where is the hypocrisy in holding up an American flag on the podium and declining the MXoN to have a medical procedure done to be ready...

Where is the hypocrisy in holding up an American flag on the podium and declining the MXoN to have a medical procedure done to be ready for the 2025 season? It seems to me that having his pins taken out in time to prepare fir the 2025 season is exculpatory in regards to his oobligations to attend the MXoN. 

Your suspicions are one thing, but to then turn around and come to a conclusion based on those assumptions is another.  Deegan is almost certainly seeing a specialist, and unless you are privy to the extent of his injury, trained in what is the best course of action for that injury, and all the other variables, then you are drawing conclusions that are, to use your own word, suspicious.  

 

Herr Lich wrote:

Go back to you basement mate.  Brian will be down to give you some loving soon.  Don't worry. 

You are drinking late there in AU Holmes - 12 replies from you on this very one page.  Time to turn down the bed and step...

You are drinking late there in AU Holmes - 12 replies from you on this very one page.  Time to turn down the bed and step away from the keys Vitalbro   😋

Can you get us Dons count so we can have a comparison?? Need to know what side is winning 

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8/29/2024 4:56pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2024 4:58pm
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Can you get us Dons count so we can have a comparison?? Need to know what side is winning 

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A sad reality check for some in this thread 

A sad reality check for some in this thread

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You could change the top character from "Vital" to "America" and it would still work! 😉

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Just woke up, how's Don's keyboard holding up?

DonM wrote:

You may want to check your girlfrind Herr Dipshits keyboard....Go Team USA!!!

Now now no need to get snarky Wink

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Herr Lich wrote:
That's right.  It baffles people the Deegan arse lickers can't seem to see the animosity Deegan receives comes from his own actions - and is well...

That's right.  It baffles people the Deegan arse lickers can't seem to see the animosity Deegan receives comes from his own actions - and is well deserved.  Calling people haters is the first move for people with no arguments to use. We could list several actions Deegan and the Deegans have done that are dubious, low class, and more.  Is that hate?  Contrast that with Hymas or Kitchen.  They keep there heads down and don't act like idiots in order to get some cheap clicks.  Brian Deegan's strategy is so unbelievably unsophisticated and is the same as it's always been.  Be the 'bad guy'.  Well, if that's the case be prepared to take the heat. 

Damn impressive post

Nailed it 


 


 

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Spoonguy wrote:
The point is if somebody doesn't behave exactly as we wish or the way we think they should, in today's world they are shit.Nobody bothers to...

The point is if somebody doesn't behave exactly as we wish or the way we think they should, in today's world they are shit.Nobody bothers to enter a fraction of looking at anothers perspective, point of view, or direction. Deegan is a kid with a long bright future ahead of him if he stays healthy, healthy is the key word. To condemn him for not being a patriotic altruistic for a motorcycle race smacks of pettiness and posturing. As those that wrap themselves in the flag condemning him for not going to a bike race, should perhaps look inward to see if they are as patriotic as they can be, rather than curse this teenager needing surgery.

That's a weird way of saying that nobody here is trying to "cancel" Deegan. Deegan has the freedom to say and do as he pleases and...

That's a weird way of saying that nobody here is trying to "cancel" Deegan. Deegan has the freedom to say and do as he pleases and we all have the freedom to bash him for being a hypocrite who only uses patriotism as a marketing tool and uses nonsensical excuses to back out when it's time to actually represent his country. This makes 2 years in a row that he's refused to represent Team USA  

Having wrist pins removed is a very minor procedure that does not take long to heal from. My brother had it done and was back riding in 2 weeks. It's clearly not affecting his riding and the surgery is a BS excuse he's using because he doesn't want to get beat overseas. Chance has agreed to go with a torn knee, so I have zero respect for Deegan's decision 

DonM wrote:
Thanks for your prognosis doc.....This has way more to do with Star and team USA's lack of ability to raise the necessary funds to cover 100%...

Thanks for your prognosis doc.....This has way more to do with Star and team USA's lack of ability to raise the necessary funds to cover 100% of the costs...you all can be as angry as you want at Deegan and Star but the true anger should be at those responsible for the utter failure that is raising funds for Team USA.....don't forget to buy your candy bar to help next year.... 

Well last year when Deegan didn't go Bobby Regan himself said it wasn't about the money.  I find it hard to believe if Tomac was selected that the would refuse to go.

