Why didnt Tomac go to KTM?

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Sandusky26 wrote:
Most KTM owners are fucked in the head, not just here, at MX tracks across the globe.
This place is entering a new low.
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Monster & KYB
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Dirty Points 3/18/2022 10:25am
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Has anyone considered maybe he went to Star because a spot was available?
Dirty Points wrote:
I'm pretty sure nearly every team had a spot available for Tomac.
PFitzG38 wrote:
Yup. Including Star
Sure, but then it's like saying he went to Star because they have a bike with two wheels. Well, yes, but...
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HonDawg17 3/18/2022 10:38am
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He was already with Monster Energy...it was a no-brainer plus they use KYB, cable clutch, and make a ton of power. Look at the Deegan Deal. The Deegans are OWNED by Monster. No way they'd let him go to RedBull.
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PFitzG38 3/18/2022 11:18am
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Dirty Points wrote:
Sure, but then it's like saying he went to Star because they have a bike with two wheels. Well, yes, but...
Now you get it
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PFitzG38 3/18/2022 11:19am
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HonDawg17 wrote:
He was already with Monster Energy...it was a no-brainer plus they use KYB, cable clutch, and make a ton of power. Look at the Deegan Deal...
He was already with Monster Energy...it was a no-brainer plus they use KYB, cable clutch, and make a ton of power. Look at the Deegan Deal. The Deegans are OWNED by Monster. No way they'd let him go to RedBull.
I’d say Monster is owned by the Deegans
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Dirty Points 3/18/2022 12:03pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
Sure, but then it's like saying he went to Star because they have a bike with two wheels. Well, yes, but...
PFitzG38 wrote:
Now you get it
Yeah, I get it: it was a 100% frivolous statement.
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Dirt.Squirt 3/18/2022 12:22pm
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It’s pretty obvious that he went there because his old suspension guru went there and the fact that they would let him change the bike as he sees fit.

KTM would not allow for that
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PFitzG38 3/18/2022 12:23pm
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Dirty Points wrote:
Yeah, I get it: it was a 100% frivolous statement.
Bingo!!
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Too much bubblegum at KTM.
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Why is this a question? Is going to KTM the default move against which other moves need to be justified?
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motoarmageddon wrote:
everyone on vital wanted Tomac to go to KTM, thats where he could show his potential on the best bike with Roger Decoster. I guess its...
everyone on vital wanted Tomac to go to KTM, thats where he could show his potential on the best bike with Roger Decoster. I guess its a good thing he didnt.
SLAPAHO wrote:
Not everyone.
Yup.. These threads are comical when the OP claims the almighty KTM as being superior to the other manufacturers.. #Stopthenonsense...
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TheVetGuy 3/18/2022 1:34pm
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TBOLTUSA wrote:
He wanted a cable clutch
Ha ! Ha ! Good one !
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TBOLTUSA wrote:
He wanted a cable clutch
TheVetGuy wrote:
Ha ! Ha ! Good one !
He isn’t joking!
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I heard Eli’s hair is insured for $10,000 dollars
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Why did you start a pointless topic?
fellow addict 3/18/2022 4:24pm
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Inside scoop. Tomac had a meeting with them. Roger came out to Tomac’s house with bikes and a mechanic. They tried and tried to get the bike working, but in the end the KTM just wasn’t good enough. (Basically he had a higher number of crash instances on the bike on average, and went with the blue bike) This is exactly what we are seeing out of the steel frame riders this year so hats off to the homework Tomac did.

