Damn coop!

BuddyCantCatchGO4T wrote:

All for it on the track (rink, court, field, etc.) same as I replied to someone else earlier. When you participate in a sport you consent...

All for it on the track (rink, court, field, etc.) same as I replied to someone else earlier. When you participate in a sport you consent to physical contact while competing that may even go beyond the normally accepted amount, and as you mentioned, extra physical contact can be expected to enforce etiquette or unwritten rules of the sport as it’s used to deter purposely seriously injuring others competitors.

BuddyCantCatchGO4T wrote:

All for it on the track (rink, court, field, etc.) same as I replied to someone else earlier. When you participate in a sport you consent...

All for it on the track (rink, court, field, etc.) same as I replied to someone else earlier. When you participate in a sport you consent to physical contact while competing that may even go beyond the normally accepted amount, and as you mentioned, extra physical contact can be expected to enforce etiquette or unwritten rules of the sport as it’s used to deter purposely seriously injuring others competitors.

Not hillbilly wrote:

So… Jason Lawrence consented to taking RV’s front wheel to the face way back when?

Not hillbilly wrote:

So… Jason Lawrence consented to taking RV’s front wheel to the face way back when?

Logan114 wrote:

I truthfully don't think Webb will have anything for Deegan this weekend given the track is very outdoors oriented and that will just feed Haiden's ego...

I truthfully don't think Webb will have anything for Deegan this weekend given the track is very outdoors oriented and that will just feed Haiden's ego more, but Coop will remember this when A1 comes around and I am ready for it 😎

truck wrote:

Well if you're wondering where webb is at with things two days later, ended the video with the entire podium interview and no further comment. 

Well if you're wondering where webb is at with things two days later, ended the video with the entire podium interview and no further comment. 

MOTO13 wrote:

I'd probably hate Deegan too if I were a veteran of the 450 class and never won a race. Along comes this loud mouthed kid...muliple 250...

I'd probably hate Deegan too if I were a veteran of the 450 class and never won a race. Along comes this loud mouthed kid...muliple 250 championships and wins on a 450. Deegan may talk shit, but he backs it up. He's there to race. Now, if he'll run his team mate hard, what message does that send to every other rider out there? He there not just to race, but to friggin win...period. He fills seats and the AMA and Feld know it. 

MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

Brent wrote:

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as...

...from a legal standpoint, YMUS and Star would be exposing themselves to liability by denying a contracted team rider the equipment to fulfill his contract, as Webb stands to lose a significant amount of purse money if they don't provide a motorcycle and support at the final round.  

 I believe that team conduct in the pits is governed by AMA pro racing, and so far not a word from them as of today  (Monday).

IMO Mr. Regan is a veteran businessman -  he and Yamaha would not do something that foolish...

APLMAN99 wrote:

Or, and hear me out here, would they have MORE legal exposure if they decided to allow him to race and he followed through in his...

Or, and hear me out here, would they have MORE legal exposure if they decided to allow him to race and he followed through in his inference (to put it charitably) and took out Deegan, perhaps costing Deegan up to 7 figures?  If that were to happen, it would be pretty difficult to argue that they had no idea what Webb's intentions were, no?

jemcee wrote:

I'd say that could only happen if Webb was a lap down and took him out.. Otherwise couldn't Webb just say he was trying to get...

I'd say that could only happen if Webb was a lap down and took him out.. Otherwise couldn't Webb just say he was trying to get his own 7 figures? Considering Deegan made it clear he would knock Webb down to further his chances.. (making his own intentions clear)

I'm not a law talking guy but my lawyer mate always says I could be haha

DonM wrote:

I'm not picking sides in this fight but weren't the majority of you guys on here last week proclaiming Blair as Kooksey II....and I'm not saying...

I'm not picking sides in this fight but weren't the majority of you guys on here last week proclaiming Blair as Kooksey II....and I'm not saying this is you but I can guarantee that many who lambasted Blair last week will now proclaim him as the voice of truth...🤷‍♂️

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

What now? This is the 1st time I recall anyone even mentioning Blair, negative or positive. 

Not sure what you're on about. 

DonM wrote:

Here you go….3 pager

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/moto-related/daniel-blair-new-cooksey

MOTO13 wrote:

I'd probably hate Deegan too if I were a veteran of the 450 class and never won a race. Along comes this loud mouthed kid...muliple 250...

