Derek Harris – good/bad reviews

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I would be the last guy to defend how this Harris fellow has treated some (many?) customers. But I do think that people can get carried away in the spirit of righteous indignation and start thinking that since he fucked up, any sort of insult is fair game. That’s what I don’t agree with.
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7/21/2019 10:31am
MPJC wrote:
I would be the last guy to defend how this Harris fellow has treated some (many?) customers. But I do think that people can get carried...
I would be the last guy to defend how this Harris fellow has treated some (many?) customers. But I do think that people can get carried away in the spirit of righteous indignation and start thinking that since he fucked up, any sort of insult is fair game. That’s what I don’t agree with.
Yes, the mob mentality was quite prevalent also.
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moscrop940 wrote:
Let me be clear that I started the 2nd thread, and I can assure you did NOT lock or edit a single thing on that thread...
Let me be clear that I started the 2nd thread, and I can assure you did NOT lock or edit a single thing on that thread

I just woke up to this and was shocked to see that the thread was gutted and locked

I don’t know what’s goin on, but something is....
GuyB wrote:
Sometimes I edit to the meat of the subject, and get rid of the fluff and nonsense.
That is bullshit. I merely stated how my experience with Derek was less than stellar. No name calling, no bitching, even mentioned how the bike eventually ran well. If you cannot take someone insulting your buddy, tell him to have better business practices. You are actually hurting Derek by throwing it all under the rug.
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BobPA wrote:
That is bullshit. I merely stated how my experience with Derek was less than stellar. No name calling, no bitching, even mentioned how the bike eventually...
That is bullshit. I merely stated how my experience with Derek was less than stellar. No name calling, no bitching, even mentioned how the bike eventually ran well. If you cannot take someone insulting your buddy, tell him to have better business practices. You are actually hurting Derek by throwing it all under the rug.
You're making assumptions. Stop doing that. I've never met the guy, and don't know the guy.
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mooch wrote:
Bummer the original was dumped by OP as people need to know what shops they need to stay away from. Has anyone here had a positive...
Bummer the original was dumped by OP as people need to know what shops they need to stay away from.

Has anyone here had a positive experience with work done by Derek Harris?
Derick has build many of my bikes and Is far from a scammer. He does very high end race motors for many pros and helps the MX community out alot. I actually talked to the guy who started the tread and it was a big mis communication so he deleted the post and apologized for the trouble he started..

Communications is the key and sometimes gets the best of us. But seems like some people on here live to bash peolel or shops when they don't know the whole story. Always 2 sides to a story.

Everone need to chill out and just ride some dirt bikes.. Lol.
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Yamyz144 wrote:
Derick has build many of my bikes and Is far from a scammer. He does very high end race motors for many pros and helps the...
Derick has build many of my bikes and Is far from a scammer. He does very high end race motors for many pros and helps the MX community out alot. I actually talked to the guy who started the tread and it was a big mis communication so he deleted the post and apologized for the trouble he started..

Communications is the key and sometimes gets the best of us. But seems like some people on here live to bash peolel or shops when they don't know the whole story. Always 2 sides to a story.

Everone need to chill out and just ride some dirt bikes.. Lol.
I think you should be preaching the communication thing to your buddy Derek.
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7/21/2019 10:52am Edited Date/Time 7/21/2019 10:59am
mooch wrote:
Bummer the original was dumped by OP as people need to know what shops they need to stay away from. Has anyone here had a positive...
Bummer the original was dumped by OP as people need to know what shops they need to stay away from.

Has anyone here had a positive experience with work done by Derek Harris?
Yamyz144 wrote:
Derick has build many of my bikes and Is far from a scammer. He does very high end race motors for many pros and helps the...
Derick has build many of my bikes and Is far from a scammer. He does very high end race motors for many pros and helps the MX community out alot. I actually talked to the guy who started the tread and it was a big mis communication so he deleted the post and apologized for the trouble he started..

Communications is the key and sometimes gets the best of us. But seems like some people on here live to bash peolel or shops when they don't know the whole story. Always 2 sides to a story.

