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But if you flatly think there is "no logical reason" you are a fool. Honestly you have no idea how the world works.
It sounds like KTM didn't go that way, so obviously they didn't think the pros outweighed the cons. but it doesn't mean there wasn't pros.
Reed was great. He is worth 30$ million dollars, the sport has done ALOT for him. I hope he has a great season, but he isn’t factory material. KTM wins championships, they don’t dick around with has-beens like the Minnesota Vikings.
Why do you think FOX still pay him big bucks? are you saying they are fools?
So if they opt to go for a fill in, can you please enlighten me as to who they are going to pick up who is going to battle for the championship? there are a lot of guys on factory bikes who realistically have no shot at the championship. I assume you think they should all get fired too?
"KTM wins championships" there is a bit more too that. KTM sells motorcycles. That is their first priority.winning championships aids that. but there are more ways to win a championship.
I have a question for you, do you think senior management at KTM Austria would rather win a supercross championship, or make a big fat profit? where do you think their priority would lay if given an ultimatum?
This is a joke. I'm glad to see the old man do it on his terms.
KTM doesn’t need Reed on a bike to help sale bikes. Think they are doing just fine in that department. What do they owe him? Not to mention he probably doesn’t come cheap. It would basically be for marketing purposes only. Not like he is going to be a podium threat every weekend. Bad as it sounds, the sport is trying to send a message.
Would like to see Reed move more into a manager or team ambassador role than scrounge together rides at the final hr every year. Or burn through his hard earned money. What’s really the pay out for a “final tour” anyway. But hey it’s his he can do with it what he likes.
Do you lay awake still thinking Stew is gonna show up and start jumping quads? Maybe KTM can bring him in too. Meanwhile, the 10 million watching will see Webb on TV and challenging for a win, which is exactly what KTM pays for because THATS where profit comes from..Winning, just like Charlie Sheen.
So ill ask you the same question, should every factory rider be sacked if they aren't a "podium threat every weekend"
I have never said KTM should hire him. i just think its laughable that someone said there was "no logical reason to hire him" there are lots of logical reasons. although ultimately it sounds like KTM thought there weren't enough.
he is popular and gets a lot of attention.
Do you disagree with that statement? and if you do not, is that not a positive reason to hire him? i was merely saying there are pros and cons to hiring him.
i was merely pointing out that your original point was daft.
If he would cost more than he can generate (would love to know how you know what he costs for a fill in ride, and how many sales he would generate)
do you think every rider who doesn't have a chance at winning, and generates less sales than reed should lose their ride? I think there will be about 5 guys left with rides.
Pit Row
Marketing/branding is not really like that. It is not just wins otherwise there would be 4 riders on the grid at A1 (Tomac, Roczen, Anderson, Webb).
Reed was 7th mid championship last year when he got injured in a 1st turn/1st lane pill up, and was really finding his grove after his podium. He got more TV time and more sympathy than most guys from 5th to 15th, just because he is the fan favorite.
In my mind, it is more JGR (and even more Suzuki) who totally missed the shot, because everything was lined up to transition him as a great ambassador/developer/test rider/key account manager to find new sponsors/or product manager (for instance to launch their own suspension preparation brand), or even as manager or nascar driver for a try.
A great farewell tour & results was on paper potentially at least a half of the tv time that Webb will get. Back to KTM, so far nobody know if Webb will be healthy all sx season, and if he will manage to win the championship again, as well as if anything happen to Webb then KTM will have an empty truck until the outdoors. Fortunately if this happens they still have Husky, Rocky Mountain, and the teams in europe.
I only see 2 reasons for this no deal :
1. they want to put 100% effort 100% focus on Webb to wrap up a second championship, which is very understandable
2. Reed did not train at all for a few months and injured some ribs in Paris mid November so such a late preparation may have been rightfully considered as a risk to be really at 100% from the start of the season.
Right now, on a private bike, unfortunately you will be right, he will be top 15-top 22, a bit like on the private husky, but no need to try to fool yourself or anybody, Reed at 100% (maybe from February) and on the factory KTM would have been top 7 in the championship, like in any championship on a factory bike he has participated in. If you don't believe it, next time i will post the vault.
Yes, I understand PR and these teams probably a little better than you realize.
This is FACTORY KTM. They hire to win, period. Companies like Morotex write a HUGE check for that. I would be PISSED if I’m Motorex, and they hired Reed, instead of moving Baggett up (if they didn’t have a rider) and filling someone else on the Rocky MTN team.
They don’t hire riders because of a “feel good” tour. If anyone would do that it would be Yamaha where he won multiple championships, trying to do some branding with winning. I can’t believe I’m even responding to this
Hey, is McGrath available to come back and run the series for Honda? That would generate more publicity than Reed, way more. Why don’t they do that?
he was a 7-15 guy last year.
I don't care either way if they hire him
Again, the whole reason I started arguing with you i because you said there is "not one logical reason to hire him"
do you not realise how fucking stupid that statement is?
As I said before, there are reasons to hire him, and reasons not to. by the sounds of it KTM thought there were more of the latter than the former. but your statement is still dumb.
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