2024 PENTON 320cc Electric Start with Kick Backup. Race Ready Cycle in Dover, Ohio now on sale. Forst new PENTON since 1978.

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TooTallJason 11/10/2023 2:03pm
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So bad graphics and a big bore on a previous gen 300 EXC? 

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zehn 11/10/2023 2:13pm
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This aint it chief

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The real Sasquatch 11/10/2023 2:14pm
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What kind of forks are on it? Those look like Honda fork guards. Do they have WP like the other KTM's or did they go with something different?  I know the CR fork guards fit onto the older KTM forks. The bikes from around 2010 that had the full wrap around guards that You had to cut off or take the forks out of the triple clamps. So could be older WP stuff.  Is it supposed to be a less expensive option? Or what is the idea behind selling an old KTM again?

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ktmracer726 11/10/2023 2:25pm
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Is this a china 300 with penton graphics?

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ATKpilot99 11/10/2023 2:45pm
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Yeah no 

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Built in Ohio?  Or assembled in Ohio from a crate shipped from China?

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RACING 11/10/2023 2:51pm
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ktmracer726 wrote:

Is this a china 300 with penton graphics?

That's what it looks like.

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Hman144 11/10/2023 3:54pm
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Oh boy.  As much as I admire this cat's desire to revive the iconic name and bring something interesting to the scene, this is a massive swing and miss.  At least it will be with THOSE WHO KNOW.  (Y'know, Vitards.)  Dude should have unleashed this on a different audience.

So he buys the rights to the name.  Check.

Goes on Alibaba and finds a bike that can be somewhat customized through the Asian manufacturer.  Check.

Thinks to himself, "What else can I do to make it seem legit?  I know, a Blackwater sticker.  And if one is good, two is gooder."

This is a Chinese knock off with the commensurate overuse of colored parts and some cut rate graphics. 

At least we got to see more than the release of a frame or a motor.  

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Warlock 11/10/2023 4:03pm
11/10/2023 4:03pm

I can't believe the Penton clan would sell their name to put on something like this. 🤔

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Old School Fool 11/10/2023 4:19pm
11/10/2023 4:19pm

                        I do not in any way believe this is approved by the Penton family. This dumbass is way outta line , and I hope the Penton clan serves him up a cease and desist order. Asshole.

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Magoofan 11/10/2023 4:23pm
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Vince Friese must be behind this monstrosity.....   

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coopernicus 11/10/2023 5:35pm
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Just as I speculated in the other "Penton" thread, a KTM knockoff from Asia.  Not ideal, but I hear some of these bikes are not that bad.  Maybe this one won't be bad.  Other brands have gone this route with the latest using a similar tactic being Fantic (it was basically a Yamaha) until they recently debuted the Minarelli motor for it.  My point for bringing that up is that maybe this is the first step to bring back a real Penton where they develop their own bike over time...Or maybe not. I would wager on "not".

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wfopete 11/10/2023 5:52pm
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From FB:

Jack Penton

This is in no way connected to John Penton or the Penton family. We do NOT endorse or condone this use of our name.

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Last2Stroke 11/10/2023 6:18pm
11/10/2023 6:18pm
Hman144 wrote:
Oh boy.  As much as I admire this cat's desire to revive the iconic name and bring something interesting to the scene, this is a massive...

Oh boy.  As much as I admire this cat's desire to revive the iconic name and bring something interesting to the scene, this is a massive swing and miss.  At least it will be with THOSE WHO KNOW.  (Y'know, Vitards.)  Dude should have unleashed this on a different audience.

So he buys the rights to the name.  Check.

Goes on Alibaba and finds a bike that can be somewhat customized through the Asian manufacturer.  Check.

Thinks to himself, "What else can I do to make it seem legit?  I know, a Blackwater sticker.  And if one is good, two is gooder."

This is a Chinese knock off with the commensurate overuse of colored parts and some cut rate graphics. 

At least we got to see more than the release of a frame or a motor.  

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The Importer is legally responsible the bike meets local standards and regulations, Terry will need good liability insurance!

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wwdiii 11/10/2023 7:56pm
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I have one on order.  Mine came with a E option!

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H.E.penyypacker432 11/10/2023 9:13pm
11/10/2023 9:13pm
coopernicus wrote:
Just as I speculated in the other "Penton" thread, a KTM knockoff from Asia.  Not ideal, but I hear some of these bikes are not that...

Just as I speculated in the other "Penton" thread, a KTM knockoff from Asia.  Not ideal, but I hear some of these bikes are not that bad.  Maybe this one won't be bad.  Other brands have gone this route with the latest using a similar tactic being Fantic (it was basically a Yamaha) until they recently debuted the Minarelli motor for it.  My point for bringing that up is that maybe this is the first step to bring back a real Penton where they develop their own bike over time...Or maybe not. I would wager on "not".

Fantics were a joint operation between them and Yamaha. Fantics are just Yamahas with white plastics. These are Chinese trash trying to be 8 year old ktm’s. 

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devotid 11/10/2023 11:38pm
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John Penton wouldnt piss on this turds ashes. 