Everone need to chill out and just ride some dirt bikes.. Lol.
can You ask Derek Harris what went wrong with my situation please? 2 week job took 2 months to realize something was wrong, agreed to purchase something in leiu, 6 weeks later it finally showed up after he dodged calls and emails, and knew he had blown away a riding vacation I had planned. Product was junk, upset I wanted a refund, and went to his Instagram to post a video trying to belittle me , “without mentioning my name so it was ok”, but left out all of the relevant facts.

someone else was still waiting on an ECU from 2016 if I remember correctly as well.

If you got something out of him in 2 weeks go buy a lottery ticket. Heck by two and send me one.

By the way, your “communication” line reads very similar to an email Harris had written to me attempting to save face when our transaction went so foul he realized he had no excuses left to provide, Jus’ Sayin’....
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BobPA wrote:
That is bullshit. I merely stated how my experience with Derek was less than stellar. No name calling, no bitching, even mentioned how the bike eventually...
That is bullshit. I merely stated how my experience with Derek was less than stellar. No name calling, no bitching, even mentioned how the bike eventually ran well. If you cannot take someone insulting your buddy, tell him to have better business practices. You are actually hurting Derek by throwing it all under the rug.
GuyB wrote:
You're making assumptions. Stop doing that. I've never met the guy, and don't know the guy.
Then why delete my comment?
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mooch wrote:
Bummer the original was dumped by OP as people need to know what shops they need to stay away from. Has anyone here had a positive...
Bummer the original was dumped by OP as people need to know what shops they need to stay away from.

Has anyone here had a positive experience with work done by Derek Harris?
Yamyz144 wrote:
Derick has build many of my bikes and Is far from a scammer. He does very high end race motors for many pros and helps the...
Derick has build many of my bikes and Is far from a scammer. He does very high end race motors for many pros and helps the MX community out alot. I actually talked to the guy who started the tread and it was a big mis communication so he deleted the post and apologized for the trouble he started..

Communications is the key and sometimes gets the best of us. But seems like some people on here live to bash peolel or shops when they don't know the whole story. Always 2 sides to a story.

Everone need to chill out and just ride some dirt bikes.. Lol.
I bet almost everyone that read the original post would disagree with you
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So what was the resolution?
Did the neighbor come up and ship his parts back, as was being discussed?
Mx Tech offered to do it for free, probably the route i woulda took. Damn cool for him to offer that. Thats about as far as i got in the original thread.
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Question wrote:
I don't know the beef exactly, but if I understand the situation, the first thread was about a year ago ; from what I can remember...
I don't know the beef exactly, but if I understand the situation, the first thread was about a year ago ; from what I can remember, the original OP aka "cry baby" was mad because he didn't receive his engine quickly enough (for him) (because he actually did not send paiement quickly enough too), so while Dereck Harris was all week at Loretta (with limited internet access), the original OP posted something negative about him.

If it is that, to call an engine builder a scam because he didn't do an engine from a new customer over a week time frame, then I suggest the OP to send it to bigger engine builders so he can wait 1 or 2 months and cry all over the place... Learning patience is priceless, and will be required all life long when waiting to get promoted for a couple of years for instance. Learning respect can be paid at a bigger price too sometimes.
moscrop940 wrote:
O get off your high horse and stop prentending to be a hero.....Telling someone they will need patience in life is a load of horse shit...
O get off your high horse and stop prentending to be a hero.....Telling someone they will need patience in life is a load of horse shit when it comes to this situation
5 months for an engine build is insane, not to mention this Harris clown was strong arming the OP and belittling him because he had his engine, therefore he had the power.....that is until he got blasted on a public forum and his business practices were coming to light more and more every second as other customers were sharing their similar experiences.
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned.

A 2nd (and 3rd) thread has been created then, which i didn't see, that was from what i understand now talking about an engine that had been sent 5 months ago. This is indeed too long, and from what I am reading the way it has been handled has not been great either. I hope it can be sorted out for this case and maybe others as it for sure tarnishes his reputation. It is unfortunate as to me he is probably the most knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to building a fast engine.

5 months is (way) too long we all agree on that, but patience is also something the first OP 1 year ago in the thread i mentioned did not have and here it was not justified to be mad, which is why I posted.