I'd probably hate Deegan too if I were a veteran of the 450 class and never won a race. Along comes this loud mouthed kid...muliple 250 championships and wins on a 450. Deegan may talk shit, but he backs it up. He's there to race. Now, if he'll run his team mate hard, what message does that send to every other rider out there? He there not just to race, but to friggin win...period. He fills seats and the AMA and Feld know it. 

Chris_Buehler wrote:

Won a single mud race on a 450, relax. Wins on a 450 lol. Cool hes officially the new AP, king of the mud races

kpiper wrote:

Webb has to be mad at himself for falling down from that little love tap Deegan gave him. Almost seems like all this drama is contrived. 

truck wrote:

Well if you're wondering where webb is at with things two days later, ended the video with the entire podium interview and no further comment. 

Well if you're wondering where webb is at with things two days later, ended the video with the entire podium interview and no further comment. 

gt80rider wrote:

Ya... serious click bait title... I won't be wasting my time on any more of his vids... comment section filled with bed bugs too... lmaooo

kpiper wrote:

Webb has to be mad at himself for falling down from that little love tap Deegan gave him. Almost seems like all this drama is contrived. 

wreckitrandy wrote:

I wondered the same thing. Let's put on our tin foil Hershey hats. The SMX series is apparently quite unpopular with some of the faster guys...

I wondered the same thing. Let's put on our tin foil Hershey hats. The SMX series is apparently quite unpopular with some of the faster guys. Specifically, RedBull guys. The spectator attendance looks a bit thin. Not sure about the viewership numbers. What should Monster do? The whole season, short of Davies, is a bust. You do what you're good at.... Manufacture drama. NOBODY is talking about Prado leading the points. This soap opera is headed towards 20 pages before daylight. Predictions? How long has all this been in the works? Could this have anything to do with Deegz' mechanic cuttin' bait? Where did the popcorn come from??? Does Sexton turn his tin foil hat around backwards? 

peanutt wrote:

At Team Honda Roger did not let JMB race the last 125 National. If I remember correctly JMB and The Kid had issues.Mike Kiedrowski raced and...

At Team Honda Roger did not let JMB race the last 125 National. If I remember correctly JMB and The Kid had issues.

Mike Kiedrowski raced and won the championship. 1989 or 1991?

mxnick wrote:

Negative. MX Kied lost the championship to Cooper.  JMB refused to play team tactics so he got benched. 

TAUTOG wrote:

If star benches Coop he'll be on a Husky next Saturday 

MOTO13 wrote:

No he won't be on a Husky. He's under a Yamaha contract. If Star says he's not riding...he's not riding period. 

wreckitrandy wrote:

Unless he shows up on a privately owned Yamaha like Rick Johnson, I think it was, did one time. It would be epic! 

kpiper wrote:

Webb has to be mad at himself for falling down from that little love tap Deegan gave him. Almost seems like all this drama is contrived. 

wreckitrandy wrote:

I wondered the same thing. Let's put on our tin foil Hershey hats. The SMX series is apparently quite unpopular with some of the faster guys...

I wondered the same thing. Let's put on our tin foil Hershey hats. The SMX series is apparently quite unpopular with some of the faster guys. Specifically, RedBull guys. The spectator attendance looks a bit thin. Not sure about the viewership numbers. What should Monster do? The whole season, short of Davies, is a bust. You do what you're good at.... Manufacture drama. NOBODY is talking about Prado leading the points. This soap opera is headed towards 20 pages before daylight. Predictions? How long has all this been in the works? Could this have anything to do with Deegz' mechanic cuttin' bait? Where did the popcorn come from??? Does Sexton turn his tin foil hat around backwards? 

brocster wrote:

Pretty sure if James says I need popcorn stat, he gets popcorn stat. 

wreckitrandy wrote:

I wondered the same thing. Let's put on our tin foil Hershey hats. The SMX series is apparently quite unpopular with some of the faster guys...

I wondered the same thing. Let's put on our tin foil Hershey hats. The SMX series is apparently quite unpopular with some of the faster guys. Specifically, RedBull guys. The spectator attendance looks a bit thin. Not sure about the viewership numbers. What should Monster do? The whole season, short of Davies, is a bust. You do what you're good at.... Manufacture drama. NOBODY is talking about Prado leading the points. This soap opera is headed towards 20 pages before daylight. Predictions? How long has all this been in the works? Could this have anything to do with Deegz' mechanic cuttin' bait? Where did the popcorn come from??? Does Sexton turn his tin foil hat around backwards? 

brocster wrote:

Pretty sure if James says I need popcorn stat, he gets popcorn stat. 

jemcee wrote:

Well that kinda did happen, didn't he mention something about appreciating the person who brought him popcorn halfway through the second race?