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Gravel 11/11/2023 7:18am
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Way too much chinesium.. hard pass.. 

 

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Gravel 11/11/2023 7:20am
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Does it have an auto-clutch? How does Rekluse feel about the clutch cover?

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ns503 11/11/2023 9:44am
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Terry_Everett wrote:

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Quite the abomination ya got going on there.

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coopernicus 11/11/2023 9:54am
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coopernicus wrote:
Just as I speculated in the other "Penton" thread, a KTM knockoff from Asia.  Not ideal, but I hear some of these bikes are not that...

Just as I speculated in the other "Penton" thread, a KTM knockoff from Asia.  Not ideal, but I hear some of these bikes are not that bad.  Maybe this one won't be bad.  Other brands have gone this route with the latest using a similar tactic being Fantic (it was basically a Yamaha) until they recently debuted the Minarelli motor for it.  My point for bringing that up is that maybe this is the first step to bring back a real Penton where they develop their own bike over time...Or maybe not. I would wager on "not".

H.E.penyypacker432 wrote:
Fantics were a joint operation between them and Yamaha. Fantics are just Yamahas with white plastics. These are Chinese trash trying to be 8 year old...

Fantics were a joint operation between them and Yamaha. Fantics are just Yamahas with white plastics. These are Chinese trash trying to be 8 year old ktm’s. 

Agreed, I was not implying that the Fantic was equal to the subject collaboration. I think the odds of success for this joint operation between Penton and (likely) Koshine are pretty low. Nevertheless, it's the same strategy to buy another motorcycle, make some changes (even if only graphics), and sell it as your own which has been done countless times throughout motorcycling history.

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mx317 11/11/2023 10:26am
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coopernicus wrote:
Agreed, I was not implying that the Fantic was equal to the subject collaboration. I think the odds of success for this joint operation between Penton...

Agreed, I was not implying that the Fantic was equal to the subject collaboration. I think the odds of success for this joint operation between Penton and (likely) Koshine are pretty low. Nevertheless, it's the same strategy to buy another motorcycle, make some changes (even if only graphics), and sell it as your own which has been done countless times throughout motorcycling history.

Which is what Penton did. 

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APLMAN99 11/11/2023 10:46am
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coopernicus wrote:
Agreed, I was not implying that the Fantic was equal to the subject collaboration. I think the odds of success for this joint operation between Penton...

Agreed, I was not implying that the Fantic was equal to the subject collaboration. I think the odds of success for this joint operation between Penton and (likely) Koshine are pretty low. Nevertheless, it's the same strategy to buy another motorcycle, make some changes (even if only graphics), and sell it as your own which has been done countless times throughout motorcycling history.

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Which is what Penton did. 

Not really. John Penton helped design/develop the bikes that he was importing, so it wasn’t quite the same as rebadging an existing fully built bike. 

I’m sure that there are some nuances that are not widely known anymore, but the relationship between Penton and KTM wasn’t strictly rebadging. 
 

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mattyhamz2 11/11/2023 10:55am
11/11/2023 10:55am
Terry_Everett wrote:

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The real Sasquatch wrote:
What kind of forks are on it? Those look like Honda fork guards. Do they have WP like the other KTM's or did they go with...

What kind of forks are on it? Those look like Honda fork guards. Do they have WP like the other KTM's or did they go with something different?  I know the CR fork guards fit onto the older KTM forks. The bikes from around 2010 that had the full wrap around guards that You had to cut off or take the forks out of the triple clamps. So could be older WP stuff.  Is it supposed to be a less expensive option? Or what is the idea behind selling an old KTM again?

Fun fact, some of these fork guards are swappable. Knew a few guys with Hondas that ran the KTM fork guards because they wrapped around the entire lower fork tube.

The real Sasquatch 11/11/2023 1:34pm
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Terry_Everett wrote:

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The real Sasquatch wrote:
What kind of forks are on it? Those look like Honda fork guards. Do they have WP like the other KTM's or did they go with...

What kind of forks are on it? Those look like Honda fork guards. Do they have WP like the other KTM's or did they go with something different?  I know the CR fork guards fit onto the older KTM forks. The bikes from around 2010 that had the full wrap around guards that You had to cut off or take the forks out of the triple clamps. So could be older WP stuff.  Is it supposed to be a less expensive option? Or what is the idea behind selling an old KTM again?

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Fun fact, some of these fork guards are swappable. Knew a few guys with Hondas that ran the KTM fork guards because they wrapped around the...

Fun fact, some of these fork guards are swappable. Knew a few guys with Hondas that ran the KTM fork guards because they wrapped around the entire lower fork tube.

Yup, I know some KTM guys who ran the CR guards .  R-tech has started to offer  extra coverage fork guards that wrap around for a few models now too.

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JustMX 11/11/2023 2:13pm
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So

Another brand

How long before KTM buys them out?

Shit, they are running out of different colors of plastic to use on the KTM platform

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cbarber 11/11/2023 3:20pm
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So

Another brand

How long before KTM buys them out?

Shit, they are running out of different colors of plastic to use on the KTM platform

You really think ktm is going to buy some Chinese shit knockoff of their old, ripped off technology?

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