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Bultaco wrote:

RC was talking out his butt all night. My disinterested wife even commented the same. 

RACING wrote:
I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock.  Oh, BTW...

I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock. 

Oh, BTW, Tomac's bike smoking also was a blown shock -that ended up being an engine oil leak.

If you’re doubting his shock blew, then you are either blind or don’t know much about riding dirt bikes. 

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Motofinne wrote:
I don't think we can say that yet. Lets revisit the topic at round 8 in 2025. With that said. Even if he would be on...

I don't think we can say that yet. Lets revisit the topic at round 8 in 2025.

With that said. Even if he would be on a Honda, or any other brand. I don't think he will ever beat Jett Lawrence to a title straight up.

neysbo wrote:
So up til last night he was closer to first in points than a year ago.  A rock hitting and cracking the throttle is a fluke...

So up til last night he was closer to first in points than a year ago.  A rock hitting and cracking the throttle is a fluke and could happen on any bike. 

Motofinne wrote:

Yeah it hasn't been as bad as people have made it out to be.

Especially when you take into account his hand injury that hampered his results for about 3 races, if I remember correctly. He was cruising around the back of the top 10 one race with his bad hand and before that he was getting better every race. But I guess the argument is the hand injury is on him. I'm not ready to make any declarative statements yet. I'll let Chase do that

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If you ignore RC saying “yelling at his mechanic” and watch and listen then he doesn’t act or sound pissed at the mechanic.  It looks like...

If you ignore RC saying “yelling at his mechanic” and watch and listen then he doesn’t act or sound pissed at the mechanic.  It looks like he was asked a question and points over to the bike and says something.  If you have ever been to a race then you can’t communicate without raising your voice with all the bike noise.  I watched the walk by his mechanic multiple times and I think Chase is hurt and bummed….but if RC doesn’t make that comment and put that thought in your head…. you just see a bummed rider but nothing to indicate yelling at or pissed at his mechanic.

I felt exactly the same way watching the clip. I didn't know what RC was talking about

Bultaco wrote:

RC was talking out his butt all night. My disinterested wife even commented the same. 

When I'm watching the race and I talk to RC like he's in the room, it's not good. I used to do it with Ralph all the time. Not so much with RC, as bad as he is. Last night I was like, "STFU Ricky!" My gf just sits there and laughs at me. Get it all out, she says lol

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When I'm watching the race and I talk to RC like he's in the room, it's not good. I used to do it with Ralph all...

When I'm watching the race and I talk to RC like he's in the room, it's not good. I used to do it with Ralph all the time. Not so much with RC, as bad as he is. Last night I was like, "STFU Ricky!" My gf just sits there and laughs at me. Get it all out, she says lol

The worst part for me was when he tried so hard to question why Deegan try to clean up his riding style instead of giving him credit for trying to do what he can to perfect him self as a rider.

I can’t stand the whole Deegan clown-show but i really like that they try to get rid of his amateur riding style and adapt to the modern way of riding a bike.

 

Bailey or JS would never have sounded that stupid on the broadcast as RC did there..

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4/21/2024 5:47am
Bultaco wrote:

RC was talking out his butt all night. My disinterested wife even commented the same. 

RACING wrote:
I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock.  Oh, BTW...

I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock. 

Oh, BTW, Tomac's bike smoking also was a blown shock -that ended up being an engine oil leak.

If you’re doubting his shock blew, then you are either blind or don’t know much about riding dirt bikes. 

Neither.

Watched in slomo, right, it's the shock.
Still surprised by the amount of smoke and the fact that he went past the third whoop...

 

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4/21/2024 6:12am

If I’m sexton I’m telling ktm to keep my 1-2 million dollar contract and go get on another brand.  

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ando wrote:

I took it to mean the throttle housing on the bars, not the EFI throttle body.

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mtbkris2 wrote:
How would a rock crack the throttle body? I don’t doubt the throttle stuck and I’m sure that it did, but sounds like ktm being shady...