Ozy wrote:

Webb's best case scenario in moto 2 was 3rd place. 5th in moto 1 and 3rd moto 2 = 8 points.Kenny and DNGR would have still...

Webb's best case scenario in moto 2 was 3rd place. 5th in moto 1 and 3rd moto 2 = 8 points.

Kenny and DNGR would have still finished ahead of him overall . . .  so what was he thinking to get so upset? his tip over in the turn changed nothing with regard to the overall

bosswool2800 wrote:

I wonder if I could just go to work and punch someone I don’t like? What would happen to me?

bosswool2800 wrote:

I wonder if I could just go to work and punch someone I don’t like? What would happen to me?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I guess it depends on your field of work, your boss, and the situation. 

bosswool2800 wrote:

I wonder if I could just go to work and punch someone I don’t like? What would happen to me?

bosswool2800 wrote:

I wonder if I could just go to work and punch someone I don’t like? What would happen to me?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

I guess it depends on your field of work, your boss, and the situation. 

Ozy wrote:

Webb's best case scenario in moto 2 was 3rd place. 5th in moto 1 and 3rd moto 2 = 8 points.Kenny and DNGR would have still...

Webb's best case scenario in moto 2 was 3rd place. 5th in moto 1 and 3rd moto 2 = 8 points.

Kenny and DNGR would have still finished ahead of him overall . . .  so what was he thinking to get so upset? his tip over in the turn changed nothing with regard to the overall

mx519cali wrote:

I’m blown away how the danger fanbase thinks the pass is the only think coop is pissed about. It’s clear as day coop is just tired...

I’m blown away how the danger fanbase thinks the pass is the only think coop is pissed about. It’s clear as day coop is just tired of the bullshit with the kid. 

tbirdmx733 wrote:

In my opinion (I’m not an insider so I don’t have all the facts) Webbs blowup wasn’t so much about the situation itself but reactionary to...

In my opinion (I’m not an insider so I don’t have all the facts) Webbs blowup wasn’t so much about the situation itself but reactionary to something that has probably been brewing internally for a while now.

The takeout in my opinion was never meant to be a takeout, he meant to make contact for sure but I don’t think he was going into it trying to put Webb down. Webb always cuts low in bowl corners. If we don’t remember… Webb failed pretty horrendously trying to take out Prado this season. I think he has a hard time staying upright when making contact for whatever reason. Deegan was panicked, he fell, got knicked and in a moment of redlining, lashed out.

Both Deegan and Webb are not unfamiliar with making contact with teammates (Webb on Musquin Houston a few instances with J-mart in the star years) (Deegan on Smith Detroit 2023, SLC 2024, Davies Denver 2025) Some people have pointed to the particular situation between Musquin and Cooper as a “gotcha!” moment but I personally feel circumstantially there’s a few key differences. Webb had the red plate, he and Musquin weren’t buddy buddy off the track, it was a longer series and most importantly he didn’t put Musquin all the way to the ground. But, I do think you can’t not argue that Webb in his younger years is very similar to how Deegan operates as a competitor currently. In fact, he probably took a few pages from Webbs book “you have no idea what’s about to come” “you motherf*ckers ready for a battle?” See the similarities?

What I truly believe to be behind all of this is Haidens “lack of respect” off the track. Haiden seems to be the kinda guy where when he has the ammo, he shoots. And he doesn’t care where he points the guns. Over the past few years we’ve seen smart ass clapbacks, belittling, deep personal attacks on other riders. Wheather it be calling out Levi for fading in practice, calling out Jcoop for his chick taking a picture with Milki Mase, the stuff about Jetts girlfriend Dylan and his bald spot? It seems to be a “because I’m better than you I’m allowed to say whatever I want about you” type of mentality. That’s bound to piss anyone off. And we’ve heard scufflings of arguments/fights at the goat farm with Anstie and Smith for what I believe to be centric around Haidens attitude. And I’m more than sure Haiden says similar things to many other riders and has probably said a few smug things to Webb along the way. 

I haven’t listened to Mathes review show yet but I’m sure he has far more details on what happened inside the rig than I could theorize. I do not in any way think this will calm Haiden down, he’ll probably continue down his path until he’s retired. But I’m sure him and Webb with squash it before next weekend.