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Yeah, I was confused and I guess my question/post was confusing too! I could not tell if the point was that he was skipping all of 250 supercross in 2027 and just riding the SMX next rounds leading up to outdoors, or just doing an SMX next race prior to starting the 2027 SX east season in Tampa at round 5 (there is only one SMX next race before the 250 East season starts). Seems like some people in this thread think this means he is skipping all of 2027 pro SX, other posters think it means he is just getting a tune up race prior to Tampa in February (if any of this is even true to begin with).
This reeks of a Feld driven decision to drum up interest in the expanded SMX Next program.
Where is any of this information actually posted by a credible source?
I get that the powers that be are trying to grow the sport from the amateurs up but to me the system has been broken for decades. I feel if you race at the amateur level once you race even one pro level race of SX 250 or 450 and the same for MX you can't go back and race any amateur events. Either your good enough for the pros or you not. You need to be sure that when you make that jump your ready. No going back and forth.
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There’s nothing like race experience, but they’ve been getting their feet wet in SX for quite some time now contrary to what some may think. Just to put it out there.
Agreed.
Sacha to race Loretta then turn pro..
Ha ha ha ha fucking sandbagger!
If he doesn’t win, that’ll be a bigger disappointment than Big Air Tom
The top 10 SMX guys are already riding at the best facilities and best tracks and most or all already have development rides or paid rides, so it is not that far fetched.
Oh man thats cold...
He’s going to do what Haiden Deegan did.
Have the top 10 SMX guys raced at the professional level for four years winning multiple races against the best 250 riders in the world including in the MX2 class and the 250 outdoor nationals?
I get your point, but at the same time I don’t.
Sacha is one of the best 250 riders in the world without question and to think he won’t adapt far quicker than a 15 year old B rider, with similar resources as you suggest, is just nuts. They don’t belong in the same class regardless of whether it’s moto or supercross.
I agree. The age moving to 18 will probably help that issue. But it is weird. I remember watching Kayden Minear running TOP 10 in his first national and they were like “he’s just doing the 2 races to get his feet wet then he will be back for SMX all stars” I’m like damn… those SMX next kids probably didn’t enjoy seeing him run pace with the pros! The sport is in an interesting place. You never know these days what someone’s career will look like.. it could be a Forkner, Reynolds, AC… or the guys that can go past 30 like Tomac, Anderson, Webb, Barcia, etc.
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3:15 minute mark
Those tracks look a lot nicer than the one Kenny grew up riding at his house in Germany, and he seems to have done ok at Supercross.
My response was only to this portion of the previous message "He has access to the best SX tracks, trainers and coaches." and I was simply trying to convey that the top Am prospects have that same access to facilities, teams, trainers, etc. Baumer, Danger Boy and Cole Davis all were training at the various factory facilities when they won SMX.
Having said that, I agree that his speed and ability is already more then proven - but then so is also the history of European riders coming over here and getting hurt when they try to ride Supercross for a few seasons and ultimately not living up to potential...
It's beyond odd. Weird, weird move if true.
Sacha Coenen is a more talented dirt bike rider than pretty much 98% of the 250 field. The remaining 2% is Davies and maybe a couple of other riders that are in the same bracket. He will figure out SX. And even if he would struggle in the beginning, him struggling would most likely result in 10-15th place finishes.
List of non-American riders who have won either a 250SX or 450SX championship:
JMB
Mickael Pichon
Stephane Roncada
Grant Langston
Chad Reed
Ben Townley
Christophe Pourcel
Ken Roczen
Marvin Musquin
Dylan Ferrandis
Jett Lawrence
Hunter Lawrence
Tom Vialle
Cole Davies
List of ex-GP/Euro riders who have won either a 250MX or 450MX championship:
JMB
Greg Albertyn
Grant Langston
Chad Reed
Ken Roczen
Dylan Ferrandis
Jett Lawrence
Hunter Lawrence
Cole Davies
This notion that Euro/non-American riders come to the US and fail at supercross is just a myth.
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Anyone who watched the SMX Next class at AusX last weekend, knows there’s already about ten Sachas in the class. It was wild.
But in all seriousness, if the rules allow it, and Sacha only intends to use it as a means to get a gate drop or two before East, then all power to him.
Um, I never said non-American riders couldn’t win at Supercross. Of course they can and have done so. My point was that a number of highly talented overseas riders came here and had their progress—and ultimately their results, limited by injuries during the transition.
Albertyn is a pretty clear example. Three world titles coming in, then dislocated shoulders at the SX opener in both ’95 and ’96 and a brutal run of injuries. Eventually winning the ’99 outdoor title doesn’t erase how rough that transition was.
Searle, Tonus, Townley and Metcalfe also come to mind, although their circumstances differed somewhat. Townley winning a regional SX title doesn’t mean injuries didn’t prevent him from achieving considerably more afterward...
Your list shows the success stories. It doesn’t disprove the injury-disrupted careers. Those two things can both be true.
In order to support your theory you need to also show American riders whose careers have been curtailed by SX injuries, and that their percentage of disrupted careers is considerable better than non-Americans.
This. Without having actually done calculations in Excel i would assume the successrate is pretty high with the imported ex-GP riders.
And looking at some of those names, guys like Searle and Townley were injury prone riders no matter where or what they raced. Just like many, many US based riders through the history.
So none of the SMX riders have anything to do in the SX series, got it 🤦
On one hand US riders complain about running SX half season because it's not the same sport, when MXGP riders beats them. Now suddenly, it doesn't matter that you have racers that's been on SX since 85cc and been riding years at facilities. Top MX riders should be able to beat them after 3 months of SX 😂
Seems kinda chicken shit to me. With all the hype over these guys (and professional race wins in the US and Europe), I don’t think it is cool that they’re going to come over and pick on a bunch of amateurs. As I recall, Kenny and the Huntah Bros had the balls to go straight into the pros. I’d say it worked out ok for them.
So we're taking a podcaster "hearing rumblings" as facts these days?
I'm a B class harescramble racer (yeah I suck) but if I was to race motocross I would be expected to race B and not C same as an A moto guy would be racing A in GNCC or hard enduro or whatever. Sacha is sandbagging no ifs ands or buts.
Agreed. First thing that came to my mind seeing Sacha in the feeder class:
And how did that work out for Prado?? He was all over the place and ended up hurt.
I don't get it either, he has 3 months to prepare if he goes east, and if he's really not ready why not sit it out and practice until outdoors, or maybe just do Daytona. Racing with amateurs is such a bad look.
I agree with this, with on caveat - the evolution of the sport of SX has made it more competitive than ever before, so I'd argue that it's probably more difficult than it was years ago. That won't prevent the Coenen brothers from rising to the top given their obvious talent (although I, along with Roger, worry about Sasha being a little to throttle happy).
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