Honda CRF450R 2021

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H4L 7/14/2020 8:33am
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Lunch_Box wrote:
Hopefully they still have a works edition for us ol' timers with money to blow.
+1. I’ll probably wait for the 22 model since I already have a 20 WE.
Anticipating the ride report...
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H4L 7/14/2020 8:36am
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kiwifan wrote:
More power/Torque - tick Lighter weight - tick Hydro clutch - tick thinner bodywork - tick more clutch plates - tick additional clutch spring - tick...
More power/Torque - tick
Lighter weight - tick
Hydro clutch - tick
thinner bodywork - tick
more clutch plates - tick
additional clutch spring - tick
Integrated switch gear - tick
1.8L larger airbox - tick
less screws to take off seat/panels/etc - tick
less rigid/better frame - tick (well seems the case)
no wifi tuner ability - bugger
yes yes yes one muffler - tick (although i loved the twin pipes)
Agree. I was against the twin pipes at 1st when going from a 10 to an 18 model, but I actually like them now.
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jingram4 7/14/2020 9:53am
7/14/2020 9:53am
frame looks similar to the 05-08 models
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DynoDan22 7/14/2020 9:55am
7/14/2020 9:55am
Did anyone catch that Honda is also producing another production run of '20 CRF 450's for the '21 model year? Retail for the old model is $8599. Interesting.
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user760a 7/14/2020 10:03am
7/14/2020 10:03am
450RX looks great
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user760a 7/14/2020 10:05am
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DynoDan22 wrote:
Did anyone catch that Honda is also producing another production run of '20 CRF 450's for the '21 model year? Retail for the old model is...
Did anyone catch that Honda is also producing another production run of '20 CRF 450's for the '21 model year? Retail for the old model is $8599. Interesting.
That is interesting. I wonder if that just means they have a ton of them leftover...
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Motofinne 7/14/2020 10:07am
7/14/2020 10:07am
The RWE is such a good deal. Great resell value and now you get a full Ti system with it (+ all the other things). I wish they would sell it in Europe.
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GPrider 7/14/2020 10:17am
7/14/2020 10:17am
anyone catch a release date?
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ML512 7/14/2020 11:34am
7/14/2020 11:34am
GPrider wrote:
anyone catch a release date?
September for R and November for WE.
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Sr_Vet_Rider 7/14/2020 11:34am
7/14/2020 11:34am
Motofinne wrote:
The RWE is such a good deal. Great resell value and now you get a full Ti system with it (+ all the other things). I...
The RWE is such a good deal. Great resell value and now you get a full Ti system with it (+ all the other things). I wish they would sell it in Europe.
2021 Honda CRF450R Price:

$9399 MSRP
2021 Honda CRF450RWE Price:

$12,380 MSRP
2021 Honda CRF450RX Price:

$9899 MSRP
2020 Honda CRF450R New Price:

