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Question 12/12/2019 8:04am
12/12/2019 8:04am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2019 8:05am
mauidex wrote:
ozzie to the white courtesy phone!!!!
Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Lol! Red Bull wants KTM to hire the guy that said energy drinks are awful and he would never put them in his body. Golden hire.
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as :

AC
Savatgy
Stewart
Brayton
Baggett
Wilson
(and a bit better than Bowers, Bogle, Bloss, Freise, Hill)

(so not in the tier 1 group of championship contenders: Tomac, Roczen, Musquin, Anderson, Webb, and possibly Osborne)

7th in the championship last year on the JGR bike, you still have nightmares from it Laughing
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Jasper125 wrote:
What if....... ktm offerd him a factory "gasgas" and support to introduce to supercross as a privateer with the backing of his own private sponsors
Last Braaap wrote:
That idea is so crazy that it might work out.
Since when GasGas 450cc been added AMA homologation list? Bike that its not even out yet.
A1 is not enduro event.
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Rick Amatuzio 12/12/2019 8:44am
12/12/2019 8:44am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2019 8:45am
mauidex wrote:
ozzie to the white courtesy phone!!!!
Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Lol! Red Bull wants KTM to hire the guy that said energy drinks are awful and he would never put them in his body. Golden hire.
Question wrote:
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as : AC...
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as :

AC
Savatgy
Stewart
Brayton
Baggett
Wilson
(and a bit better than Bowers, Bogle, Bloss, Freise, Hill)

(so not in the tier 1 group of championship contenders: Tomac, Roczen, Musquin, Anderson, Webb, and possibly Osborne)

7th in the championship last year on the JGR bike, you still have nightmares from it Laughing
he was 7th in the series? See, you do live on a different planet. So... what place did Seely finish?
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Jasper125 wrote:
What if....... ktm offerd him a factory "gasgas" and support to introduce to supercross as a privateer with the backing of his own private sponsors
Last Braaap wrote:
That idea is so crazy that it might work out.
tek14 wrote:
Since when GasGas 450cc been added AMA homologation list? Bike that its not even out yet.
A1 is not enduro event.
I was just joking but they could easily do it just a ktm team with gasgas as their biggest sponsor. Because that gasgas is basically gonna be a ktm with small changes...
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BroFoSho 12/12/2019 9:24am
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Question wrote:
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as : AC...
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as :

AC
Savatgy
Stewart
Brayton
Baggett
Wilson
(and a bit better than Bowers, Bogle, Bloss, Freise, Hill)

(so not in the tier 1 group of championship contenders: Tomac, Roczen, Musquin, Anderson, Webb, and possibly Osborne)

7th in the championship last year on the JGR bike, you still have nightmares from it Laughing
Ha.

All of those riders posted better finishes than Reed did last year
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CM_84 12/12/2019 10:11am
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Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Lol! Red Bull wants KTM to hire the guy that said energy drinks are awful and he would never put them in his body. Golden hire.
Question wrote:
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as : AC...
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as :

AC
Savatgy
Stewart
Brayton
Baggett
Wilson
(and a bit better than Bowers, Bogle, Bloss, Freise, Hill)

(so not in the tier 1 group of championship contenders: Tomac, Roczen, Musquin, Anderson, Webb, and possibly Osborne)

7th in the championship last year on the JGR bike, you still have nightmares from it Laughing
Rick Amatuzio wrote:
he was 7th in the series? See, you do live on a different planet. So... what place did Seely finish?
As was stated earlier in the thread, he was sitting in 7th when he got injured.
Come on buddy, surely you are not this thick.
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tingo 12/12/2019 10:16am
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Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I...
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I can’t remember the last time he finished a season.
Yes, I understand PR and these teams probably a little better than you realize.
This is FACTORY KTM. They hire to win, period. Companies like Morotex write a HUGE check for that. I would be PISSED if I’m Motorex, and they hired Reed, instead of moving Baggett up (if they didn’t have a rider) and filling someone else on the Rocky MTN team.
They don’t hire riders because of a “feel good” tour. If anyone would do that it would be Yamaha where he won multiple championships, trying to do some branding with winning. I can’t believe I’m even responding to this