I don't disagree with you about trying to find a better way to finance the MXoN effort.  However when you try to take as objective a look as possible at last year, this year and all the circumstances, the explanation that best fits everything we know is that Deegan doesn't want to race MXoN unless he thinks he is on a winning team; in this case believing that Tomac was the best choice for the other 450 spot.  I don't doubt the medical issue and given the circumstances I can understand foregoing MXoN but it's been known about for a long time, certainly well before MXoN considerations.  Deegan really should have excused himself from selection on that basis and everyone would be much happier.

Now that is clearly his prerogative, but coming from the guy who is clearly your best 250 rider that stance puts a few key people in an awkward situation.  It's disrespectful to AP (or whichever other 450 rider might be in contention for a spot).  The AMA in their attempt to select the best team would feel pressured to some degree to give Eli an overly generous opportunity to prove himself.  Eli certainly might feel that if he was selected it was largely due to ensuring that Deegan would also go.

All in all though it appears from the outside as a shit show.

 

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I am not disappointed he's not going.  I am disappointed he and his camps lies are not being called out by the media.  Yes he's fast...

I am not disappointed he's not going.  I am disappointed he and his camps lies are not being called out by the media.  Yes he's fast and increases the odds of a US victory, but just like a Kardashian, the Deegan family persona is not who I would select to represent the US.

At the same time, it is also BS that the MXoN is a huge money making event and the money isn't shared more broadly with the participants.  I can't blame a rider in a dangerous sport for not wanting to add another race weekend, for free, to their season.  Props to those that do, like AP.  But also recognize that is also a calculated move to increase their popularity and market value.

I would say Sexton has more to lose than anybody. Perspective is everything.

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Just woke up, how's Don's keyboard holding up?

he's on his third one...

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What a fucking shit show, he should be banned for next year ! Captain america my as...This deegan family has no value exept marketing and money...

What a fucking shit show, he should be banned for next year ! Captain america my as...

This deegan family has no value exept marketing and money, don't be a fool the american pride is only a way to make money for them, it's all a facade ! Let's face it.

Hope USA win with Hymas making fun of him

Same as every professional sport in the world it’s always about the Benjamin’s why is that a shock to anyone really!!

8/29/2024 9:06pm

Pro boxing tactic avoid the best competitors.  Focus on making the big easy money. Not racing to get a couple tiny pins removed to pro long a career. Part right but De Wolf is next  level rider, a lot faster than anyone here. And there’s more almost as fast .  I understand he just won the national championship and the team wants to keep him up.  But it was the easiest championship ever won here maybe.  A  3-3 could derail the train.  

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DonM wrote:
You are replying to the king and queen of the anti-crowd....all they do is talk shit on Deegans and anything American.....Yes go team USA! I think...

You are replying to the king and queen of the anti-crowd....all they do is talk shit on Deegans and anything American.....Yes go team USA! I think this team will do well!

Bitch please, this week im even more pro-american than the Deegans.. 

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Keep that damage control coming Deegz. I mean, his mechanic said it so it must be true. And pics like this and the one Haiden put up waving the flag don't hhelp. Just rreminds us how fake you are. Oh man he's waving the flag on the gram! Fuck outa here 

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Herr Lich wrote:
Clearly the MXDN is not a priortity for the Deegans, or for Star. Winning titles is the priority. Representing the USA is not. That is, they are...

Clearly the MXDN is not a priortity for the Deegans, or for Star. 

Winning titles is the priority. 

Representing the USA is not. 

That is, they are putting their careers and money above the honour of representing their country. 

Therefore, they should stop waving the flag every chance they get and STFU. 

DunnySeat wrote:
Patriotism has nothing to do with not wanting to spend tens of thousands of dollars and risking an injury for a race that counts for nothing. Deegan...

Patriotism has nothing to do with not wanting to spend tens of thousands of dollars and risking an injury for a race that counts for nothing. 

Deegan and Star get paid by Yamaha and Monster to win races and titles in America.  A one off race does for bragging rights is not a good return on investment. 
 

I don’t get why people are so hung up on this race. Y’all act like people are burning the American flag because they don’t want to go. 

"the MXDN is a race that counts for nothing"

In a long thread full of comments, you're currently in the lead for the dumbest one. Congrats.

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8/30/2024 5:02am Edited Date/Time 8/30/2024 5:04am

Deegan on the podium next year 

“it’s all about the he says/she says bullshit”

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Keep that damage control coming Deegz. I mean, his mechanic said it so it must be true. And pics like this and the one Haiden put...