$8599 MSRP
Sr_Vet_Rider 7/14/2020 11:35am
7/14/2020 11:35am
ML512 wrote:
September for R and November for WE.
Oh shit... look who surfaced. Your cell phone broken ?
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kiwifan 7/14/2020 11:36am
7/14/2020 11:36am
Lunch_Box wrote:
Hopefully they still have a works edition for us ol' timers with money to blow.
H4L wrote:
+1. I’ll probably wait for the 22 model since I already have a 20 WE.
Anticipating the ride report...
Yeah gee I might even stick with my '20WE ....but will be very interested in riding one lol
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sandtrack315 7/14/2020 12:10pm
7/14/2020 12:10pm
Motofinne wrote:
Interesting that they have taken the same header concept as KTM.
I think FMF started that with the mega bomb header.
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sandtrack315 7/14/2020 12:12pm
7/14/2020 12:12pm
DynoDan22 wrote:
Did anyone catch that Honda is also producing another production run of '20 CRF 450's for the '21 model year? Retail for the old model is...
Did anyone catch that Honda is also producing another production run of '20 CRF 450's for the '21 model year? Retail for the old model is $8599. Interesting.
Yeah, this is much cooler than what Suzuki is doing. I know this happens informally with leftover stock and rebates, but it's cool to see it done on purpose and explicitly, and I bet there will even be some rebates on the 2020 bike later on.
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Broseph 7/14/2020 12:14pm
7/14/2020 12:14pm
How about that weight? Says it lost 3lbs overall, but 2.7lbs of that was the single exhaust. That puts the rest of the bike at a 0.3lb weight loss. I was expecting a little more considering the new frame and all.
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Dirty Points 7/14/2020 12:35pm
7/14/2020 12:35pm Edited Date/Time 7/14/2020 12:43pm
Broseph wrote:
How about that weight? Says it lost 3lbs overall, but 2.7lbs of that was the single exhaust. That puts the rest of the bike at a...
How about that weight? Says it lost 3lbs overall, but 2.7lbs of that was the single exhaust. That puts the rest of the bike at a 0.3lb weight loss. I was expecting a little more considering the new frame and all.
Total weight loss was 4.2 lbs. -- New frame/subframe lost just over 2 lbs. So half a pound was gained elsewhere (hydro clutch, larger airbox assembly, etc).
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soggy 7/14/2020 12:40pm
7/14/2020 12:40pm
Broseph wrote:
How about that weight? Says it lost 3lbs overall, but 2.7lbs of that was the single exhaust. That puts the rest of the bike at a...
How about that weight? Says it lost 3lbs overall, but 2.7lbs of that was the single exhaust. That puts the rest of the bike at a 0.3lb weight loss. I was expecting a little more considering the new frame and all.
Agreed, the hydro clutch adds a bit for sure not sure what else would? Larger airbox? TI tank? Skid plate and disc guard?

Best looking bike for 2021.
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eastcoastmx54 7/14/2020 12:47pm
7/14/2020 12:47pm
Broseph wrote:
How about that weight? Says it lost 3lbs overall, but 2.7lbs of that was the single exhaust. That puts the rest of the bike at a...
How about that weight? Says it lost 3lbs overall, but 2.7lbs of that was the single exhaust. That puts the rest of the bike at a 0.3lb weight loss. I was expecting a little more considering the new frame and all.
soggy wrote:
Agreed, the hydro clutch adds a bit for sure not sure what else would? Larger airbox? TI tank? Skid plate and disc guard? Best looking bike...
Agreed, the hydro clutch adds a bit for sure not sure what else would? Larger airbox? TI tank? Skid plate and disc guard?

Best looking bike for 2021.
I’d say weight was added with tires. The MX33’s weigh a few pounds more then the previous MX3S tires. 👎

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731chopper 7/14/2020 12:52pm
7/14/2020 12:52pm
Motofinne wrote:
Interesting that they have taken the same header concept as KTM.
The resonance chamber? Isn’t that just a cheaper way to do it with stamped steel?
vitalriderCrf 7/14/2020 12:54pm
7/14/2020 12:54pm
So what are the actual weight numbers? Wet and Dry
Sheriff245 7/14/2020 12:55pm
7/14/2020 12:55pm
kb228 wrote:
So now theres 4 ktms. 2 red ones, an orange one, and a white one.
Came here to post just that!