Hey, is McGrath available to come back and run the series for Honda? That would generate more publicity than Reed, way more. Why don’t they do that?
McGrath is busy not making money for Kawasaki with his can’t-qualify-for-the-mains ass. What a has been.
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uneasy_rider 12/12/2019 10:22am
12/12/2019 10:22am
Jasper125 wrote:
What if....... ktm offerd him a factory "gasgas" and support to introduce to supercross as a privateer with the backing of his own private sponsors
That crossed my mind as an awesome way to introduce GasGas to SX, but I doubt they are there with development on a new SX worthy machine.
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Jasper125 wrote:
What if....... ktm offerd him a factory "gasgas" and support to introduce to supercross as a privateer with the backing of his own private sponsors
uneasy_rider wrote:
That crossed my mind as an awesome way to introduce GasGas to SX, but I doubt they are there with development on a new SX worthy...
That crossed my mind as an awesome way to introduce GasGas to SX, but I doubt they are there with development on a new SX worthy machine.
KTM+Red bodywork= GasGas
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uneasy_rider 12/12/2019 10:27am
12/12/2019 10:27am
Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Wow. You truly are a euphorian. Listen, I would love to see Reed have an inspirational ride and kick ass, the reality is he would cost...
Wow. You truly are a euphorian. Listen, I would love to see Reed have an inspirational ride and kick ass, the reality is he would cost more money than he can generate. His brand has come and gone. Sorry. Maybe we can invent a supercross senior tour, he can dominate there

Do you lay awake still thinking Stew is gonna show up and start jumping quads? Maybe KTM can bring him in too. Meanwhile, the 10 million watching will see Webb on TV and challenging for a win, which is exactly what KTM pays for because THATS where profit comes from..Winning, just like Charlie Sheen.
tingo wrote:
You don't know that Reed will cost more money than he can generate. I get the feeling he'd race for free just to have the factory...
You don't know that Reed will cost more money than he can generate. I get the feeling he'd race for free just to have the factory bikes, transport, etc paid for. You also don't seem to understand much about PR. Having one of the biggest names in sport under your tent during his farewell tour is a big exposure opportunity. Maybe they don't want the distraction. Maybe they don't like Chad. Who knows? Not you or I. Surely Roger and Ian considered the possibility, and obviously have their reasons for not reaching out to him.
Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I...
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I can’t remember the last time he finished a season.
Yes, I understand PR and these teams probably a little better than you realize.
This is FACTORY KTM. They hire to win, period. Companies like Morotex write a HUGE check for that. I would be PISSED if I’m Motorex, and they hired Reed, instead of moving Baggett up (if they didn’t have a rider) and filling someone else on the Rocky MTN team.
They don’t hire riders because of a “feel good” tour. If anyone would do that it would be Yamaha where he won multiple championships, trying to do some branding with winning. I can’t believe I’m even responding to this

Hey, is McGrath available to come back and run the series for Honda? That would generate more publicity than Reed, way more. Why don’t they do that?
Can you remember when was the last time that the guy with the most main event starts (by a huge margin) didnt qualify for a main? Your comment is beyond ignorant.
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Ray_MXS 12/12/2019 10:29am
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Question wrote:
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as : AC...
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as :

AC
Savatgy
Stewart
Brayton
Baggett
Wilson
(and a bit better than Bowers, Bogle, Bloss, Freise, Hill)

(so not in the tier 1 group of championship contenders: Tomac, Roczen, Musquin, Anderson, Webb, and possibly Osborne)

7th in the championship last year on the JGR bike, you still have nightmares from it Laughing
BroFoSho wrote:
Ha.

All of those riders posted better finishes than Reed did last year
How many podiums did those guys have last year? Reed had one.