In all cases, delays happens dealing with small businesses where the owners does everything, but also sometimes with big companies. With internet shopping people tend to think they will be delivered the next day. That is why I was talking about patience, and just for bikes I also had my share, for instance waiting 3 months for a new bike making me race a rented one and putting me out of a championship contention, 14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe, 3 months of wait for a special pipe, 3 months to receive some special kit and parts, 2 month wait for a gearbox failure while leading a championship and making me race a bike I sold before (and almost killing myself because I OTB hard and took the bike and peg due to different suspensions), etc etc and just for bikes ... Anyway we all know that to have one bike working we need at least 2 bikes as 1 is always in the shop.

Now back to the topic, the 5 months engine, it would be great if Dereck Harris would come here and tell us what happened.
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Question wrote:
I don't know the beef exactly, but if I understand the situation, the first thread was about a year ago ; from what I can remember...
I don't know the beef exactly, but if I understand the situation, the first thread was about a year ago ; from what I can remember, the original OP aka "cry baby" was mad because he didn't receive his engine quickly enough (for him) (because he actually did not send paiement quickly enough too), so while Dereck Harris was all week at Loretta (with limited internet access), the original OP posted something negative about him.

If it is that, to call an engine builder a scam because he didn't do an engine from a new customer over a week time frame, then I suggest the OP to send it to bigger engine builders so he can wait 1 or 2 months and cry all over the place... Learning patience is priceless, and will be required all life long when waiting to get promoted for a couple of years for instance. Learning respect can be paid at a bigger price too sometimes.
moscrop940 wrote:
O get off your high horse and stop prentending to be a hero.....Telling someone they will need patience in life is a load of horse shit...
O get off your high horse and stop prentending to be a hero.....Telling someone they will need patience in life is a load of horse shit when it comes to this situation
5 months for an engine build is insane, not to mention this Harris clown was strong arming the OP and belittling him because he had his engine, therefore he had the power.....that is until he got blasted on a public forum and his business practices were coming to light more and more every second as other customers were sharing their similar experiences.
Question wrote:
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned. A 2nd (and 3rd) thread...
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned.

A 2nd (and 3rd) thread has been created then, which i didn't see, that was from what i understand now talking about an engine that had been sent 5 months ago. This is indeed too long, and from what I am reading the way it has been handled has not been great either. I hope it can be sorted out for this case and maybe others as it for sure tarnishes his reputation. It is unfortunate as to me he is probably the most knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to building a fast engine.

5 months is (way) too long we all agree on that, but patience is also something the first OP 1 year ago in the thread i mentioned did not have and here it was not justified to be mad, which is why I posted.

In all cases, delays happens dealing with small businesses where the owners does everything, but also sometimes with big companies. With internet shopping people tend to think they will be delivered the next day. That is why I was talking about patience, and just for bikes I also had my share, for instance waiting 3 months for a new bike making me race a rented one and putting me out of a championship contention, 14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe, 3 months of wait for a special pipe, 3 months to receive some special kit and parts, 2 month wait for a gearbox failure while leading a championship and making me race a bike I sold before (and almost killing myself because I OTB hard and took the bike and peg due to different suspensions), etc etc and just for bikes ... Anyway we all know that to have one bike working we need at least 2 bikes as 1 is always in the shop.

Now back to the topic, the 5 months engine, it would be great if Dereck Harris would come here and tell us what happened.
If you havent read the original thread ,please stop posting about it. There was FAR more issues and FAR more people posting with similar and worse problems they experienced with Harris. Not just one guy with one problem, it was a ridiculous amount.
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Alright maybe I’m wrong here, but the only conclusion I’ve drawn from this whole situation is that Derek just enjoys working on higher end projects like building full blown race engines more than joe blow’s old 2 stroke that needs a rebuild. And I’m not defending him but when I look at his website I don’t think this is the guy I send a motor to to get a crank replaced or a cylinder replated or anything to that nature. Also, putting a simple job like a bottom end on the back burner for 5 months is ridiculous. For a guy like him that is easy money to be made. Also I’m glad I saw this because this shop was my first choice to get my cr125 bored out. Now I don’t think so...
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Sounds like you’d be sure to be getting bored out in one way or another.
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Question wrote:
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned. A 2nd (and 3rd) thread...
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned.