Now you know case closed.
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Other trolls take note, this is how you do it.
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KYB. Gilmore.
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Bruce372 wrote:
He picked his favorite color and went one tooth up on the back sprocket
Classic 😂😂
ProbablyDave 3/19/2022 1:15am
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I have no idea what OP is smoking, but I do sometimes wonder if Villopoto had any influence on Tomac's decision to go to Yamaha. Villopoto was clearly miserable at the end of this time with Kawasaki, and then really came out of his shell when he signed with Yamaha. Of course, maybe just being away from the grind helped Villopoto's attitude, but maybe he had a word with Tomac? Maybe they experienced the same conservative attitudes and bullshit with Kawasaki, and Villopoto told Tomac how great the Star team can be?
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fullfloater 3/19/2022 3:43am
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Um, not to throw a wrench in all your spokes, but if you listened to the recent interview with John Tomac, you'd know. There's a suspension...
Um, not to throw a wrench in all your spokes, but if you listened to the recent interview with John Tomac, you'd know. There's a suspension guy nicknamed "Gilly" that now works at Star. He once worked at Kawasaki with Eli, and before that at Geico with Eli. To Eli, this guy is a Merlin-like wizard with suspension and chassis setup. When Kawasaki canned him, it broke Eli's heart. It was only a matter of time before they got back together, and now that they have, the results speak for themselves. Eli appears genuinely joyous, and almost seems to toy with his competition.

What we'll never know, is how dominant he would have been on the green bike if they just hadn't fired that Gilly guy. The mind fairly spins at how dominant he COULD have been and what Kawasaki COULD have had.

Ah, the corporate world.
Hi Gilly!
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Roczoff 3/19/2022 10:01am
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gregyou wrote:
He’s a monster athlete
And he cares too much about his health to ever put that in his body.
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Zycki11 3/19/2022 12:49pm
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vansnxtweek489 wrote:
I just can't see Tomac on any Austrian bike. I don't think the riding style meshes with the bikes, even though I'm sure he could rip...
I just can't see Tomac on any Austrian bike. I don't think the riding style meshes with the bikes, even though I'm sure he could rip it.
kb228 wrote:
I agree. As hard as tomac hits everything, the ktm forks would probably snap off on the rollers
🤔 interesting take. Japanese forks 48mm Austrian factory forks 52mm.
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Langhammx 3/19/2022 8:30pm
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Zycki11 wrote:
🤔 interesting take. Japanese forks 48mm Austrian factory forks 52mm.
Not actually….

But kb228 has it all wrong ! Laughing
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Zycki11 3/20/2022 12:29pm
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Zycki11 wrote:
🤔 interesting take. Japanese forks 48mm Austrian factory forks 52mm.
Langhammx wrote:
Not actually….

But kb228 has it all wrong ! Laughing
Ok Pingree Tongue
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Langhammx 3/20/2022 1:27pm
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Zycki11 wrote:
Ok Pingree Tongue
I’m not sure what the Pingree reference was, but I kinda agree with most things I’ve seen him speak about. I’m a Grant Langston fan as well for many reasons. Wink

My point is that the “Factory” Showa forks are not 48mm. I’m not sure what KYB is using on the factory bikes, it may be 48mm now a days. They had 50mm tubes at one time…
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kiwifan 3/20/2022 1:43pm
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Gilmore I would say is the #1 reason than any other
Ace Dudemeister 3/20/2022 3:04pm
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He didn’t have enough racecraft for Webb.

They’ll be equal after this season. Tomac probably ahead.
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Zycki11 3/20/2022 4:54pm
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Zycki11 wrote:
Ok Pingree Tongue
Langhammx wrote:
I’m not sure what the Pingree reference was, but I kinda agree with most things I’ve seen him speak about. I’m a Grant Langston fan as...
I’m not sure what the Pingree reference was, but I kinda agree with most things I’ve seen him speak about. I’m a Grant Langston fan as well for many reasons. Wink

My point is that the “Factory” Showa forks are not 48mm. I’m not sure what KYB is using on the factory bikes, it may be 48mm now a days. They had 50mm tubes at one time…
50mm tubes went out the window as riders learned the aluminum frames were rigid and the large forks weren’t good for them. Kyb has been 48mm for years. Pretty sure showa is 49mm.

As for the Pingree reference, it was a light hearted joke based on Ping snapping his 125 at Phoenix in half at the head of the frame and triple clamps. Thought it was a comedic injection into the gentleman who said Eli would snap off the forks in the rollers.
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