We get that you don't like Reed but when you come here with this bullshit it just either shows what a troll you are or you just don't watch and know jack shit about our sport at all.

Either way you can keep your hating to yourself.
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uneasy_rider 12/12/2019 10:39am
12/12/2019 10:39am Edited Date/Time 12/12/2019 2:24pm
Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I...
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I can’t remember the last time he finished a season.
Yes, I understand PR and these teams probably a little better than you realize.
This is FACTORY KTM. They hire to win, period. Companies like Morotex write a HUGE check for that. I would be PISSED if I’m Motorex, and they hired Reed, instead of moving Baggett up (if they didn’t have a rider) and filling someone else on the Rocky MTN team.
They don’t hire riders because of a “feel good” tour. If anyone would do that it would be Yamaha where he won multiple championships, trying to do some branding with winning. I can’t believe I’m even responding to this

Hey, is McGrath available to come back and run the series for Honda? That would generate more publicity than Reed, way more. Why don’t they do that?
tingo wrote:
McGrath is busy not making money for Kawasaki with his can’t-qualify-for-the-mains ass. What a has been.
McGrath a has been?
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CM_84 12/12/2019 10:41am
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uneasy_rider wrote:
McGrath a has been?
I think you missed the sarcasm there
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mattyhamz2 12/12/2019 10:42am
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Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I...
Do you guys realize that Reed will more than likely not make all the mains? He will be in the LCQ more often than not. I can’t remember the last time he finished a season.
Yes, I understand PR and these teams probably a little better than you realize.
This is FACTORY KTM. They hire to win, period. Companies like Morotex write a HUGE check for that. I would be PISSED if I’m Motorex, and they hired Reed, instead of moving Baggett up (if they didn’t have a rider) and filling someone else on the Rocky MTN team.
They don’t hire riders because of a “feel good” tour. If anyone would do that it would be Yamaha where he won multiple championships, trying to do some branding with winning. I can’t believe I’m even responding to this

Hey, is McGrath available to come back and run the series for Honda? That would generate more publicity than Reed, way more. Why don’t they do that?
tingo wrote:
McGrath is busy not making money for Kawasaki with his can’t-qualify-for-the-mains ass. What a has been.
uneasy_rider wrote:
McGrath a has been?
I believe that was sarcasm.
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Aaryn234 12/12/2019 10:48am
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Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Wow. You truly are a euphorian. Listen, I would love to see Reed have an inspirational ride and kick ass, the reality is he would cost...
Wow. You truly are a euphorian. Listen, I would love to see Reed have an inspirational ride and kick ass, the reality is he would cost more money than he can generate. His brand has come and gone. Sorry. Maybe we can invent a supercross senior tour, he can dominate there

Do you lay awake still thinking Stew is gonna show up and start jumping quads? Maybe KTM can bring him in too. Meanwhile, the 10 million watching will see Webb on TV and challenging for a win, which is exactly what KTM pays for because THATS where profit comes from..Winning, just like Charlie Sheen.
CM_84 wrote:
So you originally said there was "not one logical reason they should hire him" he is popular and gets a lot of attention. Do you disagree...
So you originally said there was "not one logical reason they should hire him"
he is popular and gets a lot of attention.
Do you disagree with that statement? and if you do not, is that not a positive reason to hire him? i was merely saying there are pros and cons to hiring him.
i was merely pointing out that your original point was daft.

If he would cost more than he can generate (would love to know how you know what he costs for a fill in ride, and how many sales he would generate)
do you think every rider who doesn't have a chance at winning, and generates less sales than reed should lose their ride? I think there will be about 5 guys left with rides.
Rick Amatuzio wrote:
Ok you’re right. I’m not going to argue, and they should hire the 722 as well. He can rap on the side of the track, sitting...
Ok you’re right. I’m not going to argue, and they should hire the 722 as well. He can rap on the side of the track, sitting on his bike after missing the main, and get all kinds of attention. I really hope Chad Reed gets hired by a factory to appease your man love for him, meanwhile, the people that pay the bills have work to do. Thanks for playing
You realise that Chad, one of the greats of Supercross has announced that this will be his last year right.