Keep that damage control coming Deegz. I mean, his mechanic said it so it must be true. And pics like this and the one Haiden put up waving the flag don't hhelp. Just rreminds us how fake you are. Oh man he's waving the flag on the gram! Fuck outa here 

LOL


So true. 

That flag waving picture is a farse. Time has proven the flag is merely a prop. Daddy brought it to the podium and handed it to Haiden. Used entirely to stir shit against the Lawrence’s on the podium.  Who coincidentally are Red Bull athletes…


How many years in a row can you skip representing your country for us to figure out you don’t care…..? Anybody can be “Patriotic” when it takes zero effort and fits your agenda…to stir shit / be the 100 pound “Bad Boy”..


BUT I’d bet next year in America (Iron Man or Glen Helen) things will be 100% different. Now it’s much easier. The Deegans will have ten cameras following them around, three assistants posting every five minutes to social media, with Monster Energy’s social media sharing and paying to promote every second of it. 

 


 

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Herr Lich wrote:
Clearly the MXDN is not a priortity for the Deegans, or for Star. Winning titles is the priority. Representing the USA is not. That is, they are...

Clearly the MXDN is not a priortity for the Deegans, or for Star. 

Winning titles is the priority. 

Representing the USA is not. 

That is, they are putting their careers and money above the honour of representing their country. 

Therefore, they should stop waving the flag every chance they get and STFU. 

DunnySeat wrote:
Patriotism has nothing to do with not wanting to spend tens of thousands of dollars and risking an injury for a race that counts for nothing. Deegan...

Patriotism has nothing to do with not wanting to spend tens of thousands of dollars and risking an injury for a race that counts for nothing. 

Deegan and Star get paid by Yamaha and Monster to win races and titles in America.  A one off race does for bragging rights is not a good return on investment. 
 

I don’t get why people are so hung up on this race. Y’all act like people are burning the American flag because they don’t want to go. 

"the MXDN is a race that counts for nothing"

In a long thread full of comments, you're currently in the lead for the dumbest one. Congrats.

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Keep that damage control coming Deegz. I mean, his mechanic said it so it must be true. And pics like this and the one Haiden put...

Keep that damage control coming Deegz. I mean, his mechanic said it so it must be true. And pics like this and the one Haiden put up waving the flag don't hhelp. Just rreminds us how fake you are. Oh man he's waving the flag on the gram! Fuck outa here 

Paul333 wrote:
LOLSo true. That flag waving picture is a farse. Time has proven the flag is merely a prop. Daddy brought it to the podium and handed it...

LOL


So true. 

That flag waving picture is a farse. Time has proven the flag is merely a prop. Daddy brought it to the podium and handed it to Haiden. Used entirely to stir shit against the Lawrence’s on the podium.  Who coincidentally are Red Bull athletes…


How many years in a row can you skip representing your country for us to figure out you don’t care…..? Anybody can be “Patriotic” when it takes zero effort and fits your agenda…to stir shit / be the 100 pound “Bad Boy”..


BUT I’d bet next year in America (Iron Man or Glen Helen) things will be 100% different. Now it’s much easier. The Deegans will have ten cameras following them around, three assistants posting every five minutes to social media, with Monster Energy’s social media sharing and paying to promote every second of it. 

 


 

No chance it goes to Glen Helen.

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Keep that damage control coming Deegz. I mean, his mechanic said it so it must be true. And pics like this and the one Haiden put...

Keep that damage control coming Deegz. I mean, his mechanic said it so it must be true. And pics like this and the one Haiden put up waving the flag don't hhelp. Just rreminds us how fake you are. Oh man he's waving the flag on the gram! Fuck outa here 

Are you talking about me being fake? Or the Deegans? Duffe made this post, not me, or the Deegans. They all realize this surgery is better for his long term health. And their goal is to win supercross after smx, not a race where you lose money and get shit on if you don’t go or win. He will have many more opportunities the next few years.

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DunnySeat wrote:
Patriotism has nothing to do with not wanting to spend tens of thousands of dollars and risking an injury for a race that counts for nothing. Deegan...

Patriotism has nothing to do with not wanting to spend tens of thousands of dollars and risking an injury for a race that counts for nothing. 

Deegan and Star get paid by Yamaha and Monster to win races and titles in America.  A one off race does for bragging rights is not a good return on investment. 
 

I don’t get why people are so hung up on this race. Y’all act like people are burning the American flag because they don’t want to go. 

"the MXDN is a race that counts for nothing"

In a long thread full of comments, you're currently in the lead for the dumbest one. Congrats.

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Vital clown show...

Best Holeshot ever...!

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