A 2nd (and 3rd) thread has been created then, which i didn't see, that was from what i understand now talking about an engine that had been sent 5 months ago. This is indeed too long, and from what I am reading the way it has been handled has not been great either. I hope it can be sorted out for this case and maybe others as it for sure tarnishes his reputation. It is unfortunate as to me he is probably the most knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to building a fast engine.

5 months is (way) too long we all agree on that, but patience is also something the first OP 1 year ago in the thread i mentioned did not have and here it was not justified to be mad, which is why I posted.

In all cases, delays happens dealing with small businesses where the owners does everything, but also sometimes with big companies. With internet shopping people tend to think they will be delivered the next day. That is why I was talking about patience, and just for bikes I also had my share, for instance waiting 3 months for a new bike making me race a rented one and putting me out of a championship contention, 14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe, 3 months of wait for a special pipe, 3 months to receive some special kit and parts, 2 month wait for a gearbox failure while leading a championship and making me race a bike I sold before (and almost killing myself because I OTB hard and took the bike and peg due to different suspensions), etc etc and just for bikes ... Anyway we all know that to have one bike working we need at least 2 bikes as 1 is always in the shop.

Now back to the topic, the 5 months engine, it would be great if Dereck Harris would come here and tell us what happened.
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end of the link, you’re welcome.

First

Second
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I can’t believe my post got deleted for stating the obvious truth in what I thought was a reasonable manner? I realize this is a private...
I can’t believe my post got deleted for stating the obvious truth in what I thought was a reasonable manner? I realize this is a private forum and the mods can do whatever they want but this is ridiculous. The consistency of this forum is right up there with the rule makers of our sport. I’ve never been clipped before for anything but if this post seems to harsh feel free to ban me for life.
MPJC wrote:
I think that some posts were out of line, such as those who said he has a punchable face. There was a fair bit of piling...
I think that some posts were out of line, such as those who said he has a punchable face. There was a fair bit of piling on with stuff that wasn’t really relevant to the topic and was just plain mean spirited.
MPJC wrote:
Sorry, I was taking about he original thread and misread your post. My mistake.
No problem. I’m just lost lost on why my comment was deleted. I never called any names or threatened anyone. I just stated the obvious and said I thought it would be nice to have info on engine builders so people wouldn’t get burnt. The guy definitely needs to be called out on this.
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Question wrote:
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned. A 2nd (and 3rd) thread...
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned.

A 2nd (and 3rd) thread has been created then, which i didn't see, that was from what i understand now talking about an engine that had been sent 5 months ago. This is indeed too long, and from what I am reading the way it has been handled has not been great either. I hope it can be sorted out for this case and maybe others as it for sure tarnishes his reputation. It is unfortunate as to me he is probably the most knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to building a fast engine.

5 months is (way) too long we all agree on that, but patience is also something the first OP 1 year ago in the thread i mentioned did not have and here it was not justified to be mad, which is why I posted.

In all cases, delays happens dealing with small businesses where the owners does everything, but also sometimes with big companies. With internet shopping people tend to think they will be delivered the next day. That is why I was talking about patience, and just for bikes I also had my share, for instance waiting 3 months for a new bike making me race a rented one and putting me out of a championship contention, 14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe, 3 months of wait for a special pipe, 3 months to receive some special kit and parts, 2 month wait for a gearbox failure while leading a championship and making me race a bike I sold before (and almost killing myself because I OTB hard and took the bike and peg due to different suspensions), etc etc and just for bikes ... Anyway we all know that to have one bike working we need at least 2 bikes as 1 is always in the shop.

Now back to the topic, the 5 months engine, it would be great if Dereck Harris would come here and tell us what happened.
bh wrote:
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end...
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end of the link, you’re welcome.

First

Second
Thanks !

The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only read the page you sent, it is pretty shaddy indeed, and it is quite shaddy too that the threads cannot be accessed.

I also understand now why i didn't read, "Help" as a thread title is so telling (...), most people don't have time to open each thread and just select the topics they want to read.
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Question wrote:
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned. A 2nd (and 3rd) thread...
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned.

