Best whoops of the year?

Edited Date/Time 3/17/2024 7:07am

I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys.  Lots of mistakes and crashes, but no big injuries that I saw.  I hope Feld learns from that and we see more of this in the future.  If the racers can’t carry much speed into them, the whoops can still be challenging, but not so dangerous.

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3/17/2024 7:13am

Worst of the year last night. Goat trail. 

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Whoops have been absolutely pathetic this year

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Awful 

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If you like those just go and watch endurocross. 

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3/17/2024 7:35am

All I know is Jett full sending into those chewed up, rutted out whoops was insane. 

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3/17/2024 8:32am Edited Date/Time 3/17/2024 5:24pm
I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys...

I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys.  Lots of mistakes and crashes, but no big injuries that I saw.  I hope Feld learns from that and we see more of this in the future.  If the racers can’t carry much speed into them, the whoops can still be challenging, but not so dangerous.

I agree.  Those were classic woops.  Like from the late 80's, early 90's.  It separated the men from the boys.

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3/17/2024 8:41am

Chopped wood would have been just as good.

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3/17/2024 8:42am

Jett’s jump line into them made the difference as no one else hit that line. 

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3/17/2024 8:57am

I thought terrible and the end 2 were way too close to the corner

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The whoops, and track designs overall, have left a lot to be desired. 

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3/17/2024 9:11am

There haven’t been whoops this entire season. They either break down and turn to a jump line or turn into a goat trail like last night in Indy. 
 

Will we ever see traditional whoop sections again or are these bikes just too powerful with too much track time for the whoops to hold up anymore? 🤔

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I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys...

I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys.  Lots of mistakes and crashes, but no big injuries that I saw.  I hope Feld learns from that and we see more of this in the future.  If the racers can’t carry much speed into them, the whoops can still be challenging, but not so dangerous.

garagedog wrote:

I agree.  Those were classic woops.  Like from the late 80's, early 90's.  It separated the men from the boys.

You mean,Jett from the men?Laughing

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zehn wrote:

Whoops have been absolutely pathetic this year

Yeah, all 9 of them 🙄

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Having a Dog leg into the woops was screwy and made them more dangerous. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

Worst of the year last night. Goat trail. 

They started as a joke and turned into a mudbog.

Even though they gave Jett a great opportunity to showcase his technique, commitment and confidence thanks to the lil'wall before them, the still were pretty crappy.

These small nine packs are an embarassment for such an elite championship. They lokk like they're out of WSX -that's to say smaller than in Paris, lol...

 

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3/17/2024 11:42am

I thought terrible and the end 2 were way too close to the corner

That was really weird. The corner was right at the end. So you had guy cutting over to make the corner. Shit design 

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I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys...

I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys.  Lots of mistakes and crashes, but no big injuries that I saw.  I hope Feld learns from that and we see more of this in the future.  If the racers can’t carry much speed into them, the whoops can still be challenging, but not so dangerous.

I 100% agree with the slow and technical concept. I’m sure most people will call me an idiot on here because when you disagree with someone online, you apparently have the right to berate them. I would love to see, not only the whoops, but the entire track move in the slower and more technical direction. I’ll never understand why feld, track builders, etc think that reducing the angle of a jump face equals a higher level of safety. In actuality this increases the speed of the rider. I think the speeds of a lot of supercross tracks is too high, especially in gnarly rhythm sections. Making everything steeper, slows the riders forward speed and when done correctly, requires a higher level of timing and skill. Would you rather crash in a rhythm section going 45mph or 30?

 

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Bring back smaller skidsteer whoops!!

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I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys...

I’m thinking the whoop section in Indy last night was the best of the year.  Slow and technical, they really separated the men from the boys.  Lots of mistakes and crashes, but no big injuries that I saw.  I hope Feld learns from that and we see more of this in the future.  If the racers can’t carry much speed into them, the whoops can still be challenging, but not so dangerous.

I agree, I loved watching them try to figure out a fast way through. Jett showed everyone how to do it. It was his ace in the hole and he would gain massive time when he pulled the move.

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If the whoops led into a bowl turn they would have raced well… but as they goat tracked into a crappy inside rut. 

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Sparkey wrote:

Jett’s jump line into them made the difference as no one else hit that line. 

Jett always seems to have a line or two, on every track that nobody, or maybe a couple guys are doing.  His results are continually proving it.......  By the time the rest see them, find them, or become informed of them, it's too late.  

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Jett continuing to jump into them…..that was beyond sick!

 

everyone else was like “I’m not doing that!”

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MB19 wrote:
I 100% agree with the slow and technical concept. I’m sure most people will call me an idiot on here because when you disagree with someone...

I 100% agree with the slow and technical concept. I’m sure most people will call me an idiot on here because when you disagree with someone online, you apparently have the right to berate them. I would love to see, not only the whoops, but the entire track move in the slower and more technical direction. I’ll never understand why feld, track builders, etc think that reducing the angle of a jump face equals a higher level of safety. In actuality this increases the speed of the rider. I think the speeds of a lot of supercross tracks is too high, especially in gnarly rhythm sections. Making everything steeper, slows the riders forward speed and when done correctly, requires a higher level of timing and skill. Would you rather crash in a rhythm section going 45mph or 30?

 

Well if you slow it down,  it will be deemed to risky. You would have to slow down the bikes as well.  Yet they get ejected at high speed (forkner) currently.  Only more dirt would work,  and the only way to do that IMO is to put pipes under the mounds of dirt to save dirt.   Honestly I do not know why they dont do that now.  

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Sparkey wrote:

Jett’s jump line into them made the difference as no one else hit that line. 

KR was the first to use that technique and Jett picked up on it. Ken bailed on it after it got rough. It worked for Jett this time, I’m not sure if he should have dialed it down in the 3rd race, but that can lead to errors too

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3/17/2024 8:44pm

I liked the fact that the best supercross riders in the world were all having trouble, none looked comfortable and they all had to figure out something out of their norm. Guess I'm old school. 

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3/18/2024 6:34am

All these guys have hard whoops at their private tracks to blitz. Whoops were literally designed to have riders skim across the tops. They haven't made real whoops consistently for almost 5 years now. I could care less about safety with whoops. This is motocross, its dangerous to jump anything on that track. Quit putting the highest level riders on a bubblewrap track. I guarantee if they were normal whoops the racing would be better. This jumping, rolling, rutted BS sections they've been creating aren't whoops anymore. Its absolutely pathetic. Glendale had the closest thing to real whoops and those were small. Bring back Loader whoops and lime. We're overdue for good racing on tracks that don't chew up like playdough. Its not fun to watch top level guys double thru "whoops" that have unnecessary 8" deep ruts. They should be hard pack, loader whoops with lime to hold together. And don't tell me its the powerful bikes, its most definitely the terrible design of them.

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I watched the Paris mains over the weekend and was wondering how those whoops were made? They held up great and didn't rut up at all 

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JJO741 wrote:

The whoops, and track designs overall, have left a lot to be desired. 

I cannot figure out what the track designers were thinking with the corner before the whoops. I giant bowl corner that leads to.... nothing.

It was obvious that everyone would take the inside and it would be the most one-lined section of the track, why didn't they make it off-camber to try and provide some reason to go to the outside?

 

Also, when did dirt wurx become "supermotocross track crew"

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I did see one guy launching it from both the inside and the outside.

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