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I wholeheartedly agree with that. Having a son in the sport for 20+ years I have lost count of the amount of heavy duty pain meds (even as a 7-8 year old) doctors have pushed in our direction. I thank God every day that my son HATES them all and never wanted to take them.
Stroupe is doing good. . . .
I will tell u fellas this much. I happened to end up in Orleans Parish Prison at the end of a Mardi Gras, bad deal... great story but..anyways, I was put in a cell with 3 other dudes. One was in there for pissin in publis, the other 2 were druggies....both were waiting for druggie #1 to pass a balloon of heroin that he swallowed. In the cell 2 down, tattoo shop was open and doing bizness.
Some hours pass by and here comes a lock down...everyone in cells...
Pod door opens...2 packs of rolling tobacco and papers, and half Oz of weed came in the pod..thrown in. Couple cell door locks were jammed, and the runners came and got it.
The Big Easy......don't think that shit ain't true.
Also.... I have had my and others share of broken bones....tons of opiates...
Thank God I didn't have the effect it has on others... Addiction. . . .kills
It's just the luck of the genetic draw with the way opiates interact with our receptors. Vicodin makes me feel sick and I hate it, but my buddy has had serious life/work problems from abusing Vicodin. Like if you found someone that thinks cat shit is delicious, it's virtually impossible to relate to it when you naturally feel the exact opposite. I feel bad for people like Izzi that have to fight this really hard fight for the rest of their lives when it comes so easy to others and there's just no rhyme or reason to it.
You can literally get anything you want in prison, if you can or are willing to pay for it. As long as greed is a thing, the problem will perpetuate. And unfortunately, there a few bad eggs that are guards, or they get under an inmates thumb and that’s how a lot of the contraband gets inside.
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My only problem with this is Davi seems to have no problem talking about other people’s personal issues, but hasn’t answered what was in his locker at Kawi that got him fired. I would bet that Davi and Jase spoke about that topic being off limits, beforehand; per usual.
Why is it ok to put someone else’s business on a worldwide stage, but you don’t open up yours? Idk, I just don’t think it’s cool for someone to blast anyone like that; could whatever was in Davi’s locker be more detrimental to an image than OD’ing on fentanyl? I use “image” loosely, but still.
If Davi was an open book, I wouldn’t even take the time to type this comment. I just don’t think it’s right to blast someone else’s personal info and not be open about yourself.
Bring on the hate.
No hate from me, I agree with you. But Davi has mentioned before that he signed a NDA after it happened.
Mmmmm, cat shit.
Good point. I forgot about the NDA discussions; whether they’re real or made up. I have absolutely zero knowledge or either.
Between the Izzi talk and Davi insinuating that Josh Lichtle died from the aftermath of being an addict (which wasn’t even inside knowledge, according to Jase), it just seems like he wants to cast stones at everyone else.
I thought it was fairly well documented at the time that Josh was on a super high dose of Ritalin that wouldn't have helped with the heat stroke
Possibly (and sadly) more then that. A good, well informed reporter (or fan) could dig deep into the wrongful death lawsuit his family filed against RedBud, etc and perhaps find that info, and courtesy of the autopsy that was conducted.
The reason they didn’t talk about it was that whatever legal agreement / payout Davey took contained an NDA - that’s “non disclosure”. Davey got paid out, signed a note saying he promised not to talk about it or disclose anything, and sailed off. Even now he can’t talk about it without a massive risk that Kawi could take him back to court and demand their money back, with damages.
So that’s why Davey can’t - and won’t ever say anything. Although I would love to know as well, I highly doubt he will ever bring it up in public media.
At this point it’s pretty well known what was probably in the locker. Most likely dexamethasone
Yea. It was some sort of booster or whatever, but nothing gnarly or crazy. Kawi wasn’t happy, the results were not there and they used it as a reason to cut bait. Similar to the Emig Havasu deal back ‘99 or whatever…
Maybe one day Big B will talk…😆
The way I interpreted Davi’s comment was there was harsh drugs being used that Davi implied attributed to his death. I don’t want to get on a tangent about something that I know very little about. Jase said himself that he’d never heard that about Josh before.
