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gt80rider wrote:
Someone forgot the word "sometimes" in the title....
My bad lol. But, the level of competition is stout. He's been doin well, hopefully an sx title comes his way. I've been partial to the green bikes since that #70 on a 125.
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Hope we all enjoyed "Beast Mode" yesterday, up by 50 with three to go, we may not see him again this Outdoor season,and that's just SadSad
Those 2 motos he put together yesterday were just bad ass! Glad I have it recorded.
His next butt patch, "ALPHA BEAST"!
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TbonesPop 7/28/2019 8:21am
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SwingHard wrote:
Hope we all enjoyed "Beast Mode" yesterday, up by 50 with three to go, we may not see him again this Outdoor season,and that's just Sad:(...
Hope we all enjoyed "Beast Mode" yesterday, up by 50 with three to go, we may not see him again this Outdoor season,and that's just SadSad
Those 2 motos he put together yesterday were just bad ass! Glad I have it recorded.
His next butt patch, "ALPHA BEAST"!
Good point. My hope is that he closes the series out a race early and then goes to Indiana to show everyone who's the Alpha with no fucks given. But you never know. When he feels good on the bike, he's in beast mode. I think it has more to do with comfort than points lead in the series.
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The more Tomac wins the more he is inconsistent, he crashes to much, he's a head case, can't handle the pressure, gets up too slow, his...
The more Tomac wins the more he is inconsistent, he crashes to much, he's a head case, can't handle the pressure, gets up too slow, his pants fall off, Roczens faster, Marvins going to win this year, He doest have a SX title, he can't start, Baggetts gonna break him. He takes too many chances, He doesn't try hard enough. Hes a chocker,He doesn't deserve to be on MXDN team. All things I have read over and over on Vital.

Just for fun I checked his outdoor stats from 2013 to current.
250 class. 12 races, 12 podiums, 7 wins. 1 250 title.
450 class. 56 races, 45 podiums, 21 wins. 3 450 titles ( most likely).
One more win and he's 4th on list off all time premier class wins. 6 wins away from 3rd all time.

Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class GP in about 30 years if I'm not mistaken).

Most exciting racer to watch since Stewart and Carmichael.

He's one of the most consistent and highest win rate riders in the history of the sport. And he does it in MX, SX, even GPs.

And it looks like he has a couple more years of wins left in him. Enjoy it he's one of the few greats.

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Was awesome today but "Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class...
Was awesome today
but "Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class GP in about 30 years if I'm not mistaken)."
-Villopoto?
Villipoto right. Ok 2nd rider in about 30. Can't remember who was last guy before him. RJ at Carlsbad? Did Lechein win a 500 USGP at Hollister or someplace in CA ? I think Chandler was last guy to win 500 GP outside of US. ( Besides Villipoto , almost forgot him again )

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Chris_Buehler 7/28/2019 10:45am
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SCR wrote:
The more Tomac wins the more he is inconsistent, he crashes to much, he's a head case, can't handle the pressure, gets up too slow, his...
The more Tomac wins the more he is inconsistent, he crashes to much, he's a head case, can't handle the pressure, gets up too slow, his pants fall off, Roczens faster, Marvins going to win this year, He doest have a SX title, he can't start, Baggetts gonna break him. He takes too many chances, He doesn't try hard enough. Hes a chocker,He doesn't deserve to be on MXDN team. All things I have read over and over on Vital.

Just for fun I checked his outdoor stats from 2013 to current.
250 class. 12 races, 12 podiums, 7 wins. 1 250 title.
450 class. 56 races, 45 podiums, 21 wins. 3 450 titles ( most likely).
One more win and he's 4th on list off all time premier class wins. 6 wins away from 3rd all time.

Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class GP in about 30 years if I'm not mistaken).

Most exciting racer to watch since Stewart and Carmichael.

He's one of the most consistent and highest win rate riders in the history of the sport. And he does it in MX, SX, even GPs.

And it looks like he has a couple more years of wins left in him. Enjoy it he's one of the few greats.