You don't think he will be part of the rider introduction at all 17 rounds this year on his good bye tour? You don't think he is going to get mentioned at every single round by Ralph during the broadcast?

You don't think at some point he is going to get a great start and run up front for awhile or near the front, might not be for a whole race, but there will be times he is near the front.

Sure he might not get anywhere near the attention of the current champ on the same bike, but KTM are not going to pay him the same right.

You put Chad on any bike this year, align any brand, they are going to get coverage, between rider intro at the track, some for of TV time pretty much every round, not to mention every other media outlet wanting to cover his farewell tour in some regard.

Name one other available rider who is going to generate that type of attention in 2020 that is not already signed.

I would say RED BULL would like to see two bikes out there all year.

You are the team manager, who would you put out there who is available right now.
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BroFoSho 12/12/2019 12:19pm
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Question wrote:
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as : AC...
Yeah you don't like Reed, so it would bite your tongue to say on a factory equipment he is in the same group as :

AC
Savatgy
Stewart
Brayton
Baggett
Wilson
(and a bit better than Bowers, Bogle, Bloss, Freise, Hill)

(so not in the tier 1 group of championship contenders: Tomac, Roczen, Musquin, Anderson, Webb, and possibly Osborne)

7th in the championship last year on the JGR bike, you still have nightmares from it Laughing
BroFoSho wrote:
Ha.

All of those riders posted better finishes than Reed did last year
Ray_MXS wrote:
How many podiums did those guys have last year? Reed had one. We get that you don't like Reed but when you come here with this...
How many podiums did those guys have last year? Reed had one.

We get that you don't like Reed but when you come here with this bullshit it just either shows what a troll you are or you just don't watch and know jack shit about our sport at all.

Either way you can keep your hating to yourself.
Well without looking detailed results... off the top of my head, Bagget had 5 podiums... including a win.

Not to bag on Reed, but it would be an insult to say that Bagget is at the same level as Reed. All of those guys are on factory/solid equipment because they've earned it
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davis224 12/12/2019 12:25pm
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BroFoSho wrote:
Ha.

All of those riders posted better finishes than Reed did last year
Ray_MXS wrote:
How many podiums did those guys have last year? Reed had one. We get that you don't like Reed but when you come here with this...
How many podiums did those guys have last year? Reed had one.

We get that you don't like Reed but when you come here with this bullshit it just either shows what a troll you are or you just don't watch and know jack shit about our sport at all.

Either way you can keep your hating to yourself.
BroFoSho wrote:
Well without looking detailed results... off the top of my head, Bagget had 5 podiums... including a win. Not to bag on Reed, but it would...
Well without looking detailed results... off the top of my head, Bagget had 5 podiums... including a win.

Not to bag on Reed, but it would be an insult to say that Bagget is at the same level as Reed. All of those guys are on factory/solid equipment because they've earned it
I'd say Baggett's current ceiling is higher, but he has his fair share of very average rides too that don't result in "What happened to him that he finished 10th?" I'd put Reed slightly below Dean Wilson. It's a great day if they podium, but also not surprising if they're 12th. I'd put Reed towards the bottom of that group, but still in that group.
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byronrotax 12/12/2019 12:33pm
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ga_pike wrote:
She mentions "truck and trailer" followed by "loading up semi". If he's going this alone, why the need for a full semi? Wouldn't it be more...
She mentions "truck and trailer" followed by "loading up semi". If he's going this alone, why the need for a full semi? Wouldn't it be more cost effective to run smaller truck/trailer combo?
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More room for ego.