A 2nd (and 3rd) thread has been created then, which i didn't see, that was from what i understand now talking about an engine that had been sent 5 months ago. This is indeed too long, and from what I am reading the way it has been handled has not been great either. I hope it can be sorted out for this case and maybe others as it for sure tarnishes his reputation. It is unfortunate as to me he is probably the most knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to building a fast engine.

5 months is (way) too long we all agree on that, but patience is also something the first OP 1 year ago in the thread i mentioned did not have and here it was not justified to be mad, which is why I posted.

In all cases, delays happens dealing with small businesses where the owners does everything, but also sometimes with big companies. With internet shopping people tend to think they will be delivered the next day. That is why I was talking about patience, and just for bikes I also had my share, for instance waiting 3 months for a new bike making me race a rented one and putting me out of a championship contention, 14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe, 3 months of wait for a special pipe, 3 months to receive some special kit and parts, 2 month wait for a gearbox failure while leading a championship and making me race a bike I sold before (and almost killing myself because I OTB hard and took the bike and peg due to different suspensions), etc etc and just for bikes ... Anyway we all know that to have one bike working we need at least 2 bikes as 1 is always in the shop.

Now back to the topic, the 5 months engine, it would be great if Dereck Harris would come here and tell us what happened.
bh wrote:
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end...
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end of the link, you’re welcome.

First

Second
Question wrote:
Thanks ! The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only...
Thanks !

The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only read the page you sent, it is pretty shaddy indeed, and it is quite shaddy too that the threads cannot be accessed.

I also understand now why i didn't read, "Help" as a thread title is so telling (...), most people don't have time to open each thread and just select the topics they want to read.
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I have no comment but I do like beer!
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bh wrote:
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end...
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end of the link, you’re welcome.

First

Second
Question wrote:
Thanks ! The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only...
Thanks !

The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only read the page you sent, it is pretty shaddy indeed, and it is quite shaddy too that the threads cannot be accessed.

I also understand now why i didn't read, "Help" as a thread title is so telling (...), most people don't have time to open each thread and just select the topics they want to read.
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Just did.

"Interesting" story. A bit of a weird timing as the full bashing mode based on 1 engine issue comes like last year around the loretta lynns period (to recap, he was at loretta with no internet, it went 3 or 5 pages pretty hard, then he came back from Lorreta and it was sorted out in a couple posts). Here it looks different than last year, the email exchanges and the time frame were indeed not sounding good at all. S... happens but I would go get my engine asap to see what the problems are.

It would be great if Dereck could come to tell us what happened.
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BobPA wrote:
That is bullshit. I merely stated how my experience with Derek was less than stellar. No name calling, no bitching, even mentioned how the bike eventually...
That is bullshit. I merely stated how my experience with Derek was less than stellar. No name calling, no bitching, even mentioned how the bike eventually ran well. If you cannot take someone insulting your buddy, tell him to have better business practices. You are actually hurting Derek by throwing it all under the rug.

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bh wrote:
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end...
Here are the 2 links you need. First is for fist page only. Second is for 2-9, change page number with the page= at the end of the link, you’re welcome.

First

Second
Question wrote:
Thanks ! The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only...
Thanks !

The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only read the page you sent, it is pretty shaddy indeed, and it is quite shaddy too that the threads cannot be accessed.

I also understand now why i didn't read, "Help" as a thread title is so telling (...), most people don't have time to open each thread and just select the topics they want to read.
SEE ARE125 wrote:
My goodness, how did i miss this thread. What a nightmare!
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Question wrote:
Thanks ! The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only...
Thanks !

The first link is dead, but I accessed the second one via the mobile version (the desktop version is dead too). I can only read the page you sent, it is pretty shaddy indeed, and it is quite shaddy too that the threads cannot be accessed.

I also understand now why i didn't read, "Help" as a thread title is so telling (...), most people don't have time to open each thread and just select the topics they want to read.
SEE ARE125 wrote:
Motofinne wrote:
My goodness, how did i miss this thread. What a nightmare!
Yea this is one of the better ones here lately. Weirdest part its about a guy who posts here daily, but hasn’t responded or tried to defend himself.
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Question wrote:
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned. A 2nd (and 3rd) thread...
So we are not talking about the same thread, the 1st one was 1 year ago with the story i mentioned.

