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I tried to take the survey, but I am disqualified for working in the motorcycle industry.
I also wonder who this is, but I'd be very surprised if it's a Japanese manufacturer. Their information gathering tends to be very closed-circle in nature.
I’d guess Kove or something.
They said a “major” oem, I’m not sure what other people consider a major OEM, but I consider the KTM group (KTM, Husqvarna and Gas Gas), Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, Ducati and Triumph major OEM’s. I guess Beta too, but any other OEM’s I don’t really consider. Like Kove, Sherco etc..
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They're after something real specific in the survey. If you ride something not in the list you're disqualified. If you work in the the industry you're disqualified.
Yea I selected ‘other bike’ because no 350 was listed and was told there are too many of my bike type already entered.
Did anyone make it through the survey?
Bunch of hypothetical bikes with different combinations from these categories and prices, which one would you choose.
Design by committee never ends well.
This starts a good conversation. What does "Major" mean in terms of manufacturers? Are they speaking in terms of units produced, market share, historical significance, or moto relevance?
I'd mostly agree with you about the brands you listed, but I'd also include BMW, Harley-Davidson, Polaris and Can-Am. Unlikely those brands would be making an MX bike, but you never know.
Also, never underestimate a brand's own feelings of importance or aspirations to grandeur. They say perception is reality! If I worked for Kove as a brand manager, you could bet your bottom dollar I'd be referring to my company as a "Major OEM."
Kove isn’t getting much recognition in mx arena but it looks like people are enjoying the rally bike.
I think we can assume it’s not KTM Bajaj as they don’t list a 350.
Watch Suzuki come out with a RMZ350, electric start, A-kit suspension, etc and the people that told them they wanted it will be nowhere to be found because it’s not $6500 😂
Consumers are their own worst enemy ,they all convince themselves they need an updated model every 2 or 3 years then complain about the price it takes to have a new model every 2 to 3 uears.
I've done a survey for Honda back in the past, was a basically a test/feeler for what was eventually released as the CRF/RX line. This sure seems a lot more scattershot than what a Japanese OEM would do.
I was DQ'd because I also clicked on other (using my phone). May try from a different ISP on my laptop later and pick something else to see if I can get all the way through.
Already closed to new submissions
I think it's safer to assume it's not a Japanese OEM because (to quote 280driver) design by committee is a decidedly un-Japanese approach. I could be wrong, but after 30 years of living here, I've don't recall ever seeing a Japanese company ask, "what do you think we should do?"
Want bike development?? Allow works bikes again... even if for just a couple years...
Yamaha did a similar survey years ago with UTV action mag being the website that helped get the info out.
Back then they were paying 50 or 100 if You qualified to take it. It was when they were working on the Yamaha R-max SXS. I didn't qualify at the time because I didn't own one of the brands/models they were competing against .
I did a search to try and find more about the Yamaha survey from years ago and this came up
UTV Action Magazine has facilitated reader feedback for Yamaha SxS development, including a specific 2022 survey aimed at gathering input on riding habits, preferred content, and feature requests for Yamaha sport UTVs.
I picked a yz450 as the bike I owned just to pick something common and it let me take the entire survey. you might be onto something.
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I would add Ducati and Triumph in that list.
Probably ZXMOTO lmao
Is that the Bike JGR made many years ago?
CFMoto maybe? Article is from July 25
"A patent that has now emerged with the inconspicuous title “Motorcycle” provides new clarity. The technical drawings and description leave little room for doubt: this is CFMoto’s upcoming electric motocross bike, the CF-X."
https://www.motorcycles.news/en/cfmoto-cf-x-elektro-dirtbike/
btw its crazy how fast CFMoto is growing here in germany. These are new registrations in february compared to last year february (for the street obv but still)
That’s probably the best guess right now. Obviously a computer generated image in the first post but it does not appear to be an ICE from what we can see.
There are different survey designs that enable different types of analysis and type of findings on the back end. This appears to be a survey to feed a conjoint type analysis. Consumers are shown/select different product features at various price points and the final analysis across all results shows what consumers in aggregate are willing to trade for price.
Impressive indeed. Are there no Ducatis in Germany? Surprised to see it would sell less than Aprilia or Voge.
Says survey does not need more input at this time for me.
CF Moto ebike.
I'm sure that will make bikes and racing more affordable and accessible to everyone
I’m sure MXA just made a prompt like “dirtbike getting uncovered” for the post and that image has zero relation to anything.
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