This is a joke. I'm glad to see the old man do it on his terms.
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tcannon521 12/12/2019 12:36pm
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Jasper125 wrote:
What if....... ktm offerd him a factory "gasgas" and support to introduce to supercross as a privateer with the backing of his own private sponsors
Last Braaap wrote:
That idea is so crazy that it might work out.
tek14 wrote:
Since when GasGas 450cc been added AMA homologation list? Bike that its not even out yet.
A1 is not enduro event.
Pipe dream but they would theoretically still have their 1 year production rule exemption and Chad could ride pretty much anything he wanted and how he wanted it.
Dirty Points 12/12/2019 12:46pm
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IMO, Reed carries some personal baggage, as would anyone at this point in his career... But Chad is still reasonably competitive with young pups, and is arguably the most significant rider in the whole field. That's HUGE.

If an enormous international personality who has been one of our most important athletes EVER doesn't merit a paid ride on his farewell tour, it is hard to argue that the sport can support generally ANY rider.
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uneasy_rider 12/12/2019 1:04pm
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uneasy_rider wrote:
McGrath a has been?
CM_84 wrote:
I think you missed the sarcasm there
Evidently, you never know on Vital.........
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CM_84 12/12/2019 3:12pm
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uneasy_rider wrote:
Evidently, you never know on Vital.........
Haha fair point. The level of stupid in this forum never ceases to amaze!
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Come on. He has never not qualified for a main. Its that record good enough?
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Either way. Hopefully we see Reed as a regular at the races. Indoors and out. Not heard anything on his next chapter.
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or table clothes...
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SPYGUY 12/12/2019 9:10pm
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For those of you that think Reed shouldn't be out there, it is also your opinion then that any rider he beats should also hang it up?
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Does anyone notice how old Ricky never answers peoples questions?
some of the ones you missed ricky boy:
-Is his popularity A logical reason to hire him (independent to the also logical reasons not to hire him)
-Should anyone who is not capable of winning lose theor factory rides?
-Who would you have hired?
-Should anyone that Reed beats either be fired or lose their jobs?



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Camp332 12/13/2019 7:09am
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CM_84 wrote:
Does anyone notice how old Ricky never answers peoples questions? some of the ones you missed ricky boy: -Is his popularity A logical reason to hire...
Does anyone notice how old Ricky never answers peoples questions?
some of the ones you missed ricky boy:
-Is his popularity A logical reason to hire him (independent to the also logical reasons not to hire him)
-Should anyone who is not capable of winning lose theor factory rides?
-Who would you have hired?
-Should anyone that Reed beats either be fired or lose their jobs?



Be honest, you were hitting those Foster's oil cans before you made this post, Mate!
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CM_84 12/13/2019 7:16am
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CM_84 wrote:
Does anyone notice how old Ricky never answers peoples questions? some of the ones you missed ricky boy: -Is his popularity A logical reason to hire...
Does anyone notice how old Ricky never answers peoples questions?
some of the ones you missed ricky boy:
-Is his popularity A logical reason to hire him (independent to the also logical reasons not to hire him)
-Should anyone who is not capable of winning lose theor factory rides?
-Who would you have hired?
-Should anyone that Reed beats either be fired or lose their jobs?



Camp332 wrote:
Be honest, you were hitting those Foster's oil cans before you made this post, Mate!
Australian's don't drink Fosters
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Camp332 12/13/2019 7:20am
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CM_84 wrote:
Does anyone notice how old Ricky never answers peoples questions? some of the ones you missed ricky boy: -Is his popularity A logical reason to hire...
Does anyone notice how old Ricky never answers peoples questions?
some of the ones you missed ricky boy:
-Is his popularity A logical reason to hire him (independent to the also logical reasons not to hire him)
-Should anyone who is not capable of winning lose theor factory rides?
-Who would you have hired?
-Should anyone that Reed beats either be fired or lose their jobs?



Camp332 wrote:
Be honest, you were hitting those Foster's oil cans before you made this post, Mate!
CM_84 wrote:
Australian's don't drink Fosters
My best friend and I used to swipe his old man's Fosters out of the garage when we were teenagers. I don't blame you guys for not drinking that kangaroo pee! Laughing

Anyway, what's up with the Reed to KTM rumor? Is it going to happen?

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