CPR wrote:
Was awesome today but "Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class...
Was awesome today
but "Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class GP in about 30 years if I'm not mistaken)."
-Villopoto?
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Villipoto right. Ok 2nd rider in about 30. Can't remember who was last guy before him. RJ at Carlsbad? Did Lechein win a 500 USGP at...
Villipoto right. Ok 2nd rider in about 30. Can't remember who was last guy before him. RJ at Carlsbad? Did Lechein win a 500 USGP at Hollister or someplace in CA ? I think Chandler was last guy to win 500 GP outside of US. ( Besides Villipoto , almost forgot him again )
Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on the MxDN team
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CPR wrote:
Was awesome today but "Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class...
Was awesome today
but "Grand Prix. 3 races, 2 wins, 1 second. Won 5 of 6 motos. ( Only US rider to win a premier class GP in about 30 years if I'm not mistaken)."
-Villopoto?
SCR wrote:
Villipoto right. Ok 2nd rider in about 30. Can't remember who was last guy before him. RJ at Carlsbad? Did Lechein win a 500 USGP at...
Villipoto right. Ok 2nd rider in about 30. Can't remember who was last guy before him. RJ at Carlsbad? Did Lechein win a 500 USGP at Hollister or someplace in CA ? I think Chandler was last guy to win 500 GP outside of US. ( Besides Villipoto , almost forgot him again )
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Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on...
Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on the MxDN team
Windham won the 99 250 usgp at Budds also. 250 was the premier class by then.
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Chris_Buehler 7/28/2019 10:56am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Windham won the 99 250 usgp at Budds also. 250 was the premier class by then.
Yup that one was in my head. I was thinking it was at Dilla though
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SwingHard wrote:
Hope we all enjoyed "Beast Mode" yesterday, up by 50 with three to go, we may not see him again this Outdoor season,and that's just Sad:(...
Hope we all enjoyed "Beast Mode" yesterday, up by 50 with three to go, we may not see him again this Outdoor season,and that's just SadSad
Those 2 motos he put together yesterday were just bad ass! Glad I have it recorded.
His next butt patch, "ALPHA BEAST"!
I think we will see it if he is feeling it.
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Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
ctbale wrote:
Ignerint coment
But more than likely true.
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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
ctbale wrote:
Ignerint coment
BobbyM wrote:
But more than likely true.
Bobby, you've got a little sperm on your beard.......!
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Ranman68 7/28/2019 1:08pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
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Villipoto right. Ok 2nd rider in about 30. Can't remember who was last guy before him. RJ at Carlsbad? Did Lechein win a 500 USGP at...
Villipoto right. Ok 2nd rider in about 30. Can't remember who was last guy before him. RJ at Carlsbad? Did Lechein win a 500 USGP at Hollister or someplace in CA ? I think Chandler was last guy to win 500 GP outside of US. ( Besides Villipoto , almost forgot him again )
Chris_Buehler wrote:
Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on...
Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on the MxDN team
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Windham won the 99 250 usgp at Budds also. 250 was the premier class by then.
Just talking about premier class ( 500,450). There have been a number of US riders that won 125 and 250 GPS and championships.
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Ranman68 7/28/2019 1:26pm
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He's got to be considered on another level now. He's broken and still dominated. Imagine how bad he'd have crushed the field by if he wasn't...
He's got to be considered on another level now. He's broken and still dominated.

Imagine how bad he'd have crushed the field by if he wasn't broken by Cooper........

(This Cooksey gaffe has some potential to be awesome)
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Dude, will you relax with that nonsense? Anyone with half a brain can tell Coop is just lulling them into a fall sense of security. He's...
Dude, will you relax with that nonsense?

Anyone with half a brain can tell Coop is just lulling them into a fall sense of security. He's just waiting to unleash the Alpha at just the right moment...
I'm a Webb fan, but that comment is just too good to deny. But then again, I'm a Webb fan that never proclaimed Webb to be the king alpha shit. Just that he's getting better and gonna be tough to beat in the future. To be honest, I'm just as much as Tomac fan, so the last two wekends have been good for me 👊👊👊. Yeah I reckon Coop still has a little ways to go before he's ready for Tomac outdoors.
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mxb2 7/28/2019 1:30pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
He nevers gives credit to tomac, yea he sucks. Lol. But quick to give kroc a pat on the back for fading.
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Ranman68 7/28/2019 2:18pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
mxb2 wrote:
He nevers gives credit to tomac, yea he sucks. Lol. But quick to give kroc a pat on the back for fading.
The dude is a moron/hypocrite who makes a very unlikely prediction on the outcome of a hypothetical race. I won't say Tomac could walk on Herlings on hard pack, but I will say I'd put money on it. Even a fully fit Herlings.
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Frère Jacques 7/28/2019 2:21pm
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I root for tomac. I actually find him likable whigh some don’t. And I love that he trains by himself
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Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
mxb2 wrote:
He nevers gives credit to tomac, yea he sucks. Lol. But quick to give kroc a pat on the back for fading.
Ranman68 wrote:
The dude is a moron/hypocrite who makes a very unlikely prediction on the outcome of a hypothetical race. I won't say Tomac could walk on Herlings...
The dude is a moron/hypocrite who makes a very unlikely prediction on the outcome of a hypothetical race. I won't say Tomac could walk on Herlings on hard pack, but I will say I'd put money on it. Even a fully fit Herlings.
Exactly, never. gives any credit. Same dude who thought alessi and chandler were the best ever. Lol. Goes to show you the mentality.
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Chris_Buehler 7/28/2019 2:51pm
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Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on...
Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on the MxDN team
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Windham won the 99 250 usgp at Budds also. 250 was the premier class by then.
SCR wrote:
Just talking about premier class ( 500,450). There have been a number of US riders that won 125 and 250 GPS and championships.
How is the 250 class in 99 not the premier class?