Orange KTM
White KTM
Red KTM
Japanese KTM
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Gravel 7/14/2020 1:01pm
7/14/2020 1:01pm
$500 for a kickstand on the RX.. plastic tank should be cheaper to make than ti, otherwise it’s virtually the same bike.. why the price increase over the R model?
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2Fmx 7/14/2020 1:15pm
7/14/2020 1:15pm
New bike looks amazing, and it looks like Honda listens! Well done. But mainly as an amateur on a bike but pro in design sphere, I like the way they present new bikes. They've put some time into explaining and comparing, supported with visuals for better understanding. I like this kind of PR Smile just my 2cents
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JohnMatrix 7/14/2020 1:31pm
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eastcoastmx54 wrote:
I’d say weight was added with tires. The MX33’s weigh a few pounds more then the previous MX3S tires. 👎
For sure, I think there is some easy weight to lose on this CRF. A set of Michelins and a Ti exhaust should be a healthy 2-3 additional pounds off. Truthfully, the 17-20 CRF never felt heavy to me at all when riding it. In fact I never felt like the KTM 450 felt lighter when riding it. Honda does a good job with lowering the center of gravity on their bikes and making them feel lighter than they are. This new model should be something special.
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kiwifan 7/14/2020 2:00pm
7/14/2020 2:00pm
kiwifan wrote:
More power/Torque - tick Lighter weight - tick Hydro clutch - tick thinner bodywork - tick more clutch plates - tick additional clutch spring - tick...
More power/Torque - tick
Lighter weight - tick
Hydro clutch - tick
thinner bodywork - tick
more clutch plates - tick
additional clutch spring - tick
Integrated switch gear - tick
1.8L larger airbox - tick
less screws to take off seat/panels/etc - tick
less rigid/better frame - tick (well seems the case)
no wifi tuner ability - bugger
yes yes yes one muffler - tick (although i loved the twin pipes)
oh and a clip-in filter - tick, I used to hate the old centre filter bolts Smile
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Chris99Flannery 7/14/2020 2:21pm
7/14/2020 2:21pm
kiwifan wrote:
More power/Torque - tick Lighter weight - tick Hydro clutch - tick thinner bodywork - tick more clutch plates - tick additional clutch spring - tick...
More power/Torque - tick
Lighter weight - tick
Hydro clutch - tick
thinner bodywork - tick
more clutch plates - tick
additional clutch spring - tick
Integrated switch gear - tick
1.8L larger airbox - tick
less screws to take off seat/panels/etc - tick
less rigid/better frame - tick (well seems the case)
no wifi tuner ability - bugger
yes yes yes one muffler - tick (although i loved the twin pipes)
kiwifan wrote:
oh and a clip-in filter - tick, I used to hate the old centre filter bolts Smile
Howd you omit “less chance of death” form your list
Kiwi??
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motoGleamer 7/14/2020 2:26pm
7/14/2020 2:26pm
This is a great looking bike. Kudos to Honda.
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kiwifan 7/14/2020 2:56pm
7/14/2020 2:56pm
kiwifan wrote:
More power/Torque - tick Lighter weight - tick Hydro clutch - tick thinner bodywork - tick more clutch plates - tick additional clutch spring - tick...
More power/Torque - tick
Lighter weight - tick
Hydro clutch - tick
thinner bodywork - tick
more clutch plates - tick
additional clutch spring - tick
Integrated switch gear - tick
1.8L larger airbox - tick
less screws to take off seat/panels/etc - tick
less rigid/better frame - tick (well seems the case)
no wifi tuner ability - bugger
yes yes yes one muffler - tick (although i loved the twin pipes)
kiwifan wrote:
oh and a clip-in filter - tick, I used to hate the old centre filter bolts Smile
Chris99Flannery wrote:
Howd you omit “less chance of death” form your list
Kiwi??
hahaha yeah saw that, I think the translation really meant "less prone to stall" but hell if people are dying on them then less chance of that now has to be a good thing lol
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kiwifan 7/14/2020 3:03pm
7/14/2020 3:03pm Edited Date/Time 7/14/2020 3:34pm
The integrated switch gear is good, I see MXA didnt seem to like it, but to me its clearer than previously (with the blue "M" for map changes, green "T" for traction control settings and the red one must be engine stop) .....better than having multiple switch gear like last year.
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FerCzD 7/14/2020 3:42pm
7/14/2020 3:42pm
KR94 2021 SX champion?
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