How would a rock crack the throttle body? I don’t doubt the throttle stuck and I’m sure that it did, but sounds like ktm being shady blaming a rock. 

agreed, where did this "cracked throttle body" come from?

ando wrote:

I took it to mean the throttle housing on the bars, not the EFI throttle body.

Ktm had a throttle recall in the early to mid 2010s. I'm sure after that debacle of injuring many riders the lawyers said you can never ever talk about the throttle assembly sticking, so throttle body it is 🤭

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It would take a miracle for a rock to hit the throttle body.  The throttle housing maybe.

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PRM31 wrote:

It would take a miracle for a rock to hit the throttle body.  The throttle housing maybe.

Agreed, they need to post a pic of that for it to be believable.  That's like saying a rock caused Roczen's shock to explode.

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4/21/2024 9:22am

Obviously it takes a while to sort a bike out but he doesn’t look at one with the bike yet. Glad he is banged up and will be ok 

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4/21/2024 9:27am

Wow good thing that rock missed hitting his leg or he may have bled out. Whistling

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4/21/2024 9:38am

Could it simply have been a case of "Whiskey Throttle"? 

The rock story just seems so unlikely. Guys race KTMs in the desert with lots of rocks. Or does Chase have some ultra-lightweight throttle body??? We will never know. I admire Kenny..."shock broke". Not a "rock" broke my shock.

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4/21/2024 9:45am

So Sextons switch to KYB forks wasn't a game changer?

I thought no bike was rideable without sss inserts jammed in?

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It will never happen but Sexton would actually suit the Suzuki, the front would be what he likes and Roczen has proven it's capable. Hope he's all good

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I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. 

Last year with 3 races left sexton was 21 points behind tomac. This year with 3 races left he's 7 points behind him coming off a DNF. And this is evidence of chase having issues, or something?

Unless you're arguing that chase will never get comfortable on the KTM and all hope is already lost, I'm still not really bothered by any of this.

Jett is going to have same impact on other riders and teams that Nick Saban had on SEC football. Everyone self sabotaging trying to be like the once in a lifetime talent instead of just being best version of themselves. 

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The stock KTM throttle housings* are cast and do break, pretty sure the team runs a billet one like Nihilo makes to prevent issues.

Probably never get the truth, we have already seen how protective the team is of their brand/image 

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4/21/2024 12:27pm
RACING wrote:
I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock.  Oh, BTW...

I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock. 

Oh, BTW, Tomac's bike smoking also was a blown shock -that ended up being an engine oil leak.

If you’re doubting his shock blew, then you are either blind or don’t know much about riding dirt bikes. 

RACING wrote:

Neither.

Watched in slomo, right, it's the shock.
Still surprised by the amount of smoke and the fact that he went past the third whoop...

 

Touch a shock body right after someone is done riding, tell us all what you feel.

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4/21/2024 12:30pm Edited Date/Time 4/21/2024 12:33pm
Bultaco wrote:

RC was talking out his butt all night. My disinterested wife even commented the same. 

RACING wrote:
I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock.  Oh, BTW...

I still have a real hard time believing that amount of white smoke coming out of Roczen's RM was caused by a blown shock. 

Oh, BTW, Tomac's bike smoking also was a blown shock -that ended up being an engine oil leak.

I did as well until I saw the video in slow-motion from the side, posted in the Roczen thread. You can see the rear wheel compressing and rebounding several times on its own, clearly only running on the spring.

edit: just saw similar post and that you saw the video.

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4/21/2024 12:42pm

Chase could probably have been leading the points before last night if he didnt have that hand injury. How many points did he lose in those few rounds?


I feel like he had been doing pretty well on his new bike all things considered. Doesn't look as fast as he did on the Honda. But he had been incredibly consistent aside from those rounds he was riding injured.

Being closer in points than the same point of last year despite that hand injury. With a more stacked field. The crash has ruined his season. But before that he was having a solid season IMO.

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4/21/2024 12:56pm

Anybody thought with a tiny bit more juice he could have turned that into a double? Originally that's what I thought he was doing ha.

