ET3's bike almost blow up?

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kott0n 3/6/2022 10:53am
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RandomUserName wrote:
yes I do. What I dont know are the parts diagrams for modern 4 strokes as I'm an old 2T guy, so no need to be...
yes I do. What I dont know are the parts diagrams for modern 4 strokes as I'm an old 2T guy, so no need to be a dick. I've seen plenty of burnouts but had never seen one shooting that much steam directly out of the engine. Thus my post. I figured that bike was on its last leg post burn-out.
zehn wrote:
Modern 4 strokes are much more durable and can take way more abuse than 2T designs so I can see why you would think it was...
Modern 4 strokes are much more durable and can take way more abuse than 2T designs so I can see why you would think it was about to give up
If you have a fresh motor for every race like these guys do, it's a wash at best.

Long term like regular people ride them, 2T lasts much longer.
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Zycki11 3/6/2022 11:04am
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RandomUserName wrote:
yes I do. What I dont know are the parts diagrams for modern 4 strokes as I'm an old 2T guy, so no need to be...
yes I do. What I dont know are the parts diagrams for modern 4 strokes as I'm an old 2T guy, so no need to be a dick. I've seen plenty of burnouts but had never seen one shooting that much steam directly out of the engine. Thus my post. I figured that bike was on its last leg post burn-out.
zehn wrote:
Modern 4 strokes are much more durable and can take way more abuse than 2T designs so I can see why you would think it was...
Modern 4 strokes are much more durable and can take way more abuse than 2T designs so I can see why you would think it was about to give up
kott0n wrote:
If you have a fresh motor for every race like these guys do, it's a wash at best. Long term like regular people ride them, 2T...
If you have a fresh motor for every race like these guys do, it's a wash at best.

Long term like regular people ride them, 2T lasts much longer.
No they do not. Typical wear and tear two strokes do not last longer, they are just cheaper to replace items with and easier to rebuild.
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Chris_Buehler wrote:
My buddy said his radiators were all packed with sand and dirt. Anyone got a picture of that?
ET3 ate roost fir all but 2 laps, that bike most of been filled with sand
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KiwiBermRailer 3/6/2022 12:48pm
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RandomUserName wrote:
lol. ok. Glad i asked. Appreciate the education you bunch of Ninjas.
Magoofan wrote:
You get used to it. There are a ton of self proclaimed billy bad-asses here.

Best to just not engage those types....
Yes a lot of arm chair factory riders/mechanics on here haha
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kb228 wrote:
Its proof the kawi wasnt have problems and it was the rider burning up the clutch…………….
Ask JA21 if he agrees with your statement. Dude had to limp his bike to the finish earlier this season because of said clutch 🤣
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Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
Clutch abuse amounts to high engine revs and a high generation of heat.
“Burning up the clutch”
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sandman768 3/6/2022 1:42pm
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I would burn up all the clutch plates they have for that kind of talent!
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Crush 3/6/2022 1:45pm
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As much steam as it was bellowing in the burnout I don’t think it was close to giving up the ghost in the race.
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Yamaha has always been a very dependable bike. Yes the 10'-13' bike was a turd but still very bulletproof. I did love the ergos of the 10'-13' 250f just wasn't efi but the wr450 with those ergos, non-reverse motor and EFI was an underrated thing of beauty, not talked about enough.


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sgrimmxdad 3/6/2022 2:46pm
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Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!
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toomanykaws 3/6/2022 3:29pm
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Grew up on Yamahas. Some of the most durable engines bar none. Overall bike as well. Might not win all the magazine shootouts. But one thing Yamaha is good for is build quality.
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Timo 3/6/2022 3:47pm
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Grew up on Yamahas. Some of the most durable engines bar none. Overall bike as well. Might not win all the magazine shootouts. But one thing...
Grew up on Yamahas. Some of the most durable engines bar none. Overall bike as well. Might not win all the magazine shootouts. But one thing Yamaha is good for is build quality.
I think they've been doing alright in the magazine shootouts for the last 4 years... Except MXA
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Timo 3/6/2022 3:50pm
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Joe Ripper wrote:
Yamaha has always been a very dependable bike. Yes the 10'-13' bike was a turd but still very bulletproof. I did love the ergos of the...
Yamaha has always been a very dependable bike. Yes the 10'-13' bike was a turd but still very bulletproof. I did love the ergos of the 10'-13' 250f just wasn't efi but the wr450 with those ergos, non-reverse motor and EFI was an underrated thing of beauty, not talked about enough.