A 2nd (and 3rd) thread has been created then, which i didn't see, that was from what i understand now talking about an engine that had been sent 5 months ago. This is indeed too long, and from what I am reading the way it has been handled has not been great either. I hope it can be sorted out for this case and maybe others as it for sure tarnishes his reputation. It is unfortunate as to me he is probably the most knowledgeable on this forum when it comes to building a fast engine.

5 months is (way) too long we all agree on that, but patience is also something the first OP 1 year ago in the thread i mentioned did not have and here it was not justified to be mad, which is why I posted.

In all cases, delays happens dealing with small businesses where the owners does everything, but also sometimes with big companies. With internet shopping people tend to think they will be delivered the next day. That is why I was talking about patience, and just for bikes I also had my share, for instance waiting 3 months for a new bike making me race a rented one and putting me out of a championship contention, 14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe, 3 months of wait for a special pipe, 3 months to receive some special kit and parts, 2 month wait for a gearbox failure while leading a championship and making me race a bike I sold before (and almost killing myself because I OTB hard and took the bike and peg due to different suspensions), etc etc and just for bikes ... Anyway we all know that to have one bike working we need at least 2 bikes as 1 is always in the shop.

Now back to the topic, the 5 months engine, it would be great if Dereck Harris would come here and tell us what happened.
"In all cases, delays happens dealing with small businesses where the owners does everything, but also sometimes with big companies. With internet shopping people tend to think they will be delivered the next day. That is why I was talking about patience, and just for bikes I also had my share, for instance waiting 3 months for a new bike making me race a rented one and putting me out of a championship contention, 14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe, 3 months of wait for a special pipe, 3 months to receive some special kit and parts, 2 month wait for a gearbox failure while leading a championship and making me race a bike I sold before (and almost killing myself because I OTB hard and took the bike and peg due to different suspensions), etc etc and just for bikes ... Anyway we all know that to have one bike working we need at least 2 bikes as 1 is always in the shop."


BS.

Enough mechanics around who are working in the mx scene who are doing 15 engines a week for certain big companies and do that in 5 working days. Monday in friday morning shipped out out. So how would you say 5 months is ok? Waiting time? So you're talking BS.

14 months wait for just a welding job i had to visit or call every 2 months for which eventually they didn't do and lost a pipe,
Really? you're a racer and wait 14 months for a welding job?? You know one welder who can do a job?

3 months of wait for a special pipe
Now explain and let us see what kinda pipe that is, just curious about that.

3 months to receive some special kit and parts
Well what was that special kit, only made by one compagnie or person?

2 month wait for a gearbox failure
you're a racer and have only one gearbox?? How special is that gearbox. Gold with diamond finish? Explain?

Now back to the topic, the 5 months engine, it would be great if Dereck Harris would come here and tell us what happened.
HE FUCKED THIS ORDER UP with 5 months. Not only this order but someones ecu having from 2016. A cylinder fucked up from a person. So how many person that don't use the internet that are fucked by him? Or still waiting?

Glad my brother didn't pull the trigger to send him his engine, he could be fucked. If a american has to wait 5 months. How long does a European have to wait. If he get the parts back lol If you read his page you would think that is a great guy with knowing but when he starts to talk. Then you know he knows only his own truth not open for other things.

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7/21/2019 1:21pm Edited Date/Time 7/21/2019 1:23pm
At the end of the day, whether you know derek or not, 5 months is unacceptable.

Even with proper communication, 5 months is too long. First in, first out unless you have a policy for rush srrvice and even then you dont keep pushing other jobs back.

Anybody else would be pissed too..just not sure how many would have deleted the original thread. I wouldnt, until after I got my motor back.
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7/21/2019 1:36pm
Hey gang, want to make sure your post gets deleted? Accuse someone who posts a positive experience as being the person you're attacking.
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7/21/2019 2:52pm
GuyB wrote:
Hey gang, want to make sure your post gets deleted? Accuse someone who posts a positive experience as being the person you're attacking.
I did none of that in my post. Again, why delete it?
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7/21/2019 2:55pm
BobPA wrote:
I did none of that in my post. Again, why delete it?
Were you quoting someone else? I may have deleted someone else's post, which flushed yours. Choose who you quote carefully. Wink
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Something smells funny about this whole situation.
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