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truck wrote:
I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. ...

I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. 

Last year with 3 races left sexton was 21 points behind tomac. This year with 3 races left he's 7 points behind him coming off a DNF. And this is evidence of chase having issues, or something?

Unless you're arguing that chase will never get comfortable on the KTM and all hope is already lost, I'm still not really bothered by any of this.

Jett is going to have same impact on other riders and teams that Nick Saban had on SEC football. Everyone self sabotaging trying to be like the once in a lifetime talent instead of just being best version of themselves. 

Im sorry but i think this is a bit crazy. These guys have grown up racing since they were kids no way it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. It’s a dirt bike not an F1 car sorry. A lot of these guys struggling need to look in the mirror at them selves 

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Chase is so resilient, I swear. How many season ending getoffs has he had? He just bounces back.

 

I can't wait to see if he can get the speed up on thr KTM now that he seems more stable.

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4/21/2024 3:39pm

DV called a stuck throttle as soon as he saw it happen

That was yelled in our house too. Carbon fiber incoming if it was damaged by roost etc. 

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4/21/2024 3:55pm Edited Date/Time 4/21/2024 3:56pm
truck wrote:
I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. ...

I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. 

Last year with 3 races left sexton was 21 points behind tomac. This year with 3 races left he's 7 points behind him coming off a DNF. And this is evidence of chase having issues, or something?

Unless you're arguing that chase will never get comfortable on the KTM and all hope is already lost, I'm still not really bothered by any of this.

Jett is going to have same impact on other riders and teams that Nick Saban had on SEC football. Everyone self sabotaging trying to be like the once in a lifetime talent instead of just being best version of themselves. 

Did you forget about Barcia giving everybody birthday presents when he sent Jett to the shadow realm?

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truck wrote:
I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. ...

I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. 

Last year with 3 races left sexton was 21 points behind tomac. This year with 3 races left he's 7 points behind him coming off a DNF. And this is evidence of chase having issues, or something?

Unless you're arguing that chase will never get comfortable on the KTM and all hope is already lost, I'm still not really bothered by any of this.

Jett is going to have same impact on other riders and teams that Nick Saban had on SEC football. Everyone self sabotaging trying to be like the once in a lifetime talent instead of just being best version of themselves. 

Did you forget about Barcia giving everybody birthday presents when he sent Jett to the shadow realm?

No, it just doesn't have anything to do with anything I said. 

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truck wrote:
I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. ...

I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. 

Last year with 3 races left sexton was 21 points behind tomac. This year with 3 races left he's 7 points behind him coming off a DNF. And this is evidence of chase having issues, or something?

Unless you're arguing that chase will never get comfortable on the KTM and all hope is already lost, I'm still not really bothered by any of this.

Jett is going to have same impact on other riders and teams that Nick Saban had on SEC football. Everyone self sabotaging trying to be like the once in a lifetime talent instead of just being best version of themselves. 

Pretty sure Webb is on a new bike. So is AP, I believe.

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RC is the goat...for now bcause Jett is comingCool but I hope he stays in the booth, I love his commentary. as for sexton, He's a champion but will have to hope for some help against Donuts

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truck wrote:
I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. ...

I think it was last week Brayton said on race day live he feels like it takes 8-10 months to get used to a new bike. 

Last year with 3 races left sexton was 21 points behind tomac. This year with 3 races left he's 7 points behind him coming off a DNF. And this is evidence of chase having issues, or something?

Unless you're arguing that chase will never get comfortable on the KTM and all hope is already lost, I'm still not really bothered by any of this.

Jett is going to have same impact on other riders and teams that Nick Saban had on SEC football. Everyone self sabotaging trying to be like the once in a lifetime talent instead of just being best version of themselves. 

Spoonguy wrote:

Pretty sure Webb is on a new bike. So is AP, I believe.

When did webb start riding that bike? July? SMX and 5 months in at Paris he looked like garbage on it. 7-8 months in he looked like a different guy on it. Almost seems to support Brayton's theory.

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