Villopotos GP Loopout

I just dont understand it. How did someone that good loop out that way?  Was his throttle stuck?  That has to be it.  He couldve pulled in the clutch? Ive never actually heard him discuss it.  

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I just dont understand it. How did someone that good loop out that way?  Was his throttle stuck?  That has to be it.  He couldve pulled...

I just dont understand it. How did someone that good loop out that way?  Was his throttle stuck?  That has to be it.  He couldve pulled in the clutch? Ive never actually heard him discuss it.  

A.P did the same thing in ama outdoors . It happens . 

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How many good riders wash the front? Or swap out? It’s a mistake, not a ton different from any other kind.

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I've always suspected a traction control / electrical doodad failure. You can probably count the times you've seen big time pro's loop out. Lackey on the Honda in some gp, maybe France, on the side of a mountain. RC where he lost his visor. Millsaps maybe. AP. And RV... Eddie Cole maybe on a start... Not many that I recall but I'm old and what little mind I had I'm losing. 

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I can remember Villo being really bummed he couldn’t get a factory kawi ecu when he went to Europe so I’m guessing the electronics weren’t up to the same spec he was used to and in the heat of the moment the bike got away from him? 

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3/22/2024 2:00am

It was a really sad end to an amazing career and cool story of RV2 coming to MXGP. Guys above wrote that loopouts happens but in this case I never could understand why he didn't calm the bike with a clutch as the bike was wheeling for a couple of meters before it went 12 o'clock... And the way that he went off the track, hugging to the side of mechanics area. I think that he's mind wasn't in it 100% and he didn't want to race MXGP anymore. I would love to hear from guys who worked in Kawasaki team in that time. Probably they are all French and we will never get that interviews. Maybe DV could help... Smile  

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Pretty sure he was getting his nuts kicked after talking Villo trash and went all in @ that moment to turn things around. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

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Something similar happen to Febvre in the last race of the year in 2021 while leading if I remember correctly. 

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3/22/2024 3:17am
dirtcan wrote:

Something similar happen to Febvre in the last race of the year in 2021 while leading if I remember correctly. 

That is correct, last race of the year for a championship. To Febvre's defence, he's loopout was right after the corner. But still it happens to the best.

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3/22/2024 5:02am

You ever looped out like that? It happens so fast you don’t even know, one second you are pinned.. the next you are rolling across the track.

happened to me once when I broke traction for a second then suddenly got grip, by the time I was trying to back off it was too late.

Villo was always hard on the throttle and over the back of the bike, I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner.. 

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Stanton did it at a Supercross in 89 as well. Came out of a bowl turn and next thing you knew he was off the back. Battling Ward maybe? 

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MxAddic wrote:
Pretty sure he was getting his nuts kicked after talking Villo trash and went all in @ that moment to turn things around. Feel free to...

Pretty sure he was getting his nuts kicked after talking Villo trash and went all in @ that moment to turn things around. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.

He won the second GP he ever raced in. Not exactly getting your nuts kicked in. By comparison Cairoli never won an AMA race. 

And when did he talk trash? I dont remember him being anything other than respectful.

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Didn’t that happen at Argentina? They say that track has some square edges under the loose silt. He probably was leaned back like usual pinned thinking he was dealing with loam then caught a square edge and away we go lol

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I've always suspected a traction control / electrical doodad failure. You can probably count the times you've seen big time pro's loop out. Lackey on the...

I've always suspected a traction control / electrical doodad failure. You can probably count the times you've seen big time pro's loop out. Lackey on the Honda in some gp, maybe France, on the side of a mountain. RC where he lost his visor. Millsaps maybe. AP. And RV... Eddie Cole maybe on a start... Not many that I recall but I'm old and what little mind I had I'm losing. 

Jake Moss had a big loop out when he was a fill-in

 

at Kawasaki

 

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I've always suspected a traction control / electrical doodad failure. You can probably count the times you've seen big time pro's loop out. Lackey on the...

I've always suspected a traction control / electrical doodad failure. You can probably count the times you've seen big time pro's loop out. Lackey on the Honda in some gp, maybe France, on the side of a mountain. RC where he lost his visor. Millsaps maybe. AP. And RV... Eddie Cole maybe on a start... Not many that I recall but I'm old and what little mind I had I'm losing. 

I believe Andy is correct, ignition malfunction. 

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You ever looped out like that? It happens so fast you don’t even know, one second you are pinned.. the next you are rolling across the...

You ever looped out like that? It happens so fast you don’t even know, one second you are pinned.. the next you are rolling across the track.

happened to me once when I broke traction for a second then suddenly got grip, by the time I was trying to back off it was too late.

Villo was always hard on the throttle and over the back of the bike, I’m surprised it didn’t happen sooner.. 

Bingo this happens fast and that’s me at C class speed I cant imagine at pro. TV makes it look like oh I could have saved that. I was at a woods race few weeks back ( Diamond in the rough for the curious ) and the fast ass pro guys fly by me like I’m going backwards and I’m thinking how in the hell are they even seeing the trees at those speeds, they have to be looking 50 - 100 feet ahead at all times. 

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Did it make you think of RV any different because of it? Sure as hell made no difference to me, he will always be a mad mofo as far as I’m concerned.

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3/22/2024 6:38am

Was he contractually obligated to race that series? 

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Did it make you think of RV any different because of it? Sure as hell made no difference to me, he will always be a mad...

Did it make you think of RV any different because of it? Sure as hell made no difference to me, he will always be a mad mofo as far as I’m concerned.

Agreed, can never fault the guy for giving his all and taking chances, got to love a proper hard charger.

With these guys riding as hard as they do, it's impressive more of them don't get caught out like that. Even more so for full on, off the back, cable stretching badasses like RV.

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COCCYX!

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COCCYX!

Greatest single-word quote in the history of motocross.

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3/22/2024 7:38am

Was he contractually obligated to race that series? 

Kawasaki gave him a choice of doing the MXGP series or another season of US racing. I think  it was just SX he wouldn't have had to race outdoors. My memory is not totally clear on that part.  But He wanted to retire and that was the path that they agreed on. 

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Shit happens. Factory riders crash, too.

Jeff Emig looped out his SR250 in practice the day he won the '96 National Championship. Maybe it's a Kawasaki thing!

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Phil109 wrote:
Didn’t that happen at Argentina? They say that track has some square edges under the loose silt. He probably was leaned back like usual pinned thinking...

Didn’t that happen at Argentina? They say that track has some square edges under the loose silt. He probably was leaned back like usual pinned thinking he was dealing with loam then caught a square edge and away we go lol

It was at Pietramurata in northern Italy.
 

I happened to be in the area traveling once and stopped by. The mud is where he went down. Unreal scenery. 
 

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Shit happens…

Remember Herlings crashing on the sighting lap?  Broken foot…

Shit happens.

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Easy eough to happen. Arm pump probably didn't help. Villo wasn't at his best that season. The only race we saw the real Villo in MXGP was that qualifying race in Argentina. 

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Nitrous button stuck open........

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Malfunction of the traction control system. Under normal circumstances, the ECU would make adjustments to the available torque being applied, which would induce rear wheel slip and bring the front end down. The rider is expected to keep the throttle wide open, however this time something in the system had an error & the rear wheel traction was not reduced. Probably had something to do with it being a high speed section and the front wheel slowly lifting off the groun. 

 

There has been improvements in the recent years to be more predictive based on the pitch/roll inputs from the onboard sensors. 

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