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Chris_Buehler wrote:
Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on...
Stanton won USGP's. Several I believe. Stepped down to a rare 125 appearence one yr because he was proving a point he deserved to be on the MxDN team
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Windham won the 99 250 usgp at Budds also. 250 was the premier class by then.
SCR wrote:
Just talking about premier class ( 500,450). There have been a number of US riders that won 125 and 250 GPS and championships.
By 1999, the 250 class really was the premier class on both sides of the pond......

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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
mxb2 wrote:
He nevers gives credit to tomac, yea he sucks. Lol. But quick to give kroc a pat on the back for fading.
BoobyM still believes the hype.......
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Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
mxb2 wrote:
He nevers gives credit to tomac, yea he sucks. Lol. But quick to give kroc a pat on the back for fading.
APLMAN99 wrote:
BoobyM still believes the hype.......
Some people are stuck in the past.
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GODZILLA 7/28/2019 3:25pm
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Man, you didn't recognize Mathilde?
Laughing

Everytime I hear Weigandt and Langston talking about Tomac's "shark attack", I picture that scene...
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SCR wrote:
Just talking about premier class ( 500,450). There have been a number of US riders that won 125 and 250 GPS and championships.
Today's 450 or MXGP class traces back to the 250s. It was the premier class by the early 90s as that's where the bulk of factory support and best riders were.
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Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
mxb2 wrote:
He nevers gives credit to tomac, yea he sucks. Lol. But quick to give kroc a pat on the back for fading.
Ranman68 wrote:
The dude is a moron/hypocrite who makes a very unlikely prediction on the outcome of a hypothetical race. I won't say Tomac could walk on Herlings...
The dude is a moron/hypocrite who makes a very unlikely prediction on the outcome of a hypothetical race. I won't say Tomac could walk on Herlings on hard pack, but I will say I'd put money on it. Even a fully fit Herlings.
I'm hoping we get a chance to put them both on the line at Ernee. I'm planning to go, just hoping it happens...
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Stoop 7/28/2019 4:22pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
Laughing Tomac couldn’t even beat Prado riding a 250 on his home track and you think he is better than Herlings?
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mxb2 7/28/2019 4:42pm
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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
Stoop wrote:
Laughing Tomac couldn’t even beat Prado riding a 250 on his home track and you think he is better than Herlings?
Why did coldenhoff beat herlings then? So the mxon proves who the best dudes are? Correct? You really think kroc is a 18th place guy? According to your theory glenn is the fmotp. Now.
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BobbyM wrote:
Herlings, with only one week on the bike would mop the floor with him.
Ranman68 wrote:
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and...
Get outta here with that goofy shit. Herlings is too busy being ON THE FLOOR and carried off the track. Tomac won multiple sx mains and clinching his 3rd straight outdoor title with multiple wins while Herlings is just posting on Instagram. Even IF Herlings were healthy, Tomac would kick his ass to the moon on a hard pack track. I'd bet money on it any day.
Stoop wrote:
Laughing Tomac couldn’t even beat Prado riding a 250 on his home track and you think he is better than Herlings?
MXdN is an awful yardstick to measure who the "best in the world" is. It's a one-off race with a one-off format. Crazy shit can and does happen every year. Like mxb2 said, is Coldenhoff now the FMOTP because he spanked Herlings?
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hamncheeze 7/28/2019 4:59pm
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Said this in another thread but so far on the 2019 KX450 I think we've seen Eli blazing fast on the harder tracks like Pala, Lakewood and Washougal, but a real mixed bag on the softer and more rutted tracks. Seems like he finds his comfort on the bike much more easily on the harder surface.
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jorgechavez 7/28/2019 5:00pm
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Stoop wrote:
Laughing Tomac couldn’t even beat Prado riding a 250 on his home track and you think he is better than Herlings?
In what world is Red Bud Tomac’s home track? There’s probably like a 2000km distance between where Tomac lives and where Red Bud is.

I’m noticing a trend in people who like to shit on Tomac and being unable to use or acknowledge facts.
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mxb2 7/28/2019 5:12pm
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Stoop wrote:
Laughing Tomac couldn’t even beat Prado riding a 250 on his home track and you think he is better than Herlings?
jorgechavez wrote:
In what world is Red Bud Tomac’s home track? There’s probably like a 2000km distance between where Tomac lives and where Red Bud is. I’m noticing...
In what world is Red Bud Tomac’s home track? There’s probably like a 2000km distance between where Tomac lives and where Red Bud is.

I’m noticing a trend in people who like to shit on Tomac and being unable to use or acknowledge facts.
Krocs home track also, how did he do lol. Not mentioned that whole weekend. People need to make up their minds, does this race count or not, as fmotp. Because glenn just answered the question. Glenn never podiumed all year at the gp s. But beat the champ. So whats it gonna be? Cant have it both ways.
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