Everyone says that about the 10-13 yz450f, but it did get 2nd overall in 2011.
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RandomUserName wrote:
you can see the hose has let go. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/06/536764/s1200_Screenshot_19.jpg[/img]
you can see the hose has let go.
Overflow hose
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mirramaxx 3/6/2022 6:06pm
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Thought for sure he was going to save the bike in order to secure 2nd what a race.
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Juck 3/6/2022 7:16pm
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mirramaxx wrote:
Thought for sure he was going to save the bike in order to secure 2nd what a race.
I doubt he noticed it while he was riding
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CPR 3/6/2022 7:49pm
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WhatsStoppingU wrote:
Steam not smoke. Hose didn’t let go, the engine was hot and venting excess pressure. As long as there was steam, engine was fine.
I know the whole ‘….as long as there’s still steam…’ thing seems to be the trendy to say; the commentators say it all the time, but I’ve seen lots of engine components fail due to overheating while there’s still coolant in the system.

It’s a risky business keeping an overheated engine loaded up like Tomac was. Of course the risk is worth it with only a few laps left, but you can’t just simply say it’s going to be fine because there’s still steam.
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BIGmizzyAZ 3/6/2022 7:59pm
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Crazy thing is this dude can wring the neck of a works 450! Rare human that can tame such an animal… ET can smoke the best engines ever made in 20 minutes… and still win! Impressive
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I’m curious if there is an oil cooler on the Yamaha like the Kawi. Wasn’t the purpose of the Kawi cooler to mitigate Eli’s heavy clutch abuse and heat generated?
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sgrimmxdad wrote:
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!
Oh man, I haven't heard this in years! My old man used to say this one all the time
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5 secs after said beast was off the podium


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zehn 3/6/2022 8:24pm
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Worth it
factorypartschanger 3/6/2022 8:39pm
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I Wonder if they had the electric water pump set up on there if it would hold up better if sand/mud loaded the louvers up 🤷🏼‍♂️ Maybe we’ll see one on there soon??
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Tank_Slapper 3/6/2022 8:53pm
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Cook-off all the coolant and still runs fine, you cant kill a blue pig Shocked
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Leeham 3/6/2022 10:32pm
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RandomUserName wrote:
you can see the hose has let go. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/03/06/536764/s1200_Screenshot_19.jpg[/img]
you can see the hose has let go.
Must be tough walking around all day in a helmet huh
Thisusernameisavailable 3/6/2022 11:41pm
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BIGmizzyAZ wrote:
Crazy thing is this dude can wring the neck of a works 450! Rare human that can tame such an animal… ET can smoke the best...
Crazy thing is this dude can wring the neck of a works 450! Rare human that can tame such an animal… ET can smoke the best engines ever made in 20 minutes… and still win! Impressive
You could do it too- just hold the clutch in and hold the throttle wide!

Which is effectively what Eli is doing. If he didnt abuse the clutch and monitored his speed with the throttle instead, the bike wouldn't get so hot.
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Vet57 3/7/2022 3:42am
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It's a Yamaha...he could have done another moto!
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BIGmizzyAZ wrote:
Crazy thing is this dude can wring the neck of a works 450! Rare human that can tame such an animal… ET can smoke the best...
Crazy thing is this dude can wring the neck of a works 450! Rare human that can tame such an animal… ET can smoke the best engines ever made in 20 minutes… and still win! Impressive
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
You could do it too- just hold the clutch in and hold the throttle wide! Which is effectively what Eli is doing. If he didnt abuse...
You could do it too- just hold the clutch in and hold the throttle wide!

Which is effectively what Eli is doing. If he didnt abuse the clutch and monitored his speed with the throttle instead, the bike wouldn't get so hot.
Why do that win what he is doing has put him up there among the all time legends
Thisusernameisavailable 3/7/2022 6:06am
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BIGmizzyAZ wrote:
Crazy thing is this dude can wring the neck of a works 450! Rare human that can tame such an animal… ET can smoke the best...
Crazy thing is this dude can wring the neck of a works 450! Rare human that can tame such an animal… ET can smoke the best engines ever made in 20 minutes… and still win! Impressive
Thisusernameisavailable wrote:
You could do it too- just hold the clutch in and hold the throttle wide! Which is effectively what Eli is doing. If he didnt abuse...
You could do it too- just hold the clutch in and hold the throttle wide!

Which is effectively what Eli is doing. If he didnt abuse the clutch and monitored his speed with the throttle instead, the bike wouldn't get so hot.
gregyou wrote:
Why do that win what he is doing has put him up there among the all time legends
Dont misunderstand me- Im not telling Eli how to ride, im simply stating fact about how heavy use of the clutch contributes to heat build up.

Eli can ride exactly how he wants all the time Yamaha are confident they can keep the bike running.
If things escalate and the risk of DNF's are real, then it is likely the team would ask him to dial it back a notch. But like all things, constant development should see the problem get better with time.
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