My point was he seemed to have zero issue with blasting other people’s private information on a huge platform. Otherwise, I enjoyed the interview.
Basically yes. I have worked with a TON of former and current opiate addicts and their pipeline from pills to heroin/fent is almost always the same. Most opiate addicts will start by being given an oxycontin/percs/etc… at a party or with friends. After a few times, they start doing it on their own, then start to feel like they need to do it more and more to feel normal day to day. By this time, they are actively addicted and are spending a ton of money on pills. Usually around this time, they are introduced to heroin and fent, which are cheaper and easier to get than most opiates but still give you the same high. At this point, the addiction is rewiring your brain and changing you into someone who will stop at nothing to get high. You begin to steal, lie, and do whatever is necessary to get access to opiates. Even after getting clean and staying clean, your body and mind will still crave the high from opiates. Relapsing and immediately OD’ing is common because most users go back to the dose they were taking before getting clean and by that time, that same dose is lethal to them.
I’m sorry to hear Nico relapsed and OD’d but I’m glad he’s still alive. I hope he can finally conquer his addiction once and for all.
A few years back, Davi said essentially it was a glove-like device that would administer a steroid into his hand or wrist to help him heal an injury much faster than the body can do on its own. Whatever exactly it was, it fit the legal definition of a performance enhancing drug and it was a violation of his contract with Kawi. He said at the time, he believed they just wanted him off the team no matter what.
They all got strung out on pain killers. Today’s guys use toradol, horrible for the kidneys, but non- addictive.
They wanted him off the team. They needed to free up money for the guy they were going after.
Pit Row
I don’t think steroid injections for inflammation or injury r illegal. I think I had 11 or 13 infections recently. The pain management program consists of No painkillers, just crappy anti flamatories & muscle relaxers. Even a surgery you only get a dozen now. Thx to the idiots that want them for recreational use. 90,s to 02 dr,s or back specialist gave you a large bottle with 4 refills. Everyone just tapered down , only take 1 instead of 2 Then 1/2,s to get off them it’s really not that hard . You might feel crappy for 2-5 days.
Both right. There are drugs in jail facilities, but not quite as easy to get as on the street. As Matt said, guards are culprits in some cases, but actually inmate dealers and their outside suppliers are resorting to many other lower-risk methods. One that is becoming popular is using drones to night-drop packages over the fence in a pre-specified location. Another is recruiting trustees on off-site work details where contraband is left in a pre-designated spot, where they are recovered during the detail and smuggled back in. (Google "inmate suitcasing" in the urban dictionary). You would think the solve for this would be to constantly 'shake everyone down', but more and more Eighth Amendment case law is limiting this from the intrusiveness standpoint. The main enabling component of this illicit trafficking is outside communication with the "free-world". By far, the biggest $$$ contraband commodity entering jails/prisons is pre-paid cell phones (and reloaded sim cards which can easily be "suitcased" in quantity).
^this fucking guy. And you wonder why everyone got addicted.
At least it wasn't 6 or 9 infections...I'd think you been hanging with Ronnie Mac...
Chief,
Public service done on the highways and in City Parks are great places for drops to work release....
Just saying it aint new, we did it back int the 00's..lol
Just a Criminal...lol
where's Izzi these days?
Riding JLaw's Kawi
😆
Yes, and then next we'll see Izzi asking for money on gofundme because his Kawi was just stolen.
Swapmoto will take care of Nico when he’s back out 🤣🤣
Man, that was heartfelt and changed my mind about what I was going to say. Nico came to one of our local tracks a few times and good friends of mine brought/pitted with him. It's not often we get guys like that at our tracks where I live..
Sucks what happened after some bad choices
Why revive this thread? Stupid.
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